Claudio Fannieri

Sorry pal but how is being 2-0 up to draw 2-2 and literally giving up any attacking intent for the final 20 minutes or so not rolling over. just because he is a new manager to the club doesn’t and shouldn’t give him a free hit, Rodgers was absolutely hammered first game of the season against Brentford when at 2-0 up he took off KDH and surrendered control and we drew. Cooper did similar yesterday made negative subs and we were fortunate it didn’t cost us more than the 2 points we lost. A manager is paid large sums of money to take the credit or criticism for results and performances, which are the consequence of their decisions and actions. Too many times already and in every game so far he has either through negative team selections, tactics or substitutions and in game management handed the initiative to the opposition, which has ultimately cost points. Some may be happy to allow him a honeymoon period where he is almost given a free hit but I am not. Leaving out Ricardo is ridiculous in my opinion but could be a decision that is justifiable as he is new to the club and basing selection on what he is seeing, however piss poor negative tactics, team selections and substitutions are directly in his gift, this isn’t down to being new to a club, this is the impact of a manager who is out of his depth and his record in the premier league somewhat backs that up. I didn’t want him in the 1st place not because of his Forest connections, but because at this level I don’t think he is a very good manager, he is a younger Steve Bruce, limited and probably more suited to Championship/league one level. Had we appointed Bruce there would have been absolute uproar and yet his premier league record probably stands up more than our current incumbent. It was a shocking appointment and I have seen nothing to suggest he has it in his locker to suddenly turn his principles on its head, since becoming a premier league manager his style is to try and contain and despite a year or so out of the game nothing appears to have changed. He is delivering everything I initially feared with his appointment. I hoped he would prove me wrong, but pre-season which the last 3 games were a fecking shambles and his set up to date has just confirmed what I initially feared.

He clearly has decided he wants to play with the left back pushing on and the right back acting more defensive. It would be pretty easy to flip this and bring Ricardo in at right back and have the left back tucking in, he could then use JJ or VK in that role. It is utterly criminal that Ricardo is not being given game time. It is stubbornness beyond belief, if we had 6 points or me than fair enough but we don’t, we are on 2 and it isn’t working.

Sorry but Enzo did get this challenge and criticism pretty much from the off, lots of fans even when we winning were complaining it was boring and as soon as we dropped points were challenging if his style was sustainable etc etc In what way has Cooper turned round our soft underbelly……… We have drawn 2 and lost 2 we are conceding chances at an alarming rate and at what stage is being 2-0 up to draw 2-2 not a soft underbelly and poor tactical decisions/in game management. I completely understand why people want to give him more time but that doesn’t mean he should be blindly defended. So far he is making a number of mistakes and poor calls either in his selections or in game management and this should be discussed, challenged and dissected. This has nothing to do with Forest connections as with Enzo, Rodgers, Puel and every other manager, this is about how their tactics, selections and in game management affect games and results.

Make no mistake his negative selections and substitutions do nothing but blunt any attacking outlet and ambition, and does nothing but give the opposition the initiative and invites pressure. We are conceding possession, territorial advantage and a high number of chances which is leading to us conceding pretty much 2 goals a game, and with a manager who doesn’t have the desire to let the handbrake off, so how do we see where the wins are coming from, because we aren’t scoring 3 in many games under Cooper. If you are going to be ultra negative and cautious you have to be keeping clean sheets or at least down to one, you then have a chance. We are not, in all our games so far except Tranmere we have been fortunate not to concede more than we have. This is what is concerning me, he isn’t capable of setting us up to be tight and well drilled defensively however he is selecting a team or making changes that stifles our attacking intent but does little to stop us being dominated and conceding chances. Its a tactical mess in my opinion.

Couldn’t agree more, great post, last season Enzo was vilified for what was perceived to be quite a negative and boring style, was also criticised for in game management and subs particularly when we seemed to revert to we have what we hold, Rodgers was rightly criticised for doing similar, Puel was constantly challenged for making negative team selections, leaving out some of our better attacking talent and playing with the handbrake on even against average opponents. Here we are with Cooper after 10 games including pre season, where we are seeing a mix of all of the above, there are some massive red flags for me and given we have played a mix of opponents there is little to suggest this will change. Yesterday could have been a turning point, i honestly believe had he made more positive changes that maintained a semblance of an attacking threat we would have held on and probably killed the game off by scoring a 3rd and maybe even a 4th. He didn’t, he surrendered territory and gave Palace a free hit for 20 minutes to throw the kitchen sink at us, conceding was inevitable, we were lucky we got out of there with a point. why I am convinced he is the wrong appointment and so far out of his depth, is quite simple, his negative selections have led to us conceding and then chasing games which Spurs aside have been unable to rescue and then when we do go ahead like yesterday he then goes ultra negative and we can’t hold out. So on that basis what does he offer, quite simply I don’t think he has the tactical nous to win football matches at this level. His record of 19 ……that is 19 Premier League games without a win is evidence enough. It was a poor appointment and regardless whether some think it’s too early, the writing is on the wall, I really can’t see him being capable of pulling together a run of 4 or 5 wins on the bounce. We may win the odd game but all I can see is most weeks is frustrating defeats and draining draws like yesterday. Get him gone, before it’s too late, if we give him 10-15 games by then we could be cut adrift in the bottom 3 and make no mistake if we go down, the EFL will hit us big time, we have to stay up, so let’s shake hands part ways and look to bring in someone who can get a tune out of a squad that has a very good mix of attacking talent and options.

Great post, this is a more than capable squad of finishing anywhere from 11th downwards, depending on how it’s managed, my concern is with Cooper at the helm we will end up 19th with a mountain of regrets of what might/could have been.

Thank you so much pal 😊

He made negative changes, the only one which was like for like was Abdul for Stephy the other two removed virtually any attacking intent and basically said we will try and soak it up and cling on, and we shit the bed. It isn’t unhinged to question a manager who is continually making bizarre team selections, substitutions and tactical errors. 3 of arguably our most talented players left on the bench for the entirety of the game. It was an underwhelming appointment in my opinion and so far overall his performance also in my opinion has been underwhelming and his decision making utterly utterly baffling. Palace are a decent side but that is it, they are beatable and with more attacking intent and ambition we could have gone on and scored 3 or 4 by capitalising on the spaces they would have left chasing an equaliser. We literally gave them nothing to worry about and enable them to get at us with very little risk of being hit on the break.

Absolute horrific mentality, such poor negative substitutions and all he wanted to do was try and cling on. Am i shocked or surprised, no, he has cost us big time today with negative changes, whereas our lack of ambition in the first half of our earlier games cost us opportunities. He is incapable of setting up a team to play positive front foot football for a sustained period.

If Ayew is does come off will be interesting to see who comes on, would be good to see a positive change

I can see us losing 3-2 that is a very negative sub with Ndidi being replaced with Hamza if Palace get an equaliser we will struggle to get any momentum back.

Long way to go, but if he can get a positive result today then it goes some way to showing he has the potential to eke out results.

😂😂😂 Cooper making some of us look absolute helmets.

Long way to go but Cooper is making me looking like a right negative moaning ar53hole and I will happy to eat lashings of humble pie if we pick up good results and wins 😂

I took one look at this team selection and had to go to the bog for a momentous 💩 so whilst it’s an utterly underwhelming and negative selection, I can at least enjoy the opportunity of an absolute thunderbastard of a plop and feeling a good pound or two lighter. Mr Cooper you are an horrendous football manager but a magician when it comes to weight loss initiatives 😂

No not really, still negative as hell and too me just looks like excuses all in Matchday squad so have to be deemed fit enough for selection. He could still have been more positive and selecting Abdul. He is so negative, he has selected the absolute bare minimum in terms of attacking players and two of the 3 are over 30, we have next to no creativity in this team.

None of Ricardo, Facundo, Bilal or Abdul in the starting line up, make no mistake he is not helping himself in the slightest, this is a winnable game and to set up so negatively is absolutely criminal. This is all the hallmarks of Puel, poor team selections, concede the game in the first half then make the subs to correct the mistake and see a half arsed attempt to save the result in the 2nd half, which masks what is rank bad management and a man so far out of his depth tactically. His brand of negative fearful football is already stinking the gaff out, it isn’t grinding out results, it’s tedious and frustrating as we are letting opportunities to win points slip our grasp by showing teams way too much respect. This is pure damage limitation, he knows this wasn’t a universally popular appointment and it seems he is setting us up to try and avoid a hammering, he knows if we lose a couple convincingly he will be under severe pressure. Lose by the odd goal but barely a whimper of an attack and he will probably get away with it for a few more games. Honking mentality.

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It does make me wonder if many at the club are regretting the decision after seeing him at work and this has been ‘leaked’ by someone to start to sow the seeds of justifying a very early parting of the ways. I have no doubt that the fact we no longer have the threat of the points deduction looming over us will make us a more attractive proposition, it has always felt that Cooper was a bit of a panic/short term cheap appointment and I do wonder if this is paving the way for us to move forward with a more progressive and ambitious coach.

Wow this is pretty damning and it would appear the writing is on the wall even at this early stage, interesting it has been leaked seems very similar to Ranieri’s last days and also Puel where players were clearly not happy with the methods, tactics and man management. it’s going to be interesting to see how this plays out, just hope the club act quickly and decisively if required as we can ill afford to sit back and do nothing until it’s too late

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