Chown

The fans who want Cifientes out will be the same people that insisted Van Nistelrooy was an upgrade on Cooper. Cifientes isn’t perfect but changing the manager yet again is ridiculous and there’s no-one better out there who would join us anyway.

Unlucky haters

The classic ‘you can only compare the games against the same teams’ nonsense . Which obviously avoids the weeks and weeks of no goals and terrible records set by RvN that will never be broken. RvN managed against Newcastle twice. 7-0 aggregate defeat. RvN managed against Wolves twice. 6-0 aggregate defeat. Brentford at home 4-0 defeat. Cooper lost one league game in 12 by a 3-0 score line and we scored in every single other league game under him. By your logic, Plymouth had a better season than Liverpool. You can’t compare any of their results as they played against different teams. But Plymouth beat Liverpool in the cup so they must be better. Nonsense.

Ruud gifted Wolves six of those points. We were far from relegated when he took over.

The club has been poorly run recently. I agree with everyone on that. However, on the communication piece what is everybody expecting them to do? Release a post on X saying: LCFC can confirm that Ruud Van Nistlerooy will be sacked on the 1st July. We can’t do it before because that will put us at risk of breaching PSR again. It is a sad state of affairs that financial mismanagement has put us in this place, but surely on the communication piece they have to stay quiet in this one?

‘There’s a great argument to say he’s up there with Taylor as the worst we’ve ever had’. The only manager in our 141 year history to win the FA Cup. Only manager in our history to achieve back-to-back European campaigns. It really is quite depressing that some fans have this mindset.

How can anybody say the only manager to win the FA cup in the club’s entire history was not a good appointment?

Yes - But he won’t be as shit as the worst manager in the club’s history. A traffic cone would be an upgrade on RvN so, even if Martin is shit, he will still be a significant improvement.

Wow - That’s ten posts in ten minutes slagging off a manager who hasn’t been appointed yet. Are you Ruud Van Nistlerooy?

The classic ‘you can only compare the games against the same teams’ nonsense . Which obviously avoids the weeks and weeks of no goals and terrible records set by RvN that will never be broken. RvN managed against Newcastle twice. 7-0 aggregate defeat. RvN managed against Wolves twice. 6-0 aggregate defeat. Brentford at home 4-0 defeat. Cooper lost one league game in 12 by a 3-0 score line and we scored in every single other league game under him. By your logic, Plymouth had a better season than Liverpool. You can’t compare any of their results as they played against different teams. But Plymouth beat Liverpool in the cup so they must be better. Nonsense. They is no revisionism. Just stats like points per game, goals scored, goals against etc.

Taylor and RvN are definitely the worst two. RvN’s statistics will never been beaten, they are that awful, but granted Taylor inherited a successful team that had just finished eighth and was given a lot of cash. I agree that any manager would struggle with this lot, but Cooper (who a lot of people on here think was useless) far outperformed RvN in every stat going with the same squad of players, so the evidence is there that this season didn’t have to be so dreadful and the embarrassing records could have been avoided if we’d had anyone but Ruud (and Vardy would have comfortably hit 200 goals).

12 points in 23 games. Awful. And to those that keep quoting luck, you won’t see a luckier four points than the ones RvN got in his first two games. If you discount those first two games before he was able to fully implement his awful selection/tactics then it’s 8 points in the last 21 games. Worst manager in our history.

I love this logic which I’ve seen a few times on here when fans try to argue that Ruud isn’t that much worse than Cooper. It means Plymouth had a better season than Liverpool. You can’t compare their results throughout the season as they were against different teams, but when they played each other in the cup, Plymouth won.

Wow - Nine consecutive home defeats without a goal, a dreadful record that will never be broken by any team, and then as soon as we score against the team bottom of the league the ‘he’s better than Cooper brigade’ are back out.

Ruud Van Nistlerooy by a clear margin.

Greatest Leicester player of all time. I haven’t lived local for many years but I went to the 2015/16 home game against Palace when he scored when we won 1-0 (halfway through his record breaking run) and it was a big three points and my favourite memory ⚽️

Wow - When did you get that printed?

Well done. You have named one person with zero premier League experience. I stand corrected. Liam Rosenior would have hit 50 points minimum.

But the reason there are so many comments like that is because it’s true. We’d be on circa 30 points now so, although in trouble it wouldn’t be a total embarrassment. We’d have had goals to cheer (scored in almost every game under Cooper) and Vardy would’ve hit the 200 goals mark for the club. And the main point is nobody better wanted to come here. Nobody can name anyone.

Even if you didn’t like Cooper, you can’t say he was just as bad. It’s biased and incorrect. Cooper was miles better than Ruud in every stat going. We scored in every single PL home game under Cooper and always picked up points against the teams around us. To go from scoring in every home game under Cooper to not scoring in nine on the trot under RvN shows the gulf between them.

Cooper’s goals scored and points per game were far superior to RvN’s so we know a big upgrade is possible. A traffic cone would be a significant upgrade on RvN.

The Cooper bashing still goes on doesn’t it? The bloke got 15 goals and 10 points in 12 PL games out of this squad. Who realistically could have we got that would have got a better return out of our squad than that? I’d argue the best managers in Europe would do well to get this team to score 15 goals in 12 PL games.

We scored in every single home game under Cooper.

He is our worst ever manager. There is no argument.

He is miles and miles worse than Steve Cooper in every stat. Steve Cooper got 12 PL games. We got 10 points and scored 15 goals in that period, a standard we could only wish for now. It’s not fair to compare them.