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Yeah but when you compare with cooper it’s like for like on similar fixtures 😂

This is all Cooper’s fault. We only scored 15 goals in 12 PL games under him. Should’ve got Ruud in sooner.

Cooper got 15 goals scored and 10 points from 12 PL games with this sorry squad. I wouldn’t say that’s bad. Even a very strong manager would struggle to hit one point per game on average with this lot.

How on earth did Cooper get this lot to score 15 goals in 12 PL games?

Marginally 😂

Please, please, please tell me you are trolling.

I think it will be Wolves away (fifth last game) when we are officially relegated. Even if by some miracle the gap is only ten points going into that game, Wolves winning would leave us 13 points behind with four games left. For it to be before then, the gap would have to be at least 16 points before the game, and I’m not sure Wolves will pick up enough points by then.

You don’t know that we wouldn’t have got close though. He picked up ten points out of twelve games, a run rate that would see us out of the bottom three now, and we scored in every single home game. We may have gone down anyway, but there’s nothing to back up that we wouldn’t have got close. A good manager would find it a challenge to keep this squad up, so Cooper’s points return and goals scored record doesn’t suggest that he wasn’t ‘in any way good’.

There is a lot of revisionism about Cooper’s brief reign on here. It is regularly commented that we have a Championship squad (which I agree with) and that Cooper was awful. Well surely if we had a Championship squad then logically Cooper did a pretty good job in the circumstances? Scored in every single home game (couldn’t be more different now) and regularly picked up points (again, couldn’t be more different now). We’ll never know if Cooper would’ve kept us up or not, but we’d have had a much better chance than we do now. One thing he did ensure is that we didn’t break Derby’s 11 point record low, which would have been an horrendous possibility if Ruud had been in charge the whole season.

Actually, the Opta Supercomputer currently has us at only a 98% chance of relegation. Must be one of RvN’s relatives in charge of it.

The people who called for Cooper’s head really can’t get over it can they? Do you honestly believe he would have done worse than eleven defeats out of the last twelve games and with a goalscoring record this dreadful? Under Cooper we scored in every single home game. Yes - we may have gone down under Cooper anyway, but he had a Championship level squad regularly scoring goals and collecting points so we wouldn’t have to suffer such apathy and resignation that we’re experiencing now. If RvN was manager from the start of the season we would be in serious trouble of breaking Derby’s eleven point record low.

I think relegation will be confirmed at the Wolves game. They’ll be at least ten points clear of us going into the match and when they beat us the gap will be at least 13 points with just four games to play.

RvN is clearly miles worse than Cooper. When you look at all of the stats it isn’t even close. But yes, we need to move on but to who? Dyche? Would he even want the job?

All the evidence shows Cooper would have kept us up. Kept Forest up in similar circumstances. We were out of the bottom three when he was sacked. Scored in every single home game. Picked up points in every game against teams around us.

Why the Cooper stick still? Cooper had a Championship squad out of the relegation zone and scoring in every single home game. Ruud is far far worse than Cooper in every stat going.

Please don’t compare RvN to Cooper. Even if you didn’t like Cooper he is clearly a far far superior manager. He got this sack of shit to score in every single home game and hit ten points out of twelve games!

Do you still disagree with me 😂

Unfortunately I am at the Londion Stadium. The RvN > Cooper debate is over. Cooper is a far superior manager to RvN. To go from 10 points in twelve games and scoring in every single home game to this woeful performance is an incredible downgrade.

Excited for beers in Liverpool Street beforehand. And when 3-0 down at half-time can head back home nice and early.

Cooper likely would have got us to 32/33 points based on the first third of the season and the fact that we scored in every single home game he managed, but even then that total would be unlikely to keep us up. There is zero chance Ruud will get us to that sort of total. We could possibly average half a point a game from now on in if we manage to score on rare occasions. That would give us another six points which would see us finish on 23.

RvN is far far worse than Cooper. We scored in all 6 PL home games under Cooper. Was that because of Hermansen as well?

It is not so much he hasn’t added anything, he has made things significantly worse. Before he arrived the team had scored in every single home PL game (imagine that - scoring in every home game ) and were 16th, so to say we were already down is nonsense.

Some blame? He has taken a team who had scored in all 6 PL home games before his arrival to one that has lost six PL home games in a row without scoring (nearly 7). However, the main blame lies with the decision to sack Cooper. We were 16th, had a hope of staying up and clearly no-one better wanted the job.

He is miles worse than Cooper.

Cooper to Ruud is the biggest managerial downgrade since O’Neill to Taylor.