Feel I need to make an admission here, and in response to this post feels appropriate, so sorry @Muzzy_no7 I called you a dinosaur for suggesting Moyes, it was a reaction to the impeding loss of what was personally felt to be the end of a new fresh direction for us. However, such managers should not be discounted as their experience is valuable and in this instance, may be a better route for survival options. Still don’t feel such a manager would be chosen, but that’s a separate topic.