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So comes in ahead of everyone else based on last season, rather than how he is performing this season?

Don't get me wrong, want him to break through. Just cannot see another he gets in beyond as a replacement in the short term.

Well this is where Marti needs to slowly integrate him back into the starting XI via sub appearances, if he is felt of sufficient quality to warrant it.

Such an uptick in performances would be most welcome I agree.

Do you not see that your logic is only irrefutable not because it's right but because it cannot be disproved evidentially? ( Whereas it is a super easy to say those that play are poor after every less than perfect outing. This cannot mean we must therefore play what is adjudged to be a currently lesser player in that position. These younger players are the future 100% but that does not mean it need to be more if they are not yet up to the requisite standard. The exit of the Crap Cup is a pain as it further reduces chances.

Not sure either of those were ever expected to be large scale goal contributors tbh.

Of course he is allowed to. He will make mistakes and that happens. But why do we think he is not in the team because of that? He is (I hope) not playing because he it is felt in training that he is not the best partnership, and will be allowed to try again when the opportunity arises; either through making him a strong choice in training, injury or shocking form within the current partnership. I don’t even count Faes’ cock ups as strong enough reasons, that’s just the sort of that twatty defender he is.

Part of this is that he is (presumably) there to get the ball higher up the pitch, hold onto it until others join the attack and (get ready for the punchline) lay it off to the other attackers.

Not sure why people are looking for conspiracy. Nelson cannot impress enough in training. Why isn’t it that simple? Our 90 minute window is a sliver of the observational scope the management team have.

They will be fairly used to each other in training, but fair enough on the match practice.

Yes it is a quandry as either of these 'forwards' still leaves a massive reliance on our wingers for goals.

That's nonsense, they train together all the time, and if that concept held any water then your first XI of the season should never change!

Both are poor and have different weaknesses. Daka is quick but cannot stick anything. Ayew can stick, but is slow. The squad we have impressively constructed contains few rounded players.

Sorry, for some reason, thought I was in the Nelson thread! Yes, Wout going suits all parties.

You surely are not thinking of Daka?

Why? Seemed reasonable.

Not massively different, as Vardy had been tearing it up albeit at a low level, this guy was clearly surplus to requirements at Feyenoord

Do we?

Only had half a game so far, gets involved, let us give him a chance.

Depends if the club is planning to get promoted this season, as Nelson who should hopefully be our future is not ready to replace them full tine imo. Old ground, but yeah broadly agree with the decline. Do not think youth players naturally replace older pro’s yesterday being a case in point. Panning Marti for not auto starting youth is silly, as don’t you think youth players have a pre-agreed pathway? I actually find this viewpoint infuriating as it’s the same attitude of children not getting their toys on Christmas Eve, and no we don’t know better This is where planning and patience is the order of the day But yeah, it’s all onions

Who in earth is saying that? You are suggesting bias yet easily forgive your own.

For the future of the club, this is true, for this season it's not. Depends what is the priority for the club. Promotion this season or building for the future.

Not a good day for the lad. Just hope he keeps his feet in the ground.

It is but it's also our misfiring poor attack that is bailing out our defence after yet another defensive cock up. Frustrating.

Strange one. An advertisement for and against both older pro’s and youth. We feel uncertain and certainly impotent in attacking areas, perhaps unimaginative.