Donwebbio

Even if we made a change and got in, by chance, a progressive young manager who got increased performance and an uptick in results. Isn't that just papering over the cracks? Isn't that just pretending that things are good at the top of the club and we just need a good manager to complete the vision? It would be a matter of time before that progressive manager realised that he doesn't have a DoF who would do anything but sign players on recommendation from agents for inflated fees and inflated wages with disregard for character or attitude of player. It would be a matter of time before realising that the club is in a huge financial hole caused by mismanagement of funds and that there is a culture of failure emanating from the very top of the organisation. It would be a matter of time before he jumps ship to a better prospect. Exactly what happened with Enzo. Another new manager is just delaying the day when Aiya-twat runs out of road and sells up.

Yes wrong way around! Skipp over anyone else. How embarassing!

Every time i wonder if Marti could be manager we could get behind I think about him playing Ayew over Mavididi or Faes over Nelson or anyone over Skipp and I just can't fathom it. That said. Aiya-twat out.

I would sooner the original Skippy the bush kangaroo playing in that no.6 role. He offers so little. At least you know Hamza is playing when central.

Obvious Norwich have more confidence than us and more desire than us, and thats a team who have lost 7 on the bounce at home. We haven't been in such a poor state since Holloway was talking about his nan's biscuit tin whilst taking us down in 2008. Dear oh dear.

What is it about Ayew that manager's seem to love so much?

Even if you are right on that, the club have backed him in the transfer window in the August to the tune of millions and then sack him 3 months later which backs up Caludio's original point that the club don't back their managers and to a degree neither do the fan base. I wouldn't have gone for Cooper after Enzo, i would have gone all in for Corberan who was keen by all accounts and would have been the most seamless transition in terms of style. Obviously we don't like to employ manager's in employment so we are always getting manager's who are at least tainted by a recent sacking or have insufficient experience.

What pawprints? You watch his first press conference after signing Skipp. So lukewarm about him that it could not have been his signing. The recruitment process is also shrouded in mystery so who knows who makes what decision and has input.

100% nailed it Claudio. We don't back managers which is why we only get tepid returns out of them. Enzo wasn't backed when he felt he needed reinforcements in the promition bid. Cooper wasn't perfect obviously, but was not backed by the club conducting the worst transfer window in living memory with Skipp, Ayew, BDCR, Edouard before sacking him for poor petformance from those players and picking up some results. Ruud was not backed in the window despite being promised reinforcements. All of them tried to freeze out the toxic wasters to some degree but these efforts ultimately not supported by the board and have allowed this ridiculous situation where so called 'senior' players have the chairman on speed dial to have a moan when they are asked to do things by the manager that they don't agree with.

No he doesn't have masses of quality but he isn't helping himself with not javing clarity in his approach or line up. My personal opinion is that it is pointless sacking a manager until the structure of the club is sorted because we will just appoint another average manager or below average manager. We could have got Corberan after Enzo left but baulked at the compensation fee of a few million and instead spent £25 million on Oliver Skipp & Ayew as well as the £10 million compensation to 2 subsequent managers. We are useless.

He hasn't done himself any favours at all. He has some garbage in that squad but I would expect a manager to know his best XI after 14 games and a style of play to suit that personel but I don't think he is anywhere near knowing. Even people with half an idea about football can tell you that Soumare, Skipp, Thomas, Daka, Ayew shouldn't be starting games for us. Last night's selection was bizarre. Nelson playing after no league minutes. Mavididi best player on Saturday being dropped and Ayew playing 90. Ricardo not playing, Monga not getting minutes despite us not having a shot 2nd half. Okoli playing RB and then at times inverting as a CM despite not being able to pass a ball. It all smacks of not knowing which way to turn.

If they do decide to sack him they will be a chucking a few more million in the compensation pot and will still be the ones appointing s successor. That will ne another manager who ticks the box of being keen to work under amateurs and currently out of work. So either Gary O'Neil or Russell Martin. The good news is that with every bad decision made by those 2, we are another step closer to the club being sold.

100% that's my take too. The last 3 Manager's have been royally thrown under the bus. And the thing they all had in common is that they were out of work and desperate for the job so agreed to whatever the club wanted. The leadership at the club must be the worst in the country.

Our squad is honking.

I can see there could potentially be light at the end of the tunnel with contracts, but I just have no faith in those in charge wont replace those dossers with some new overpaid and underperforming dossers.

I can see there could potentially be light at the end of the tunnel with contracts, but I just have no faith in those in charge wont replace those dossers with some new overpaid and underperforming dossers.

We are in a total mess. This will take years to sort out and that's with somebody who knows what they are doing. It makes you feel sick to the stomach.

I think fans need to come to the realisation that they shouldn't be supporting this regime in their own time. I have come to my own realisation this last week that I won't be spending one more penny and won't be renewing my membership (and 2 children) or going to games until the club is sold or something major happens in terms of club management. They have turned us into consumers so lets act like them. Disgruntled ones.

100%. We are being ran like a pub team and even that might be doing a disservice to a lot of pub teams. Awful, awful owners.

Yes I understand. Sack the board/sell the club. Either way Aiyawatt cannot be running our club. He is a cancer.

The fact fans turned their noses up at Dyche is laughable. Let's face it, we have a great training ground and a promising academy but everything else at the club is crap. The owners, the recruitment, the DOF, the players, the points deduction, the wage bill. Sack the manager and we will still be shopping in the bargain aisle for managers. SACK THE BOARD

The only thing that will force him to sell up will be 50% empty seats and nobody spending money at the ground or online. Protests wouldn't hurt but we don't have the passion as a fanbase. The fact he isn't even there says everything.

Not only is Aiyawatt a totally useless businessman and owner but he is childish and lacks class also. The lack of explanation for the reasons behind Whelan stepping down is something we have come to expect but not to acknowledge her departure either in his Portsmouth programme notes or even with an AI, 2 paragraph press release for 10+ years of service is terrible and very revealing of his character. I bet it wasn't even done face to face. As a fanbase, we need to get serious about removing him from our club.

I wonder if 10k empty seats might be enough to at least cause some panic in the boardroom.

That's how we roll baby! Why scour the market when agents do the leg work for John and bring him the cream? Our recruitment model is well established now and the only way that changes - and this nightmare ends - is with Top selling up.