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Yet people were saying how shit the team was under Still sounds familiar

Evan’s leaves united loans and pathway role

He has only started 4 league games

15 percent of Wrexham has now been sold to Apollo Sports Capital, the same company that owns La Ligagiants Atletico Madrid.

Did Derby ever look like scoring apart from the odd set piece? Well they hit the bar and Jannick cleared one that looked like it was on it way in so yeah, you must of missed them

Probably a little too complicated for you to comprehend.

Derby actually finished with better xG, which is crazy when you think we went 3-0 and they were there for the counter. statistically it was rather a fortunate result with 4 total shots, 4 on target and 3 goals. As we have seen previously, we are not always so fortunate and limited creativity normally costs us points.

Yeah as the season started, I’m sure you thought yourself if we 14th after 19 games, that’s not too bad. The manager would be doing a decent job. The previous 2 games he has been 3-0 down inside a half twice ever think that made him have no other choice to make the changes to the defence

You do waffle some crap

Let’s not pretend it’s some master stroke, to have Faes playing like a car crash most weeks and Nelson not involved was criminal. its only taken him nearly 30 hours and rather than turning a corner he was simply running out of options and time with 3 wins in 14 before today. Even with 3 points we are still in 20th for form over the last 10

Nearly had half a season and been abysmal, let’s see if he can use momentum and finish the first 23 games with a run of wins. We are in a shit position because he is tactically inept

Nothing new but Inside Leicester City's downfall as they head towards League One: Hidden impact of looming points deduction, the Jon Rudkin dilemma, a brain drain and why there's no quick fix for squad that fans have turned on 17:00, 04 Dec 2025, updated 17:03, 04 Dec 2025 By TOM COLLOMOSSE, FOOTBALL REPORTER Unlock more from Tom Collomosse inside the Leicester camp with a DailyMail+ subscription - brilliant exclusives, in-depth insight, analysis and more In a few short months Leicester will celebrate the 10th anniversary of the greatest moment in their history and of one of the best football stories ever told. Their spectacular march to the 2016 Premier League title was as delightful as it was unexpected and gave hope to every club in the world that one day, they might do the same. England’s elite have done their utmost to stop that happening again yet Leicester can blame only themselves for their alarming recent decline. If they are not careful, Leicester will be back in League One when they celebrate that unforgettable day, a decade ago. Owners King Power have tried to move closer to the disaffected fanbase in recent times, with chairman Aiyawatt Srivaddhanaprabha, known as ‘Khun Top’, pledging to spend more time in Leicester. Yet it will take a lot more than a few meet-and-greet sessions, however well-intentioned, to win back favour. Supporters want to see a credible plan, competently fulfilled. It is a long time since Leicester looked like delivering on either count. It is time for Khun Top to grip the situation. There are valid reasons for his spells of absence, but for some time there has been a feeling around the club that the chairman is too distant. Some wonder whether it has been too long since he had a clear grasp of how each department works. Khun Top intends to change that now, which can be only good news. Khun Top gave an interview to in-house channels last month when he admitted there would be no quick fix – and with Leicester 16th in the Championship, it is no wonder. Here, Daily Mail Sport looks at the challenges facing the Foxes owner. Points deduction Though the disciplinary hearing took place recently, Leicester have yet to learn whether they will face a points penalty for breaching financial rules in the 2023-24 season – when they were promoted back to the top flight. Sources contacted by Daily Mail Sportexpect the penalty to fall between six and nine points, though even when the verdict is delivered, it is unlikely to be the end of the saga. If Leicester are punished, it is reasonable to assume they will appeal. So too might the Premier League if they are unhappy with the independent panel’s decision. That could push the result back to February or even March. Not only would that have a significant impact on Leicester’s season, but it may also affect their ability to do business in January. Having reported losses of more than £200million over the last three years, Leicester would have little room for manoeuvre in the market even without the prospect of a points penalty. But if Leicester cannot determine whether they will be fighting for promotion, battling relegation or sitting in midtable, players will be reluctant to join them. Jon Rudkin’s role Khun Top appeared sincere in his interview. Though such public communication was long overdue, at least he delivered it with honesty and genuine feeling. There were none of the empty corporate phrases used by so many chief executives, that usually serve to alienate supporters rather than bring them closer. Top has held Zoom conversations with fan groups and plans to meet them in person when he returns to Leicester from his native Thailand. Much more will be needed to restore trust, though, starting with the position of Jon Rudkin. For nearly 12 years Rudkin has been an all-powerful director of football and, rightly or wrongly, has been identified by fans as most responsible for the current plight. As part of Khun Top’s attempts to rebuild the club, Leicester say they will hire a technical director and Rudkin will adopt a broader advisory role. Does this mean Rudkin taking a back seat? Few would believe it. It is thought Rudkin will play a significant role in identifying the technical director, who is unlikely to join until after the January transfer window. Leicester are also looking for a new chief executive officer and commercial director, as well as trying to fill at least one other senior position. It is hard to imagine Rudkin having no say in these appointments. Having had such a high level of control for so long, will Rudkin really push for an experienced technical director in the mould of Kevin Thelwell, who might challenge or even marginalise him? It is possible – though the far likelier course would be to appoint a relatively junior technical director. Keep an eye on Ben Wrigglesworth, Wolves’ highly regarded head of scouting, who used to work at Leicester. Cifuentes – stick or twist? When appointing Marti Cifuentes, Leicester turned their backs on Chris Wilder, which felt a curious decision. Wilder would have been prepared to challenge an over-mighty dressing room and though the clash would not have been pretty, Leicester would probably have emerged more united on the playing side. Wilder would also have been demanding of Rudkin in a way Cifuentes might not. Was that a factor in why he was overlooked? Cifuentes has a tough job. Fans are fed up of Harry Winks, Wout Faes and Jannik Vestergaard – to name three – and it is stretching credulity to think those players are thrilled still to be at Leicester. It is thought Winks set his heart on leaving during the summer and there was even chatter that their contracts might be paid up. That always felt fanciful but the mere suggestion tells its own story. Now Cifuentes is in a tight spot. If he picks these players, as he has continued to, he angers fans and puts himself in the firing line when they make mistakes. Yet by alienating them, he would drive down their value even further, at a time when Leicester need funds. And as every manager knows, senior players left on the margins can quickly become disruptive. Yet Cifuentes always felt an odd appointment. Last season, his Queens Park Rangers side finished 15th in the Championship. He is a talented coach but perhaps not one who can establish authority quickly over a squad, especially one as tricky to manage as Leicester’s. Now Cifuentes takes his team to in-form East Midlands rivals Derby on Saturday after two straight defeats, in which Leicester have gone 3-0 down both times. The Foxes insist they have faith in the Spaniard but a heavy defeat at Pride Park will surely test that. Yet here again, it is reasonable to wonder if Rudkin moves quickly enough. In Leicester’s position, most clubs would be making discreet soundings about coaches, so they can move swiftly if they need to make a change. Are Leicester doing this? We may find out soon enough. Shunning easy wins Leicester’s training ground is the envy of many across Europe and they are starting to see its benefits for younger players. They persuaded Jeremy Monga to stay at the club and reject elite clubs from across Europe. Monga is established in the first-team squad and Louis Page, Bade Aluko and Jake Evans are among those to have seen first-team action. Expect that number to grow as Leicester’s talented academy staff take them through the next steps. During these tricky years, though, Leicester have decided against certain moves that would have been instantly popular. Title-winning captain Wes Morgan joined Nottingham Forest in a scouting role nearly two years ago. Many would argue he should be working for Leicester. Nigel Pearson remains one of the club’s best-loved managers of recent times and is credited with building much of the squad that won the title under Claudio Ranieri. He had an excellent relationship with Leicester’s late chairman, Khun Top’s father Vichai Srivaddhanaprabha, and perhaps he could have been approached as an informal consultant. To the knowledge of Daily Mail Sport, this has not happened. Clubs cannot base strategy only on what makes fans happy. Ignoring them altogether is, however, just as foolish. Khun Top is now trying to claw back ground he has lost with supporters – for which he has publicly taken some of the blame. Anyone who saw Khun Top’s interview would struggle to characterise him as a cold, indifferent owner. Yet he should never underestimate the value of easy wins. January window Fans hoping that the squad will be significantly refreshed in January are likely to be disappointed. Leicester‘s need to comply with financial rules means there is little scope for them to bring in new players unless they sell others first. Of the current squad, only Abdul Fatawu is likely to command a significant fee and even then, it is doubtful that top-flight clubs would pay the sort of fee that Leicester would demand for one of their best players. This is why Khun Top did well to say there is no quick fix. The time for moving on unwanted players seems to have passed because there is little market for the likes of Winks, Faes or Vestergaard and the only option available therefore is to wait until these players are out of contract and their wages are off the books. Hopefully when that happens, Leicester will still at least be a Championship club. The hierarchy know that repeating the glory days of 2016, or even the FA Cup victory five years later, is a near impossible task in the short to medium term. But at least if they can stabilise things fans can start to dream again – however cautiously.

Sunderland on course to equal the points in 14 games, that we got in 38 games

Prob alt hoping it lowers the asking price come Jan

Bangladeshi Pun?

It’s appalling timing given the form the team are in, at the end of the day it just shows that the players are far too comfortable with losing, and that weak mindset has probably been exacerbated by a weak manager that is constantly blowing smoke up their arses telling them well done lads good effort, we go again next time

A decent manager would get him back to what he is capable of, shown glimpses but playing under a bloke that plays the same way week in week out.

But the majority are contracted past next year, and with dwindling careers on top money there are not likely to be many takers

I wasn’t saying it was your thoughts, simply replying to what you had posted

Erm because you responded saying those that want it for renewal not spite, so I wrote why I think that’s a short sighted approach

Short sighted the club would be on its arse It’s been built and reliant on Tv money for the previous 10 odd years and was still living beyond its means even when all the high earners go the average wage in league one is 7k we probably have crappy youngsters on double that players on nice long juicy contracts like Skipp Okoli Thomas Fatawu to 29 Mavididi VK to 28 Faes Jannick BCDR Choudary to 27

League One and League Two Clubs follow the Salary Cost Management Protocol (“SCMP”) These state that Clubs can only spend a fixed percentage of its revenue on player wages etc. This limit can also be added to or impacted by equity injections or net transfer spend.

People assume it’s some gimme, that you get promoted quick Sunderland Birmingham Ipswich Charlton, 4/5 seasons Bolton 6 seasons and a trip to league 2 Portsmouth 7 seasons

Decent investment because they sold their best players that made them a even worse team than than the shit show that finished less than half our points and 2 wins in 38

Yet €8m is £7m which would account for an upturn in form since his agreed price was set