Lillehamring

We have a lorry that turns up every month selling sea food - does that count? it's near the pub...

A strange building - the top half is entirely fake!

But that's the nature of the game - there's no other sport where every action is like a micro butterfly effect - there is so much precision in every play, so much jeopardy on an unsuccessful moment every play has the potential to flip a game - just look at detroit and their 4th down gambles. I get that the point makes a difference, but it only really starts to have a significant impact if it's the difference between a 1 or 2 score game - and even then, look at the niners DC win over detroit - 1 point in the scheme of things is a triviality.

Bear in mind that a number of posters on here are still saying that we are shit!

For me it started with your game at QPR away - granted i only saw the highlights, but it was all QPR and how they didn't score 4 or 5 i'll never know.

Have to remember that in the reverse fixture they did what you suggest and we were pretty poor, but we still only lost thanks to the woodwork and meslier somehow saving that last minute shot from off the goal line

The all time record is 14 - so 20 would be quite an achievement. And also, apart from arsenal in 2002, no one has managed 14 since 1950/1

Am i the only one who actually enjoyed the refereeing? Yes, Vaulks was lucky to not get a yellow, which made the winks one hard to take, but i can't remember seeing a ref who was so good at not just playing advantage, but also calling it back when no advantage was gained. I'd rather a ref understands this part of the game than doshes out yellow cards all game.

He started great but was one of the worst offenders for sloppiness 2nd half....

I'm alright with the walking pace second half tactics, but surely if you're going to do that, use your five subs and get some legs rested and some minutes in legs for others. It was clear a few players were struggling at the end (especially faes, vesty and praet), and the difference in our counter attacks first and second half was marked. Otherwise. No complaints, i even enjoyed seeing a ref play loads of advantages.

Fair enough, you'll understand that I haven't watched it again. Notwithstanding it didn't cost the game as some are suggesting.

OK, first of all, i have played so i'm not just clutching at shit. The point i'm making is that even if he had made the XP it wouldn't have made much difference. All it would have meant was that a FG wouldn't have tied the game, which would mean that KC would have been focussed on getting a TD instead - which would not have been beyond mahomes ability - especially as they made it to 1st and 10 at the SF 11. So, no it wasn't the key point in the game, KC just had a safety net to take it to extra time. It's nonsense to believe that that factor alone turned the game - the muffed punt was a far bigger turning point, as was the greenlaw injury. Sure, it made it a bit easier for KC but there was still 1 offensive and two defensive drives after in which to change the game again, sadly, SF failed to get a TD or stop KC. So, no the missed PAT didn't really make that much difference in the grand scale of things. If it had been the difference between a one or two score game, fair enough, it would be huge, but that wasn't the case. What was far more costly was failing to get a TD in OT when they had a 1st and 10 on KC's 15 - going for and missing the pass on 3rd and 4 was far more significant than the missed PAT - a TD instead of that FG would have swung the advantage massively in SF's favour.

I said earlier that losing greenlaw made all the difference for KC - i wasn't wrong. Once Dre Greenlaw went down, Oren Burks filled in for him. Here’s how he did in coverage: • 9 targets • 9 catches allowed • 1 touchdown • 134.7 passer rating when targeted • 32.1 PFF coverage grade

You are overlooking the fact that this is based on his OPTA ranking which is 6th (5th with appearance weighting) - it's just a technical award. Thus why Viktor Johannsen is currently the goalie in the OPTA TOTS.... Besides, 9 assists is the fifth most in the league, that is a big deal.

Who scored list it in a 442 format and also have summerville in the midfield. It's a silly system, ricardo is classed as a midfielder. And in the current team of the season, despite having the 5th highest opta rank, Fatawu doesn't get included in the team of the season because he plays, technically, the same position as clarke and sommerville.

I believe the term you are looking for is recency bias.

I woudn't go that far - neither was exactly MVP quality - and had greenlaw been on the field things would have been very different - kelce had 1 catch for 1 yard before his departure. The difference was not the QB level, this was a game won in the trenches and in the playcalling.

Not technically a fumble, but a live ball, but yeah, totally shifted the momentum - far more than the missed PAT.

Nonsense - i could list you a dozen things that were as costly as the missed PAT, even if he's made it, it would still have been a one score game, slightly harder, but then had they got it it wouldn't have even gone to OT.

Now, now... He hit two of the three longest FGs in superbowl history. You have to expect the OL to protect him on a PAT.

This is based on opta rankings from the 9-11th, so basically our game v watford - our best two players were ricardo and fatawu, and all the players in their positions ranked higher....

Never going to happen - Enzo has made it clear that neither doyle nor JJ can play the inverted role - if ricardo doesn't play, hamza gets the nod.

Piss. Had plenty of chances to finish that off, but just came up short on offence too many times.

My god, KC get away with so much holding!