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People forget about election campaign promises shorty afterwards tbh. Remember all those hospitals Boris Johnson said he’d build as one of the biggest selling points in the last election?

Nigel is just a”spiv” and a “grifter who is nostalgic the 80s” and definitely not a fascist apparently despite the fact these are the MPs his party put forward

“Polished”?! It was one of the most violently negative debate performances I’ve ever seen. Everything was nasty and trying to divide. All the **** he did was lie, scream over the opponent, try and whip up people against migrants, trans people and people who claim welfare and repeat slogans over and over. Everything he did came from a place of nastiness and division. There was nothing positive about the future, it was relentless pessimism about “surrendering to the opposition”.

And the constant blaming of immigrants and people who claim welfare for all the 14 years of suffering his party put the country though.

Christ, Sunak is a nasty man

How is this legal?

Christ, that poor person with the crutches who had to sell his cutlery to by medicine in Britain in the 2020s. Heartbreaking.

£1.4bn literally destroyed. This is “the party of fiscal responsibility” ladies and gentlemen. https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cll476qzm85o

I think you’re assuming all facsism = Naziism here. It’s not some kind of Aryan fantasy, but it’s certainly whipping people up into the belief in one very specific form of “Britishness” is better than other people and other people are over a lower standing and he’s happy to divide the nation into smaller and smaller groups and promise the world with impossible and made up economic promises and relying on conspiracy theories about “global elites” on climate change or Covid until he achieves that. And he’s using the broken economy as a vacuum to build up from this. Just look at the kinds of candidates Reform UK have and how many of them have actual links to British nationalist and British fascist parties.

And then he’ll be able to whip people up by saying “the establishment are out to get him” as he has successfully done for about 15 years.

He did it as an MEP for years. I think he’ll love be an opposition MP in a small party where he can turn up to PMQs every week and make a loud noise but has zero actual governing responsibility tbh. You think other populists like Nadine Dorris, Boris Johnson or Jacob Rees-Mogg actually care about their local communities and don’t already just delegate all the day to day MP stuff? It’s easy if you’re a politics junkie to feel like it’s so obvious he’s just peddling a bunch of easy answers, but the truth I think you’d be surprised about just how high a proportion of the electorate don’t understand what an MP actually does, they don’t understand basic economics or even what things like inflation is or what taxes actually pay for or the difference between the public and private sector or what interest rates do, nor understand what organisations like the EU, NATO, the Bank of England, the IFS, the UN etc. actually are or do. Things like “it’s the foreigners fault the NHS is on its knees” cut through because they’re extremely simple concepts to understand than “the IFS have said we’re going to have to pay more tax to fix the NHS”. I think people who say “he’s just a niche grifter” severely underestimate the power over a large proportion of the electorate he has and the huge difference he’s already made from the sidelines. And also severely overestimate how much the general public is actually interested in/understands politics.

I will hazard a guess that the number of people who liked Boris solely because of green policies is close to zero though.

Haha, wtf? Sorry that’s enough internet for today.

He’s gone into full meltdown mode now, calling Boris a Green. Surely the venn diagram of people who support Farage and people who support Johnson is just a circle. Feel like he’s going after his own voters here.

It’s escalating.

Tbh. I give it a year until the Mail start ragging on Ukrainian refugees and showing sympathies towards Putin.

Love to see the Right eating itself. The two Kings of the populist right having petty arguments like school children on Twitter.

Ok back on topic. Can’t remember the last time the man was so clearly rattled. You love to see it.

Great video. To me the most salient point is that they had to work at it, chipping away over years and splitting up the electorate into smaller groups. Until what they first said that sounded ridiculous eventually punctuated the centrists and moderates enough to make a difference. That’s what I see with regards to Russia and Farage btw. He makes a dog whistling comment that he can get away with saying “oh it wasn’t me supporting Russia, just pointing something out”, and over time it starts getting chipped away at, until it becomes a much more common opinion in the population.

There is an old Dan Carlin podcast where he talks about a German teacher he had when he was a child showing him videos of Hitler’s rallies. He said he and his classmates could not understand why people voted for it and they even found it funny in a slapstick kind of way. He said his teacher said to him something along the lines of “it’s natural you don’t understand it because you’re American not German. This rhetoric and imagery was presented in a way that makes sense to everyday Germans, some of it was almost mundane. If evil like this ever comes to America, it won’t look like this, it will be a kind of imagery and rhetoric that will only make sense to everyday Americans.” Farage is an evil that comes from a place that is fundamentally British and playing the rogue and underdog cards often to the point of mundanity and that’s why so much of it seems trite or everyday or “just like the rest of them” and why so many British people can’t see or think he might be a bit of an idiot but he’s not really that extreme. But if you read his manifesto and look at the underlying things he actually says, he talks about creating a society that breaks international laws, that turns Britain into a pariah, the plays absolutely any international organisation as a bogeyman, that creates a culture of fear and loathing of people who are not from a type of traditional stereotype of Britishness, his economic policies involve pulling numbers from thin air that no credible moderate can ever compete or debate with, a foreign policy that has a frightening admiration of “strong leader” dictator types, pummelling people with anti-climate change crap that will affect the country for the next century. He’s not some “grifter” figure who “found his niche”, this guy somehow got the UK to leave the European Union ffs and has pretty much caused all moderate Tories to be purged from the party, and lurched the political centre of the country significantly to the right. Extremely hard right politicians like like Rees-Mogg, Patel, Braverman who’ve had their fingers in power are only in power because of his relentless media campaigns over 15 odd years now.

He’s not at all like “most of them”. That’s the exact kind of lazy “all politicians are the same” line that he plays into when building himself up as a “rogue” “anti-establishment” figure. He is the most frighteningly evil influence on UK politics for decades exactly because of statements like that.

Nigel Farage is a genuinely evil human being.

Agent Cooper for sure. Greatest tv show ever.

Probably quite an accurate summation of the Fermi Paradox and the Great Silence.

If people still aren’t convinced Reform are hard right conspiracy theory peddling nationalists using cuddlier language to appeal to centrists, and its apparently not on to call them fascists, they’re literally just using any old remotely international sounding organisation as a bogeyman now