Thracian Posted 18 November 2005 Share Posted 18 November 2005 Calm down Thrach, You'll do yourself a mischief mate and it's you who is being judgemental. I wasn't there. I think 200 was a good number. I haven't called everyone who didn't attend sceptics, my implication (albeit not well enough put across) was that the biggest sceptics are those who would not attend at any costs. (The name Lush comes to mind and surprisingly to me Ric on this issue) As I quite clearly said, any change is better than none. I was actually applauding those that went. I'll certainly join you in that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hullfox Posted 18 November 2005 Share Posted 18 November 2005 I'll certainly join you in that. I'm glad we're sorted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted 20 November 2005 Share Posted 20 November 2005 BUT as i told Lisa, only through the political process will you change things. Don't flatter yourself, Lush. I've been saying for months now that the fans need to be lobbying MP's, so don't try and make out that you've thought of and put the idea into my head. Pathetic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lush Posted 20 November 2005 Share Posted 20 November 2005 Don't flatter yourself, Lush. I've been saying for months now that the fans need to be lobbying MP's, so don't try and make out that you've thought of and put the idea into my head. Pathetic. So it is rather "pathetic", that you went along to a meeting where NO mp`s were in attendence... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hullfox Posted 20 November 2005 Share Posted 20 November 2005 So it is rather "pathetic", that you went along to a meeting where NO mp`s were in attendence... Lush, do you have any redeeming traits? Surely even you can appreciate that any change if it comes, will be more likely as a result of a number of differing approaches. Lobbying MP's may be one way, attending meetings like the one last week another. These things do not have to be done in isolation and you know that full well what Lisa was implying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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lush Posted 20 November 2005 Share Posted 20 November 2005 Surely even you can appreciate that any change if it comes, will be more likely as a result of a number of differing approaches. Lobbying MP's may be one way, attending meetings like the one last week another. Explain to me how going to that meeting has changed things for the better? IF every single club had this kind of meeting, with petitions thousands long per club, THEN meetings WITH lcfc and countrywide are worthwhile, because mp`s would HAVE to listen. The rules and laws are NOT lcfc`s fault. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davieG Posted 20 November 2005 Share Posted 20 November 2005 Explain to me how going to that meeting has changed things for the better? IF every single club had this kind of meeting, with petitions thousands long per club, THEN meetings WITH lcfc and countrywide are worthwhile, because mp`s would HAVE to listen. The rules and laws are NOT lcfc`s fault. Because the meeting was never about changing the laws it was about getting a common understanding of their interpretation between, the Club, fans (through various representatives), SAG and the Police. As I understand SAG, the Police and the Club are taking away with them people's views and will agree a standard approach and interpretation - that seems to me a clear step forward when you take into account all the different reports of how they've been interpreted recently. As I quoted in a previous topic a mate of my sons was ejected, being the smallest of a group of 6 who stood on the back row of the kop celebrating a goal a fraction longer than the rest of the crowd. How many times do you need to have these things explained to you before you take in just one iota of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted 20 November 2005 Share Posted 20 November 2005 How many times do you need to have these things explained to you before you take in just one iota of it. I dread to think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The People's Hero Posted 20 November 2005 Share Posted 20 November 2005 This is why you should all stop bothering. Let him believe what he wants to believe, he's not going to change his flawed beliefs is he? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lush Posted 20 November 2005 Share Posted 20 November 2005 Because the meeting was never about changing the laws it was about getting a common understanding of their interpretation between, the Club, fans (through various representatives), SAG and the Police. How many times do you need to have these things explained to you before you take in just one iota of it. Ultra: "Calls were made for "common sense" to be applied to those standing up at matches, but the response was that the club's hands were tied by ground regulations (which were dictated by government legislation)." LCFC cannot change the rule of law, not even a tad, and it doesnt take 200 people in a meeting to find out what the rules are. On tuesday, go and read the rules in the concourse? How many times do you need to have these things explained to you before you take in just one iota of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The People's Hero Posted 20 November 2005 Share Posted 20 November 2005 Lush, we all take that point. The club's hands are tied by legislation. The point of the meeting was obviously one of the relationship between club and fans, whether rules are made clear enough, if stewards are doing their job well enough, areas which could be improved. Could you please now drop the issue as quite frankly you are very predictable, repetitive and dull... the point you're making was passable the first time I read it, now I feel that you may be a bit obsessive about it. I anticipate you posting the exact same thing as you've said in your other 2201 posts so here goes.. Lush responds (perhaps missing the point): It's got nothing to do with LCFC so what is the point in the meeting??? There.. you don't need to reply Lush - your opinion has been noted, derided and discarded. We don't need to hear it again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lush Posted 20 November 2005 Share Posted 20 November 2005 The point of the meeting was obviously one of the relationship between club and fans, whether rules are made clear enough, if stewards are doing their job well enough, areas which could be improved. You need 200 people to find out "whether rules are made clear enough, if stewards are doing their job well enough", deary me. Just because you folks hate me, its no reason to dis what i say. As mr c keeps pointing out to people, LCFC LCFC LCFC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The People's Hero Posted 20 November 2005 Share Posted 20 November 2005 Fu ck off! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC Prussian Posted 20 November 2005 Share Posted 20 November 2005 Fu ck off! It's not worth it. Let's together, alright? Whatever you say to Lush, whatever you want to debate with Lush, he'll never accept it and/or discuss it on a serious note. All that counts to him is proving his point, which is one far from reality. If he prefers to stay home, do nothing, asking the same "questions" over and over again and attack others for actually doing something in order to improve the situation at the Walkers, so be it. In this case, do not reply to Lush any longer. There is no point in it. Case closed. Thread? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hullfox Posted 20 November 2005 Share Posted 20 November 2005 You need 200 people to find out "whether rules are made clear enough, if stewards are doing their job well enough", deary me. Just because you folks hate me, its no reason to dis what i say. As mr c keeps pointing out to people, LCFC LCFC LCFC. Lush, I don't hate you. I just think that Care in the Community came too soon for your individual circumstances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC Prussian Posted 20 November 2005 Share Posted 20 November 2005 Lush, I don't hate you. I just think that Care in the Community came too soon for your individual circumstances. :mrgreen: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxes_Trust Posted 20 November 2005 Share Posted 20 November 2005 As Lush doesn't listen to us in believing it was worthwhile then he should listen to the words of Stand Up Sit Down who think our club organising such a meeting to encourage an exchange of views is rare & worthy of praise http://www.foxestalk.co.uk/forums/index.php?showtopic=12742 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted 20 November 2005 Share Posted 20 November 2005 Just because you folks hate me, its no reason to dis what i say. I love to see the ramblings of the deluded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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