Dyche Sacked

[Parafox]

Good decision or a knee jerk reaction?

 

Not keen on the guy but by and large, he's had Burnley punching above their weight for the last 9-10 years. 

Edited 17 April 2022 by Parafox

[Brainy]

Just seems a bit weird to leave it until now really

[goody2028]

Very odd decision. Could’ve just waited till the end of the season, thanked him plus the coaching staff for what they done for the club and moved on and started fresh to rebuild. Especially as they had Ben Mee in charge which suggests they’ve not got anyone lined up to come in sharpish?

[Sampson]

The Athletic reporting there was a big bust up between the players and managers and sounds like the players wanted him gone and went to the board which makes sense if so.

 

Otherwise would be a bit weird timing, but things had definitely got stale there over the past 12-18 months. Don't really get all the gushing tributes saying "Dyche would've kept them up, this has relegated" "Dyche would've brought them straight back up" etc. People seem to have this picture in their mind that current Burnley is the same blood and thunder in-your-face Burnley from 2 years ago, but they've been absolutely rotten since last January in terms of both performances and results and most of their best players (Pope, Tarkowski, Mee, Wood before he went) were looking shadows of their former selves and like Dyche couldn't motivate them anymore.

 

Think there's plenty of managers who could've made a much better fist of this season with Burnley than Dyche had they been given the whole season or even half the season, but the sacking with 8 games to go was a little surprising. Makes sense if the players have turned on him though.

 

Dyche is the big winner from all this though, this sacking has saved his reputation and future career prospects more than taking them down with a whimper which is what he likely would've done anyway, Now people can say "he would've kept them up" when he most likely wouldn't have gotten close to it.

[The Horse's Mouth]

2 hours ago, Sampson said:

The Athletic reporting there was a big bust up between the players and managers and sounds like the players wanted him gone and went to the board which makes sense if so.

 

Otherwise would be a bit weird timing, but things had definitely got stale there over the past 12-18 months. Don't really get all the gushing tributes saying "Dyche would've kept them up, this has relegated" "Dyche would've brought them straight back up" etc. People seem to have this picture in their mind that current Burnley is the same blood and thunder in-your-face Burnley from 2 years ago, but they've been absolutely rotten since last January in terms of both performances and results and most of their best players (Pope, Tarkowski, Mee, Wood before he went) were looking shadows of their former selves and like Dyche couldn't motivate them anymore.

 

Think there's plenty of managers who could've made a much better fist of this season with Burnley than Dyche had they been given the whole season or even half the season, but the sacking with 8 games to go was a little surprising. Makes sense if the players have turned on him though.

 

Dyche is the big winner from all this though, this sacking has saved his reputation and future career prospects more than taking them down with a whimper which is what he likely would've done anyway, Now people can say "he would've kept them up" when he most likely wouldn't have gotten close to it.

I think slagging of the performances of the past two years is an incredibly narrow view without looking at the context. Burnley lost big through the pandemic, they had no right to stay up, they'd lost so many players and with an already narrow talent pool they continued to over achieve, I think it was last year when they only had 13(?) senior players on the books. I think it's also clear the recruitment this year indicates to me that dyches role in this had been limited. Cornet couldn't be a more anti Dyche player, weghourst definitely seems like a dream player of his though .

 

People backed Dyche to be able to bring them back up because he had to rebuild before in similar circumstances, a lot of that team are probably off survival or not. Dyche knows that league inside out really. 

 

With all that said though, with the new ownership clearly looking at a different direction I think the parting of ways was right, Dyche had consistently been dropping hints of more money and with signings like cornet it does seem to back up the idea the new owners probably want a more progressive style similar to a Brighton.but the timing was pretty awful. Its looking increasingly like this is a move out of desperation rather than a calculated pathway to potentially set up this new image of Burnley the yanks have in store.

 

 

[Tiny earl]

2 hours ago, Sampson said:

The Athletic reporting there was a big bust up between the players and managers and sounds like the players wanted him gone and went to the board which makes sense if so.

 

Otherwise would be a bit weird timing, but things had definitely got stale there over the past 12-18 months. Don't really get all the gushing tributes saying "Dyche would've kept them up, this has relegated" "Dyche would've brought them straight back up" etc. People seem to have this picture in their mind that current Burnley is the same blood and thunder in-your-face Burnley from 2 years ago, but they've been absolutely rotten since last January in terms of both performances and results and most of their best players (Pope, Tarkowski, Mee, Wood before he went) were looking shadows of their former selves and like Dyche couldn't motivate them anymore.

 

Think there's plenty of managers who could've made a much better fist of this season with Burnley than Dyche had they been given the whole season or even half the season, but the sacking with 8 games to go was a little surprising. Makes sense if the players have turned on him though.

 

Dyche is the big winner from all this though, this sacking has saved his reputation and future career prospects more than taking them down with a whimper which is what he likely would've done anyway, Now people can say "he would've kept them up" when he most likely wouldn't have gotten close to it.

Any attributable quotes in The Athletic - thought not.