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Climate Change - a poll

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Climate Change - a poll  

397 members have voted

  1. 1. Climate Change is....

    • Not Real
      33
    • Real - Human influenced
      284
    • Real - Just Nature
      80

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grobyfox1990

grobyfox1990

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As we move beyond the environmental, social and governance (ESG) hype bubble it is time 
for business to recognise that, irrespective of short-term market sentiment, an economic 
transition is inevitable. We cannot do business on a dead planet, and we can be certain that 
business as usual will not continue. Although the window for action is narrowing, businesses 
still have the opportunity to protect their long term viability and success by working to 
reshape the markets on which they depend. 

 

I totally understand and empathise with Trump and Farage, they have a short term window to make serious money from their happy clapper followers. However I do not understand the happy clappers who believe the words that come out of their mouths, it's them that'll be counting the cost.

TBH they deserve it and I look forward to the day the industry milks them dry, but that's not in keeping with the human tone of this thread 

leicsmac

leicsmac

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cvgjw0kpd89o

 

Areas across the UK from Cornwall to County Down have seen their wettest January on record continue with heavy rain in February.

The deluge the country has been experiencing in the last week has been put down to a blocked weather pattern - a high pressure system over Scandinavia is preventing the wet weather from moving away.

The Met Office estimates that at current levels of global warming, wet winters like 2023/24 have gone from being once in 80-year events to once in 20 - and with further warming this could become even more frequent.

This could have significant impacts for housing, transport and food supply.

One farmer in Somerset told the BBC that he was living on a "knife edge" as his crops were days away from rotting in the floodwater.

 

Welcome to the future, everyone. Arriving ahead of schedule. 

BigGibbo

BigGibbo

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Real - Human influenced, but, I think we've reached a point where planning for and mitigating the consequences (along with investing in renewables and scientific break-throughs) is going to be less costly, in every sense, than hamstringing ourselves to barely make a dent in global emissions due to our size.

 

Obviously in an ideal world we would all move in lockstep towards net zero emissions (in as much as that is possible and discounting all the con tricks that currently allow it to appear that way), but the future of climate channge is going to be determined by China, India and the Americas so we need to stop martyring ourselves and start dealing with reality.

leicsmac

leicsmac

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3 minutes ago, BigGibbo said:

Real - Human influenced, but, I think we've reached a point where planning for and mitigating the consequences (along with investing in renewables and scientific break-throughs) is going to be less costly, in every sense, than hamstringing ourselves to barely make a dent in global emissions due to our size.

 

Obviously in an ideal world we would all move in lockstep towards net zero emissions (in as much as that is possible and discounting all the con tricks that currently allow it to appear that way), but the future of climate channge is going to be determined by China, India and the Americas so we need to stop martyring ourselves and start dealing with reality.

A suite of approaches is clearly needed from the UK because, as you say, they can only do so much. Switching to renewables where possible, looking at fission units, and beefing up both flood defences and crop robustness in the face of increased flooding and drought events.

 

But yes, chief among that suite of solutions has to be, along with other "second-tier" powers as a bloc, is walking the walk and talking the talk internationally so that at least some of the "first-tier" powers will (eventually) follow. China are making steps. The US and India, sadly less so.

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BigGibbo

BigGibbo

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4 minutes ago, leicsmac said:

A suite of approaches is clearly needed from the UK because, as you say, they can only do so much. Switching to renewables where possible, looking at fission units, and beefing up both flood defences and crop robustness in the face of increased flooding and drought events.

 

But yes, chief among that suite of solutions has to be, along with other "second-tier" powers as a bloc, is walking the walk and talking the talk internationally so that at least some of the "first-tier" powers will (eventually) follow. China are making steps. The US and India, sadly less so.

Absolutely, and in terms of walking the walk there's has to be acknowledgement of, and mitigation for, those who are most affected by said policies at home i.e. less well off people with unaffordable utility bills.

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leicsmac

leicsmac

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1 minute ago, BigGibbo said:

Absolutely, and in terms of walking the walk there's has to be acknowledgement of, and mitigation for, those who are most affected by said policies at home i.e. less well off people with unaffordable utility bills.

Agreed. Those most vulnerable in terms of cost during such transitions have to be looked after, the same way those in zones vulnerable to flooding etc need to be too. 

 

That doesn't mean, however, that such transitions cannot or should not happen.

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BigGibbo

BigGibbo

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2 minutes ago, leicsmac said:

Agreed. Those most vulnerable in terms of cost during such transitions have to be looked after, the same way those in zones vulnerable to flooding etc need to be too. 

 

That doesn't mean, however, that such transitions cannot or should not happen.

Of course, but nor should we steamroller and ignore those people as is currently the case. 

 

We need big thinkers and a multifaceted approach, like you said, but unfortunately our political and civil spaces seem devoid of that.

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  • 3 weeks later...
leicsmac

leicsmac

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https://phys.org/news/2026-02-method-climate-extremes-reveal-europe.html

 

How much will heat, flooding, drought and storms increase as a result of human-induced climate change? In a groundbreaking study, climate researcher Gottfried Kirchengast and his team at the University of Graz have developed a new method for computing the hazards from extreme events: it can compute all relevant hazard metrics for events such as heat waves, floods and droughts in any region worldwide with unprecedented information content.

Using it for Europe, the researchers found that anthropogenic climate change has caused a 10-fold increase in extreme heat in recent decades.

leicsmac

leicsmac

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23 hours ago, CornwallFox said:

Scientists are trying to solve the mystery of whether global warming is speeding up. A new study says it has the answer | CNN https://share.google/iRXDN3o2skwqpiBwD

 

Spoiler: yes, global warming might well be speeding up. 

Further to this:

 

https://phys.org/news/2026-03-reveal-significant-global.html

 

Global warming has accelerated since 2015, according to a new study by the Potsdam Institute for Climate Impact Research (PIK). After accounting for known natural influences on global temperature, the research team detected a statistically significant acceleration of the warming trend for the first time.

Over the past 10 years, the estimated warming rate has been around 0.35°C per decade, depending on the dataset, compared with just under 0.2°C per decade on average from 1970 to 2015. This recent rate is higher than in any previous decade since the beginning of instrumental records in 1880.

 

We live in interesting times. Which will only get more interesting. 

leicsmac

leicsmac

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13 hours ago, CornwallFox said:

BBC News - Austrian glaciers disintegrating due to climate change, say scientists

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cd038pgrr1yo

 

 

 

2 hours ago, CornwallFox said:

https://www.livescience.com/planet-earth/blackwater-lakes-and-rivers-in-the-congo-basin-are-now-emitting-ancient-carbon-into-the-atmosphere

 

Peatlands in Africa were thought to be carbon sinks but they're now emitting carbon. A tipping point may have been reached for carbon saturation. 

It's fun to live in unprecedented times of change, isn't it?

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CornwallFox

CornwallFox

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In January of this year the UK's national security assessment into Global biodiversity loss, ecosystem collapse
and national security was published. 

 

You can find it below. 

 

This is not written by Greenpeace, hippies or even scientists. It's our government's formal assessment of security risk. 

 

Read it. The main body is only about 10 pages long. 

 

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/696e0eae719d837d69afc7de/National_security_assessment_-_global_biodiversity_loss__ecosystem_collapse_and_national_security.pdf

 

Some 'highlights':

 

The world is already experiencing the impacts of biodiversity loss,

including crop failures, intensified natural disasters and infectious

disease outbreaks.1,2,3

Ecosystem degradation is occurring across all regions and

ecosystems. The average size of monitored wildlife populations declined

by 73% between 1970-2020. Populations of vertebrate species have

declined by an average of 68% since 1970. Freshwater ecosystem species

populations have shown the largest losses, falling 84% in the same period.4

The rate of extinction is tens to hundreds of times higher than the

average over the past 10 million years. It suggests that a sixth mass

extinction may be underway.2, 5

With current trends, global ecosystem degradation is highly likely

to continue to 2050 and beyond. There is a high degree of uncertainty

around the timing and pathways of ecosystem degradation, given the

number and complexity of the drivers involved.

Food production is the most significant cause of terrestrial biodiversity

loss.6, 7 As the global population grows, reaching 9.7 billion by 2050,8

 the

impact of food production on natural systems will intensify and it will

become even more challenging to produce sufficient food sustainably.

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leicsmac

leicsmac

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2 hours ago, CornwallFox said:

In January of this year the UK's national security assessment into Global biodiversity loss, ecosystem collapse
and national security was published. 

 

You can find it below. 

 

This is not written by Greenpeace, hippies or even scientists. It's our government's formal assessment of security risk. 

 

Read it. The main body is only about 10 pages long. 

 

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/696e0eae719d837d69afc7de/National_security_assessment_-_global_biodiversity_loss__ecosystem_collapse_and_national_security.pdf

 

Some 'highlights':

 

The world is already experiencing the impacts of biodiversity loss,

including crop failures, intensified natural disasters and infectious

disease outbreaks.1,2,3

Ecosystem degradation is occurring across all regions and

ecosystems. The average size of monitored wildlife populations declined

by 73% between 1970-2020. Populations of vertebrate species have

declined by an average of 68% since 1970. Freshwater ecosystem species

populations have shown the largest losses, falling 84% in the same period.4

The rate of extinction is tens to hundreds of times higher than the

average over the past 10 million years. It suggests that a sixth mass

extinction may be underway.2, 5

With current trends, global ecosystem degradation is highly likely

to continue to 2050 and beyond. There is a high degree of uncertainty

around the timing and pathways of ecosystem degradation, given the

number and complexity of the drivers involved.

Food production is the most significant cause of terrestrial biodiversity

loss.6, 7 As the global population grows, reaching 9.7 billion by 2050,8

 the

impact of food production on natural systems will intensify and it will

become even more challenging to produce sufficient food sustainably.

Oh, look, it's only what the global climate science corps have been warning about in terms of consequence for decades. 

 

Now, imagine for a moment what humans will be like when that bottom tier of Maslows Hierarchy gets kicked out from underneath them on a massive scale?

  • 3 weeks later...
grobyfox1990

grobyfox1990

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'Renewable energy overtook coal as the largest global electricity source in 2025, driven largely by rapid solar and wind expansion in China and India. Both countries saw simultaneous declines in coal-fired power for the first time in decades, as clean energy growth met rising electricity demand. Globally, renewables supplied over one-third of electricity and met nearly all new demand.'

 

China And India Cut Fossil Fuel Power As Renewables Overtake Coal In 2025 - ESG News

 

'Why should I be subjected to this nut zero b4llocks if China don't bother!!!' Yes that is a good point Mr H Clapper and another solid reason why you should vote Farage.

Start coming up with your excuses as to why we gladly gifted the investment riches of the transition to China.

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leicsmac

leicsmac

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8 minutes ago, grobyfox1990 said:

'Renewable energy overtook coal as the largest global electricity source in 2025, driven largely by rapid solar and wind expansion in China and India. Both countries saw simultaneous declines in coal-fired power for the first time in decades, as clean energy growth met rising electricity demand. Globally, renewables supplied over one-third of electricity and met nearly all new demand.'

 

China And India Cut Fossil Fuel Power As Renewables Overtake Coal In 2025 - ESG News

 

'Why should I be subjected to this nut zero b4llocks if China don't bother!!!' Yes that is a good point Mr H Clapper and another solid reason why you should vote Farage.

Start coming up with your excuses as to why we gladly gifted the investment riches of the transition to China.

Welcome to the Chinese century, the rest of us will just be living in it.

 

At least their actions might just mean the worst consequences of increasing global average temperature can be avoided. 

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leicsmac

leicsmac

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12 hours ago, CornwallFox said:

Error in climate related measurements.....

Things are even worse than was thought re vehicle related CO2 emissions

 

Climate scientist finds large errors in a global climate pollution database https://share.google/LAiZCav9eZWB2GIAd

 

 

It's darkly hilarious that almost all of the recent findings on this matter indicate that not only is there a problem, the contribution of humans to it is actually worse than originally thought. 

 

That being said, looking at the numbers power generation is still the most pressing issue to address on this one. 

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