TrickyTrev Posted 11 October 2004 Posted 11 October 2004 Okay firstly it is an opinion, I obviouslty can't back that up with a comprehensive scientific study, but will howefver point out the obvious. Micky Adams has achieved promotion with 3 different clubs, none of which were expected to go up through automatic promotion. Would you like me to go through the record of Jogn Gregory and Trevor Francis and see how they compare or do you get the point. <_<
TrickyTrev Posted 11 October 2004 Posted 11 October 2004 The list is shit! 25818[/snapback] If i made that post if get people in my ear telling me i should back my comments up, surely thats an immature comment for someone of your intelligence? 25826[/snapback] There is fineline between being concise and being too brief.
Guest Daniel Posted 11 October 2004 Posted 11 October 2004 How many players did he sign to get us promoted?
Mark Posted 11 October 2004 Posted 11 October 2004 How many players did he sign to get us promoted? 25834[/snapback] Thats not nessercery important, Iain Dowie didnt sign anyone and worked wonders at Crystal Palace in 5 months. I still think though it was mainly down to Muzzy why we went up. Micky just did terrible since he started his wheeling and dealing.
Oli Posted 11 October 2004 Posted 11 October 2004 Like Micky then, he can only manage someone elses team. Point made there.
Guest Daniel Posted 11 October 2004 Posted 11 October 2004 He only had to turn up each week, he had a championship winning team there. Didnt excatly work miracles did he?!
Ash Posted 11 October 2004 Posted 11 October 2004 How many players did he sign to get us promoted? 25834[/snapback] He didnt need to sign anyone , we had a very strong team at the time So your saying if you became Arsenals manager you would sign new players ? No because the team is already strong enough !
Oli Posted 11 October 2004 Posted 11 October 2004 So if the squad was that strong why make it weaker when we got promoted?
Guest Daniel Posted 11 October 2004 Posted 11 October 2004 Thats what im saying, it was strong enough. Why dod people go on like he did mircales getting us prmoted? We had about the best squad in the division, he didnt excatly work wonders.
Ash Posted 11 October 2004 Posted 11 October 2004 So if the squad was that strong why make it weaker when we got promoted? 25845[/snapback] Because we got promoted to a new league the Premiership , one of the best leagues in the world ! We needed new players with experience .50% Of them wasnt succesful 50% were !
TrickyTrev Posted 11 October 2004 Posted 11 October 2004 So if the squad was that strong why make it weaker when we got promoted? 25845[/snapback] Is that a joke? Think for a second? That squad plus Piper, Savage, Rowett and a few others and minus 2 years of aging were no where near good enough for the Premierhsip when they got relegated the season before. So why should this squad be anymore capable 2 years later in a stronger premiership? Also, you don't believe Bent, Ferdinand and Thatcher were at least improvements on the squad? If you would like a manager who would have left our squad the same after our promotion then thank god you are not the chairman!
Oli Posted 11 October 2004 Posted 11 October 2004 Bent no, he was never commited, played 3 or 4 good games. Never put his whole heart into it. A minute ago you were saying he didnt need to change it because it was strong enough! Make your mind up!
TrickyTrev Posted 11 October 2004 Posted 11 October 2004 Thats what im saying, it was strong enough.Why dod people go on like he did mircales getting us prmoted? We had about the best squad in the division, he didnt excatly work wonders. 25848[/snapback] We did not have a squad at all, we had a good first 11 after that we were extrmely weak. We had to play division 3 standard players like John Stevenson and Nicky Sumerbee after a couple of injuries! Tommy Wright and Trevor Banjamain played importnat roles for us in the second part of the season even Chris o'Grady got a game. We did not have a strong squad at all, and we got the best out of average players like Deano, Sinco, Davidson, Billy Mac and Trev. We made good players look great like Elliott, Dickov and Izzet. Be fair tot he man at least.
TrickyTrev Posted 11 October 2004 Posted 11 October 2004 Bent no, he was never commited, played 3 or 4 good games. Never put his whole heart into it. A minute ago you were saying he didnt need to change it because it was strong enough! Make your mind up! 25856[/snapback] I never said that he shouldn't strengthen. <_< Bent was extrmely committed and it is a myth to say that he wasn't. I personally think Thatcher had more games when he didn't look committed or interested.
Eastern Fox Posted 11 October 2004 Posted 11 October 2004 Bryan Robson at 8-1 is a very scary thought, he's just little Peter Taylor-spent millions at Middlesborough and still got them relegated. John Gregory is a twat too, no man-management skills -did anyone see him mouthing off about Stan Collymore in that programme on channel 5 last night? Ian Holloway would be a good choice, he's turned QPR around and he's on a one rolling contract so compensation shouldn't be too high. Mike Newell would be good, too but Luton would want a lot of money
TrickyTrev Posted 11 October 2004 Posted 11 October 2004 Bryan Robson at 8-1 is a very scary thought, he's just little Peter Taylor-spent millions at Middlesborough and still got them relegated. John Gregory is a twat too, no man-management skills -did anyone see him mouthing off about Stan Collymore in that programme on channel 5 last night? Ian Holloway would be a good choice, he's turned QPR around and he's on a one rolling contract so compensation shouldn't be too high. Mike Newell would be good, too but Luton would want a lot of money 25859[/snapback] Luton would not be in a position to command a lot of money, they pay him veryu little as they are in huge debts and only recently emerged from administration.
Scow Posted 11 October 2004 Posted 11 October 2004 Tony Cottee 20/1 Cottee nearly destroyed Barnet - Took charge half way through a season when they were midtable, then got them relegated.... Ask any Barnet fan about Cottee, none will be too pleasant....
Ric Flair Posted 12 October 2004 Posted 12 October 2004 Being a football manager must be one of the hardest jobs in the world, it's such a complex situation to be in. A manager can work wonders at one club and then have a nightmare at another, it's all about the settings, the understanding they have between board, manager and players and abit of luck to be honest. Micky Adams was and is a good manager, he has his faults and I think these were highlighted at Leicester, but I am sure if he goes to another club they might not be so evident and he might do brilliantly. That's why whoever we get as manager I will be 100% behind them as it's a tough job to be in and with the current crop of players we have got there is no reason why someone can't sort this mess out. Dave Penny or Mike Newell are both inexperienced, but are showing great managerial material and we do like managers from lower leagues.
Craig Posted 12 October 2004 Author Posted 12 October 2004 Just to clear things up, cottee is a legend, but i actually meant to put the thumbs up next to Megson.
Craig Posted 12 October 2004 Author Posted 12 October 2004 Dave Bassett 6/1 Howard Wilkinson 6/1 John Gregory 6/1 Brian Robson 8/1 Gary McAllister 8/1 Paul Jewell 10/1 Mike Newell 12/1 Nigel Clough 12/1 Steve Claridge 12/1 Brian Little 16/1 Danny Wilson 16/1 Glenn Hoddle 16/1 Ian Holloway 16/1 Paul Hart 16/1 Tony Cottee 20/1 Gary Megson 25/1 Gordon Strachan 25/1 Martin Keown 25/1 Trevor Francis 25/1 Bobby Robson 33/1 Gary Lineker 33/1 Gerard Houllier 33/1 Gerry Taggert 33/1 Stan Tennent 33/1 George Graham 50/1 Gerry Francis 50/1 Lawrie Sanchez 50/1 Peter Taylor 50/1 Tony Adams 50/1 Frank Worthington 250/1 **UPDATED ODDS**
Cat Burger Posted 12 October 2004 Posted 12 October 2004 Bent no, he was never commited, played 3 or 4 good games. Never put his whole heart into it. A minute ago you were saying he didnt need to change it because it was strong enough! Make your mind up! 25856[/snapback] I never said that he shouldn't strengthen. <_< Bent was extrmely committed and it is a myth to say that he wasn't. I personally think Thatcher had more games when he didn't look committed or interested. 25858[/snapback] I was gutted that Thatcher betrayed us, I didn't think he would, he showed lots of commitment IMO as for Bent he was great but not the kind of player that exerts excess energy! I spoke to him once and he said he liked it in Leicester, I was drunk and asked him to stay.. haha.
Guest freund Posted 12 October 2004 Posted 12 October 2004 Tony Cottee 20/1  Cottee nearly destroyed Barnet - Took charge half way through a season when they were midtable, then got them relegated.... Ask any Barnet fan about Cottee, none will be too pleasant.... 26076[/snapback] Yes, my second team is Barnet, I dislike Cottee. The first game he beat Blackpool 7 - 1, then he got rid of all the decent players, got Barnet relegated and then buggered off.
breadandcheese Posted 12 October 2004 Posted 12 October 2004 Tony Cottee 20/1   Cottee nearly destroyed Barnet - Took charge half way through a season when they were midtable, then got them relegated.... Ask any Barnet fan about Cottee, none will be too pleasant.... 26076[/snapback] Yes, my second team is Barnet, I dislike Cottee. The first game he beat Blackpool 7 - 1, then he got rid of all the decent players, got Barnet relegated and then buggered off. 26205[/snapback] Freund, how about Paul Fairclugh? He seems a good manager. Do you think he would be capable of stepping up to the City challenge? Got a great result at the weekend. In another thread, I suggested him as a possible
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