Stevie Dawson

[Ric Flair]

It was pleasing to see Dawson was included on the bench on saturday. I know he didn't get on, which was a shame but atleast it gives us an indication that Levein has him in his plans.

One thing I will say about Levein is that he doesn't tend to use subs as much as Micky did, not that this is a problem when your winning but I think it's always good to get as many fresh legs on as possible. I think Dawson would have stepped things up on saturday if he'd come on. Near the end I thought Gemmill looked tired and Dawson would definately have shored things up, it's got to only be a matter of time before he gets his chance.

Keep up the good work Stevie.

[MON]

There are 2 argueemnts to this. Ih he had made a sub and we had conceded a late goal fans would have blasted Levein like they did Micky. I think it was the right thing to do, to not use any subs. It just confuses players, well mickys did. Micky hardly ever made a straight swap. I can remember when we had to move 5 pLAYERS around for one sub, when micky was in charge, we conceded in the last minute.

[Guest]

There are 2 argueemnts to this. Ih he had made a sub and we had conceded a late goal fans would have blasted Levein like they did Micky. I think it was the right thing to do, to not use any subs. It just confuses players, well mickys did. Micky hardly ever made a straight swap. I can remember when we had to move 5 pLAYERS around for one sub, when micky was in charge, we conceded in the last minute. 

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Agreed. If it ain't broke, don't try and fix it.

We all had a go at Adams for unnecessarily changing things. I'm glad to see a more settled line-up, barring injuries and suspensions.

[Ric Flair]

Good point I suppose, but subs shouldn't disrupt things that much. If anything it should give the team a lift when they most need it, but I think Levein has got it spot on so far. I would like to see some younger players in though because our starting line up on saturday was far too old and it showed in the first half, there was no energy or vibrancy.

[Louise]

If we'd been winning 3-1 I think he would have put him on, he just wasn't going to take the risk otherwise..

[Ash]

I think Levein will give the youngsters a chance in the FA Cup , and maybe include them on the bench odd times but untill he gets to know them better he will continue with the likes of Gemmill,Dublin etc etc

[MON]

I think Levein will give the youngsters a chance in the FA Cup , and maybe include them on the bench odd times but untill he gets to know them better he will continue with the likes of Gemmill,Dublin etc etc

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Gemmil and Dublin played well on saturday so why not continue with them. We need the experience to get us into those play-offs and then maybe try to push is into autmoatic promotion places. Gemmil is like mckinlay for me.

[Ash]

I didnt say we shouldn't change it did i ? I said Levein will continue playing them as he knows more about them , than the youngsters !

[Ric Flair]

Our team lacks youth though and that's been our downfall it really has. We will be found out again if we continue with old players that are inconsistent. Gemmill and Dublin have been awful all season, granted they were ok on saturday but one games doesn't make a season.

[Mark]

I fear it was a one off, given Gudjonsson is back next Saturday. Nice experience for him i suppose which is a start from nothing at all.

[Ric Flair]

I fear it was a one off, given Gudjonsson is back next Saturday. Nice experience for him i suppose which is a start from nothing at all.

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Possibly, but it's a result of his hard work in the reserves. What I was worried about what that he had been doing so well before Levein came and then he wasn't in the starting line-up for the reserves and I feared the worst. But fair play to Levein he obviously notices that Dawson is a great prospect and there is no way that if Dawson continues to impress that he'll be ignored. Same goes for Stearman, they have both got to knuckle down and if they do that then they'll get their chance there's no doubt about that.

[Anish]

I fear it was a one off, given Gudjonsson is back next Saturday. Nice experience for him i suppose which is a start from nothing at all.

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Exactly what I was gonna say. When Gudjonsson and Tiatto are back I doubt Dawson will even make the subs bench

[Mark]

I fear it was a one off, given Gudjonsson is back next Saturday. Nice experience for him i suppose which is a start from nothing at all.

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Exactly what I was gonna say. When Gudjonsson and Tiatto are back I doubt Dawson will even make the subs bench

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Which will be a bad decision <_<

[Scow]

I think Levein will give the youngsters a chance in the FA Cup , and maybe include them on the bench odd times but untill he gets to know them better he will continue with the likes of Gemmill,Dublin etc etc

41189[/snapback]

Gemmil and Dublin played well on saturday so why not continue with them. We need the experience to get us into those play-offs and then maybe try to push is into autmoatic promotion places. Gemmil is like mckinlay for me.

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They didn't play well, they were average. Dublin had a shocking first half, but improved in the second. Gemmill looked off the pace a lot of time, losing a fair proportion of 50/50 challenges.

[Mark]

I think Levein will give the youngsters a chance in the FA Cup , and maybe include them on the bench odd times but untill he gets to know them better he will continue with the likes of Gemmill,Dublin etc etc

41189[/snapback]

Gemmil and Dublin played well on saturday so why not continue with them. We need the experience to get us into those play-offs and then maybe try to push is into autmoatic promotion places. Gemmil is like mckinlay for me.

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[Scow]

I think Levein will give the youngsters a chance in the FA Cup , and maybe include them on the bench odd times but untill he gets to know them better he will continue with the likes of Gemmill,Dublin etc etc

41189[/snapback]

Gemmil and Dublin played well on saturday so why not continue with them. We need the experience to get us into those play-offs and then maybe try to push is into autmoatic promotion places. Gemmil is like mckinlay for me.

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That's quite funny really as Gemmill isn't a patch on McKinlay. But each to their own I suppose....

[MON]

I think Levein will give the youngsters a chance in the FA Cup , and maybe include them on the bench odd times but untill he gets to know them better he will continue with the likes of Gemmill,Dublin etc etc

41189[/snapback]

Gemmil and Dublin played well on saturday so why not continue with them. We need the experience to get us into those play-offs and then maybe try to push is into autmoatic promotion places. Gemmil is like mckinlay for me.

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That's quite funny really as Gemmill isn't a patch on McKinlay. But each to their own I suppose....

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I meant the way in which both have come here wanting to get their contracts extended. Basically playing for no moeny. Mckinlay and Gemmil make short passes, nothing special. Gemmil ha simpressed me, Dublin seems like a good back-up as well. These two players will be vital to us, their experience can lead us through games at the end, and thay are good back-up.

[Scow]

I think Levein will give the youngsters a chance in the FA Cup , and maybe include them on the bench odd times but untill he gets to know them better he will continue with the likes of Gemmill,Dublin etc etc

41189[/snapback]

Gemmil and Dublin played well on saturday so why not continue with them. We need the experience to get us into those play-offs and then maybe try to push is into autmoatic promotion places. Gemmil is like mckinlay for me.

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That's quite funny really as Gemmill isn't a patch on McKinlay. But each to their own I suppose....

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I meant the way in which both have come here wanting to get their contracts extended. Basically playing for no moeny. Mckinlay and Gemmil make short passes, nothing special. Gemmil ha simpressed me, Dublin seems like a good back-up as well. These two players will be vital to us, their experience can lead us through games at the end, and thay are good back-up.

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Gemmill has done nothing to deserve his contracts, he's been a waste of space who adds nothing to our team. McKinlay was fantastic, he played every game as if it was his last - You can't really say the same about Gemmill, can you?

As for Dublin, he wants to leave, plus he's been shite this season with a series of inept, passionless performances. Hope he pisses off in January, that will be a burden off the wage bill, then we might be able to bring in a striker with some pace, mobility and ability.

[MON]

I think Levein will give the youngsters a chance in the FA Cup , and maybe include them on the bench odd times but untill he gets to know them better he will continue with the likes of Gemmill,Dublin etc etc

41189[/snapback]

Gemmil and Dublin played well on saturday so why not continue with them. We need the experience to get us into those play-offs and then maybe try to push is into autmoatic promotion places. Gemmil is like mckinlay for me.

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That's quite funny really as Gemmill isn't a patch on McKinlay. But each to their own I suppose....

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I meant the way in which both have come here wanting to get their contracts extended. Basically playing for no moeny. Mckinlay and Gemmil make short passes, nothing special. Gemmil ha simpressed me, Dublin seems like a good back-up as well. These two players will be vital to us, their experience can lead us through games at the end, and thay are good back-up.

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Gemmill has done nothing to deserve his contracts, he's been a waste of space who adds nothing to our team. McKinlay was fantastic, he played every game as if it was his last - You can't really say the same about Gemmill, can you?

As for Dublin, he wants to leave, plus he's been shite this season with a series of inept, passionless performances. Hope he pisses off in January, that will be a burden off the wage bill, then we might be able to bring in a striker with some pace, mobility and ability.

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I agree, but Gemmil and Dublin are good back-up for the time being. You cannot deny that

[Mark]

I agree, but Gemmil and Dublin are good back-up for the time being. You cannot deny that 

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All them two are doing is hindering youth progress. Doesnt matter though as so many people seem satisfied with it.

[TrickyTrev]

Well Dublin is probably the seond best centre back we have at the club behind keown so I would definately keep him.

I don't really rate Gemmill but can see he is claming influence in a hectic midfield, he is better than Joey anyway.

[davieG]

Well Dublin is probably the seond best centre back we have at the club behind keown so I would definately keep him.

I don't really rate Gemmill but can see he is claming influence in a hectic midfield, he is better than Joey anyway.

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Well I don't think anyone would agree about Dublin after the first half on Saturday him and Dabizas were like Laurel & Hardy on ice.

I can't believe on that performance that Heath and Stearman could be worse.

[Ric Flair]

I just don't buy in to this experience thing anymore, a few years ago I would say it's essential that your team has alot of experience for you to succeed. After watching some truely disgusting performances over the past year or so with these players who hvae no right to play the way they have done I personally think experienced players such as Dublin, Wilcox, Makin, Gemmill, Dabizas, Blake, Hignett, Elliott, Pressman, Howey, etc should be treated the same as inexperienced players coming through the ranks. It's obvious these so called experienced players a team like us sign are well past their best so why should they automatically walk in to our team and continue to stay there irrespective of how badly they perform?

Now don't get me wrong, there are certain old players that can prove to be excellent signings, but out of the majority of players we've signed over the age of 30 under Micky Adams and Dave Bassett nearly all of them have been shocking. Tiatto, Nalis, Ferdinand, Deane,McKinlay and Keown being the only ones I can think of that have been any good. There is a whole host of shockers we've signed though, which brings me to the conclusion that it's a gamble, a big gamble. They are a bunch of mis-fits and it's inevitable some of them will be crap, so I can't see how it's a bigger gamble to play players such as Stearman or Dawson in circumstances like the one we are in.

[who-izzet]

I think it's always good to have abit of experience at any team, but we have too many of these guys.

The problem with Mickey Adams team was no matter how experienced these guys are, it's all out the window when they keep getting chopped & changed & played out of position.

I've gotta say though CL seems to be settling the squad down & their fighting for the cause now. It's been a long time since we have seen something like what Williams done last week to save us. The fighting spirit seems to be coming back & heads arn't dropping when were loosing.

With the subs, I wouldn't get them on just to get them experience when it's a close game. 1 inexperienced moved could cost us the game & it would also knock their confidence.

Oh wellcome me!

[davieG]

I just don't buy in to this experience thing anymore, a few years ago I would say it's essential that your team has alot of experience for you to succeed. After watching some truely disgusting performances over the past year or so with these players who hvae no right to play the way they have done I personally think experienced players such as Dublin, Wilcox, Makin, Gemmill, Dabizas, Blake, Hignett, Elliott, Pressman, Howey, etc should be treated the same as inexperienced players coming through the ranks. It's obvious these so called experienced players a team like us sign are well past their best so why should they automatically walk in to our team and continue to stay there irrespective of how badly they perform?

Now don't get me wrong, there are certain old players that can prove to be excellent signings, but out of the majority of players we've signed over the age of 30 under Micky Adams and Dave Bassett nearly all of them have been shocking. Tiatto, Nalis, Ferdinand, Deane,McKinlay and Keown being the only ones I can think of that have been any good. There is a whole host of shockers we've signed though, which brings me to the conclusion that it's a gamble, a big gamble. They are a bunch of mis-fits and it's inevitable some of them will be crap, so I can't see how it's a bigger gamble to play players such as Stearman or Dawson in circumstances like the one we are in.

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The problem with bringing the younger players through is opportunity. Now most young players get their first introduction by coming on in the last 10 to 30 minutes of a game.

That to me has been the problem with LCFC both under MAs and now under CL, when in the last two years have we been in a game where you would feel comfortable/confident about bringing on young, inexperienced, untried players for the last period of the game. Most Games we have been in absolute panic mode, bringing those types of players on at that point I believe would imbed in them the same nervy culture and the cycle would continue.

One has to believe that eventually CL will be able to knock this out of the team, although I suspect it wont happen until 90% of them have been replaced. Therein lies the manager’s dichotomy I’m sure he would love to blood Stearman, Dawson and others but he needs to totally destroy this last 30 minute panic phase, could he really have put Dawson on last Saturday during that last 15 minutes of purgatory, I think not.