Leonisco Posted 27 October 2006 Posted 27 October 2006 .. thinks there should be 'managerial windows' so that clubs can only sack crap managers at certain times of the year. What a load of bollocks <_<
lcfc_jme Posted 27 October 2006 Posted 27 October 2006 Ridiculous. Stupid. Daft. Don't at all agree with it and there's no way that it'll take off
lookwhaticando Posted 27 October 2006 Posted 27 October 2006 It is a bit nonsensical if you limit them to the same window that applies to player transfers. After all, most clubs that are in deep sh/te in January don't have a hope in hell of saving themselves, by which time it's too late to sack the manager and bring someone useful in. If you're going to bring this kind of rule in, it should be a no-sackings window rather than managers can only be sacked during the window. Ban clubs from sacking managers from say the start of the season until the end of November. Even that's not exactly a good proposal. It's basically shite. And what happens when a manager wants out, not the club wants the manager out? As with players, they're stuffed until the window is open. Just what you need, a manager in a position he doesn't even want. :laugh:
Thracian Posted 27 October 2006 Posted 27 October 2006 What do they want - a 10-year rolling contract as well as all the compo they get? Trouble is half of em move from being good footballers into management situations where they have little or no proven competence or tallent whatsoever. How come he doesn't propose they start in the Conference and see if they're any good before they f...k up some big club? I don't say I'd never start someone near the top but they would be rare, rare exceptions. I am quite convinced that many people outside the inner sanctum of football could do a far better job of man-managing, motivating and organising people than some of football's enduring old boys. Just listen to some of them on TV. Some don't show a grain of inspirational spark in anything they say. In any other industry, lots of them would have no earthly chance of being managers. And they people they were managing would simple take the piss. Coaches? Again as with managers, there are exceptions and some are okay. But others clearly haven't got the imagination, eye for detail or the ability to avoid allowing boredom to set in which helps to make a good coach. Nor have they got the sensitiveity to deal with different situations and different people in their ever changing moods. Listen to some of the greats. Brian Clough, Bill Shankly, MON. All of them wonderful communicators. And, often clever enough not to be around too much and become familiar. They also have great wit and, therefore the ability, if they want, to put something over in the form of a quip or to take pressure off people simply by their light-heartedness. Finally all were able to get the very best out of individuals. To do that you have to understand what their job entails, not the job you used to do.
Jay Posted 28 October 2006 Posted 28 October 2006 from BBC's Gossip column Man City boss Stuart Pearce says a transfer window should be introduced for managers to give them greater job security. (Various) well as he could be sacked at any moment he would say that wouldn't he!!!
Maybes Posted 28 October 2006 Posted 28 October 2006 from BBC's Gossip column well as he could be sacked at any moment he would say that wouldn't he!!! That is a ridiculous idea.
Babylon Posted 28 October 2006 Posted 28 October 2006 Job security? What a load of crap, if they get sacked managers get a big fat pay off so why do they need job security.
Daggers Posted 28 October 2006 Posted 28 October 2006 Job security? What a load of crap, if they get sacked managers get a big fat pay off so why do they need job security. ...because otherwise they just sit at home surfing Amazon trying to find stuff to buy with their millions, open a pub and become alcoholics. I'd love that
lookwhaticando Posted 28 October 2006 Posted 28 October 2006 We're in it together! sang the managers. Gordon Strachan wants to see a "sacking window" introduced for managers. (The Herald) Either the paper got the names wrong, or Pearce isn't the only one.
vanfox12 Posted 28 October 2006 Posted 28 October 2006 What do they want - a 10-year rolling contract as well as all the compo they get? Trouble is half of em move from being good footballers into management situations where they have little or no proven competence or tallent whatsoever. How come he doesn't propose they start in the Conference and see if they're any good before they f...k up some big club? I don't say I'd never start someone near the top but they would be rare, rare exceptions. I am quite convinced that many people outside the inner sanctum of football could do a far better job of man-managing, motivating and organising people than some of football's enduring old boys. Just listen to some of them on TV. Some don't show a grain of inspirational spark in anything they say. In any other industry, lots of them would have no earthly chance of being managers. And they people they were managing would simple take the piss. Coaches? Again as with managers, there are exceptions and some are okay. But others clearly haven't got the imagination, eye for detail or the ability to avoid allowing boredom to set in which helps to make a good coach. Nor have they got the sensitiveity to deal with different situations and different people in their ever changing moods. Listen to some of the greats. Brian Clough, Bill Shankly, MON. All of them wonderful communicators. And, often clever enough not to be around too much and become familiar. They also have great wit and, therefore the ability, if they want, to put something over in the form of a quip or to take pressure off people simply by their light-heartedness. Finally all were able to get the very best out of individuals. To do that you have to understand what their job entails, not the job you used to do. "I am quite convinced that many people outside the inner sanctum of football could do a far better job of man-managing, motivating and organising people than some of football's enduring old boys". But how many would get the chance if that was the case. Besides you have to have the relevant qualifications to coach and manage at league level even if such things are load of rubbish when it comes to proving you are any good. Apparently O'neill and Fergie haven't got the relevant qualifications and will need to take a test in a couple of years to continue working in management. However i can also understand why the likes of Lineker and Hansen prefer to work in the media. It's a cushy number and you don't have the stigma of being a failure and you're forever regarded as a legend by the fans of clubs you played for. Look at some of the greats that have failed in management - Bobby Charlton, Brian Robson and even Sir Stanley Matthews. Although some great managers have been great players. The majority have either had less than great careers or have had their playing careers curtailed by injury and have made up for their less than successful playing careers by being more determined in their approach to coaching and management.
holly Posted 28 October 2006 Posted 28 October 2006 hmmmm well in some ways i think it actually could be a good idea, annoying for the fans who have the crap manager yes but atleast then u dont have other clubs trying to poach ur manager
vanfox12 Posted 29 October 2006 Posted 29 October 2006 hmmmm well in some ways i think it actually could be a good idea, annoying for the fans who have the crap manager yes but atleast then u dont have other clubs trying to poach ur manager I think the biggest problem is the length of contracts in most cases which means that they get a pay off if their sacked but nothing if they resign. I think they should only get the balance of payment on the basis of period spent in the job or nothing at all because thats how everyone else is paid in the real world if they get the sack.
Ultra Posted 30 October 2006 Posted 30 October 2006 from BBC's Gossip column well as he could be sacked at any moment he would say that wouldn't he!!! After tonight's result, maybe not. But nearly 12000 empty seats at Eastlands suggests the fans' patience is wearing thin..
gatesheadfox Posted 31 October 2006 Posted 31 October 2006 i would love a sacking window at work, they may only sack me for being useless in Smarch of 2010, yeah that'll do! face it pearce, ur feckin useless and a window will only delay the inevitable!
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