Chandler Posted 4 January 2005 Posted 4 January 2005 OK. Let's see now... Would I be wide of the mark in saying that so far Craig Levein has been a bit of a disappointment? Things could get better of course. They could also get worse, a lot worse. I seem to remember that when the fickle boneheads started calling for Micky's head (after game 4 - the home defeat to Watford) they made the usual moronic presumption that a change in manager meant a change in fortune. They never once considered that the change in fortune could be for the worse (let alone ask themselves about why we got off to a slow start AND THEY STILL HAVEN'T DONE THIS). But of course when things slowly started to go tits up they (I'll be honest I mean most of YOU LOT) went into denial. First of all you went gaga. You started to imagine we were playing better. This started straight away when DB was doing his caretaker stint. Four draws on the spin. Very impressive. Then, when the rot really set in (although we were still playing brilliantly of course) the real problem surfaced. It was the players fault (er even though they were playing brilliantly). Or rather it was Micky's fault for buying them. It was not Craig Levein's fault. So what do we have? Craig Levein brilliantly managing a crap team purchased by an even crappier manager but who are playing brilliantly even when losing at home to to the worst team in the Championship. Now that all sounds very silly and very paradoxical. But that is what a number of your posters are actually saying on this board. And why are they saying it? Because they are pretending. They are covering up for the fact that things are now a whole lot worse than they were under Micky Adams. They are also embarrassed. Why? Because I and a few other individuals who reacted with our grey matter rather than our spleens to our slow start TOLD THEM THAT THIS WOULD HAPPEN. So now they are living in a fantasy world. So wake up Highland Fox...
King Kyle lcfc Posted 4 January 2005 Posted 4 January 2005 What are you some kind of micky adams love child i swear he left about four months ago u should be a forest fan living in the past whats happened has happened it might not of been for the best but get over it for fox sake!
MON Posted 4 January 2005 Posted 4 January 2005 I have been saying the same, we are worser now, then we were under Micky Adams. But they were his signings.
ForeverBlue Posted 4 January 2005 Posted 4 January 2005 Can someone explain to me how we are worse now than under Adams. Please, a sentence that tells me what was better about our performances under Micky Adams than under Craig Levein??
BartonFox Posted 4 January 2005 Posted 4 January 2005 WTF are you talking about Chandler????? Slow start to the season made by a team put together under the Adams/Bassett regime, their third full season together. There was some optimism about some of the players, Tiatto, Williams, Gudjohnsson, Connolly and Keown. However, most of the rest were dross or dross that had got us relegated so abjectly the season before. I await to read your thoughts on when the Club went 'tits up', but CL is dealing with years of crap collected by our previous administrations and what our current board allowed to be gathered together.
Muz Posted 4 January 2005 Posted 4 January 2005 Some people dont give anyone a chance. Craig Levien has got a shit squad of has beens which nobody else wanted.In the squad at the moment i would only keep Conners and Jordan.He is trying to get rid of those players and get his own people in that he thinks will bring sucess to Leiceter. Get a grip Chandler
davieG Posted 4 January 2005 Posted 4 January 2005 OK. Let's see now...Would I be wide of the mark in saying that so far Craig Levein has been a bit of a disappointment? Things could get better of course. They could also get worse, a lot worse. I seem to remember that when the fickle boneheads started calling for Micky's head (after game 4 - the home defeat to Watford) they made the usual moronic presumption that a change in manager meant a change in fortune. They never once considered that the change in fortune could be for the worse (let alone ask themselves about why we got off to a slow start AND THEY STILL HAVEN'T DONE THIS). But of course when things slowly started to go tits up they (I'll be honest I mean most of YOU LOT) went into denial. First of all you went gaga. You started to imagine we were playing better. This started straight away when DB was doing his caretaker stint. Four draws on the spin. Very impressive. Then, when the rot really set in (although we were still playing brilliantly of course) the real problem surfaced. It was the players fault (er even though they were playing brilliantly). Or rather it was Micky's fault for buying them. It was not Craig Levein's fault. So what do we have? Craig Levein brilliantly managing a crap team purchased by an even crappier manager but who are playing brilliantly even when losing at home to to the worst team in the Championship. Now that all sounds very silly and very paradoxical. But that is what a number of your posters are actually saying on this board. And why are they saying it? Because they are pretending. They are covering up for the fact that things are now a whole lot worse than they were under Micky Adams. They are also embarrassed. Why? Because I and a few other individuals who reacted with our grey matter rather than our spleens to our slow start TOLD THEM THAT THIS WOULD HAPPEN. So now they are living in a fantasy world. So wake up Highland Fox... 51742[/snapback] Very nice Chandler, but can you now explain in a simple, succinct manner what on earth you are going on about. I wanted MAs out because he'd run his course and taken us as far as he could, he was IMO mentally exhausted. He and Bassett made the decision to buy the players they did and made the proclamation that nothing less than 2nd place would be acceptable from those players. This was obviously not going to happen, guilty of failure, for what ever reason by his own admission. Note I'm NOT embarrassed in any way by attitude to MA's, he did a good job for a year, was not up to the task of managing a Premier team made the wrong decisions with his recruitment of players for this year and did the honourable thing and RESIGNED, I respect that.. As for CL well I was pleased with his appointment, whether we are worse off now than when he started is IMO irrelevant. All managers have different views on how the game should be played and would therefore require players of different abilities and styles. When CL has that and has been put to the test then and only then we will know if he has been successful. I make no excuses for CL progress so far, of course it would be nice if we were doing better but CL has never promised anything other than maintaining the status quo this season except to lower the age of the team because he knows he has so little room to manoeuvre. So on that basis what point are you trying to make and indeed why are you trying to make it.
filbertway Posted 4 January 2005 Posted 4 January 2005 Rotherham have got 7 out of a possible 9 points in their last 3 games, the league table may suggest they are the worst but there current form suggests otherwise. I'm sure we could come up with list of 50 mistakes micky made. I will get the ball rolling Giving dickov and thatcher a release claus.
Mark Posted 4 January 2005 Posted 4 January 2005 Rotherham have got 7 out of a possible 9 points in their last 3 games, the league table may suggest they are the worst but there current form suggests otherwise.I'm sure we could come up with list of 50 mistakes micky made. I will get the ball rolling Giving dickov and thatcher a release claus. 51755[/snapback] Dickov's was signed by Bassett so his release clause wouldn't have been given by Micky, and probably Thatcher also as Bassett discussed the contracts with the players? In the end, both as bad as each other.
dan_84 Posted 4 January 2005 Posted 4 January 2005 Rotherham have got 7 out of a possible 9 points in their last 3 games, the league table may suggest they are the worst but there current form suggests otherwise. iv seen a lot worse tams this year than Rotherham.
Little Nicky Posted 4 January 2005 Posted 4 January 2005 Adams renewed dickov's contract though, so it was he who was at fault for the release clause, I still think Bassett wasn't much help in the matter though!
Ric Flair Posted 5 January 2005 Posted 5 January 2005 OK. Let's see now...Would I be wide of the mark in saying that so far Craig Levein has been a bit of a disappointment? Things could get better of course. They could also get worse, a lot worse. I seem to remember that when the fickle boneheads started calling for Micky's head (after game 4 - the home defeat to Watford) they made the usual moronic presumption that a change in manager meant a change in fortune. They never once considered that the change in fortune could be for the worse (let alone ask themselves about why we got off to a slow start AND THEY STILL HAVEN'T DONE THIS). But of course when things slowly started to go tits up they (I'll be honest I mean most of YOU LOT) went into denial. First of all you went gaga. You started to imagine we were playing better. This started straight away when DB was doing his caretaker stint. Four draws on the spin. Very impressive. Then, when the rot really set in (although we were still playing brilliantly of course) the real problem surfaced. It was the players fault (er even though they were playing brilliantly). Or rather it was Micky's fault for buying them. It was not Craig Levein's fault. So what do we have? Craig Levein brilliantly managing a crap team purchased by an even crappier manager but who are playing brilliantly even when losing at home to to the worst team in the Championship. Now that all sounds very silly and very paradoxical. But that is what a number of your posters are actually saying on this board. And why are they saying it? Because they are pretending. They are covering up for the fact that things are now a whole lot worse than they were under Micky Adams. They are also embarrassed. Why? Because I and a few other individuals who reacted with our grey matter rather than our spleens to our slow start TOLD THEM THAT THIS WOULD HAPPEN. So now they are living in a fantasy world. So wake up Highland Fox... 51742[/snapback] What a thoroughly interesting read, I totally disagree with it but I still enjoyed the fuzz of it. I guarantee that the majority of the boo boys weren't fooled in to thinking that a change of manager would proceed in us automatically pushing up the table. Obviously there's always optimism when you get a new manager and there is a chance that a change in manager can kick start a season, but it's not always the case. What us fans wanted was for the club to go forward and think about the long term future not the short term like Micky Adams did. Just because there's no guarantee of our team becoming successful again over-night it doesn't mean we should accept second best and stick with a manager like Micky Adams. He'd run his course, he'd become childish in the way he acted towards the fans and the media and you could tell he was a dead man walking. He'd realised that he'd shot himself in the foot by spouting off about not judging him until he had entirely his own team and then when he did have his own team we suddenly became really shit and he knew it! Craig Levein has came in accessed the squad and he himself knows it's looking pretty desperate. The problem is in this league is that it's not really about talent that propels you up the league it's confidence and the habits this squad has got in to are horrible. Now Micky has got to shoulder the blame for this, it's not much of a secret that Adams was tactically inept and this has resulted in a shambles of a team. Levein needs to iradicate this and he deserves time, he talks a good game and he has some great plans for this club. In time if he doesn't sort this mess out then he'll come under criticism, but at the minute he's finding his feet and success can't be demanded straight away.
Hoof Fox Posted 5 January 2005 Posted 5 January 2005 Yes you are right Chandler, we are in a worse state just like we were in the early days under MON, it will take time for things to be turned around. Chandler you really are a fickle bonehead and you wear Micky Adams arse as a hat !!!!!!!!!!
Chandler Posted 5 January 2005 Author Posted 5 January 2005 Hoof Fox, 10/10 for honesty. Yes I did wear Micky's arse for a hat but after a while it dyed my grey hair brown so I wrapped it up in Andrexand sent it to LCFC where it is now being used as a bicycle park. By the way don't you think The Darkness are dead ringers for Spinal Tap (or has someone already made this observation)? The vocalist (sorry, not well up on yoof culture) reminds me so much of David St Hubin that tears come to my eyes whenever I hear him prattling on. If by any slim chance you haven't seen This Is Spinal Tap I recommend several viewings. When you fully absorb the satire it'll put you off contemporary music for life!
Alexikokopops Posted 5 January 2005 Posted 5 January 2005 By the way don't you think The Darkness are dead ringers for Spinal Tap (or has someone already made this observation)? The vocalist (sorry, not well up on yoof culture) reminds me so much of David St Hubin that tears come to my eyes whenever I hear him prattling on.If by any slim chance you haven't seen This Is Spinal Tap I recommend several viewings. When you fully absorb the satire it'll put you off contemporary music for life! 52186[/snapback] "The review you had on Shark Sandwich was merely a two word review, which just said 'Shit Sandwich'"
Chandler Posted 6 January 2005 Author Posted 6 January 2005 Twenty years on and still going strong. Why? Because Spinal Tap is the truth. Not just about heavy metal but about much of contemporary music generally. Understandably it hurts when you see the music business for what it really is - talentless art school druggies sold to gullible, impressionable teenagers by canny agents and producers - so the market looks the other way. You'll like it when you're older Alex...
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