MM the Executive Chairman From Today

[davieG]

What will the future bring?

Based on MMs ambitions will it be:-

Success?

Promotion to the Premier League? A sustained existence in there and riches beyond our dreams

Mediocrity?

A succession of managers and players and yoyoing from Championship to Premiership.

Failure?

In three years will MM be clearing off leaving us no better off than we are now, never having quite made the Premiership with huge debts unpaid and wanted by no one?

We don't know, the crystal ball is clear as summers day but it's going to be interesting finding out hanging on to MMs coat tail as we are dragged into the public eye, hopefully because we're successful.

[Zingari]

mediocre

A succession of managers and players and yoyoing from Championship to Premiership.

this is my expectations for the future of the club; twas ever thus, twill always be

I think that is the case for most "leicester sized" clubs who at certain times have relatively good times without actually doing anything exceptional ; Forest ( under Clough )of course being the glaring exception.

The die is cast i believe for the majority of clubs and very few break away from their group type .

Leicester city are well entrenched in the third tier group, but being a supporter , this should not matter , all we can hope for are the relatively better times , ie a league cup or a short foray into the early stages of the eufa cup.

Sorry if this sounds pessimistic

[Babylon]

What will the future bring?

Hope!!

And that's enough for me.

[Ric Flair]

Hope!!

And that's enough for me.

Same here.

[davieG]

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[Babylon]

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Ha ha nice.

[Zingari]

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took me a while to get that ; i thought you were ignoring us

very "clock" wise

[Geo V]

All we can ask as football fans is that our club to be ambitious and forward thinking because you know for every one club that is like that there will be 5 who are going the opposite direction. With MM coming in we are out of the dour slump of not being able to buy players and praying that we wont be selling our better players and now we look forward to the summers dealings and are optimistic that we will have a better team in place to be more competitive next season.

I personally am looking forward to us adding some heroes on the pitch to replace the mediocrity that we currently have as our fans deserve much better than they have been getting in recent years. Its our time now and we deserve it.

[Thracian]

We don't know. I have great reservations and concerns about the wholesale selling off of football clubs to opportunists but have to say that if we were going to sold to such a person MM seemed as good as any.

The result was a feeling of excitement and expectation for me just as much as those who welcomed him as they would a Messiah.

Now I feel a sense of frustration. I have heard and seen nothing since the takeover which has justified that excitement. Quite the contrary. I've heard about the end of young and hungry and I've seen the grim visual effect of replacing youth with experience.

I've become sick of hearing about Hendry going here, Jeffers there, Lupoli down the road and then seeing the sort of player who turns up on our doorstep.

Looking at MM's approach at Portsmouth I honestly thought we might at long last get someone at the top of our club who felt the same way.

But what's the point in the owner wanting exciting footballers if RK seems to want something else and, sadly, I have yet to see any evidence that Kelly will ever be anything like Keegan. Even if he had exciting players I think he'd stiffle them in some torrid system.

I still remember Babylon telling me about RK's time with Blackburn youth and presumed he meant that Kelly was an attacker. But it's easy to attack when the results don't really matter - a bit like Beaglehole here.

What I want is someone who sets their own trends with the first team, who is prepared to lead rather than follow, who will put Leicester's name up in coloured lights and brings back a sense of carnival and who makes us get buzzing at the prospect of matchday once more.

Someone who cares as much about the means as the end.

I want someone flamboyant rather than austere, expressive rather than functional, an artist rather than a labourer. Football IS about entertainment as well as winning. Look at Newcastle first half last night.

MM might take us there eventually. He's a focused guy. I even retain some faith in him. But nothing said and done so far confirms the logic of that feeling. You just cling on to it.

[Zingari]

its his first day as chairman and i too expected a great deal more

[Ric Flair]

We don't know. I have great reservations and concerns about the wholesale selling off of football clubs to opportunists but have to say that if we were going to sold to such a person MM seemed as good as any.

The result was a feeling of excitement and expectation for me just as much as those who welcomed him as they would a Messiah.

Now I feel a sense of frustration. I have heard and seen nothing since the takeover which has justified that excitement. Quite the contrary. I've heard about the end of young and hungry and I've seen the grim visual effect of replacing youth with experience.

I've become sick of hearing about Hendry going here, Jeffers there, Lupoli down the road and then seeing the sort of player who turns up on our doorstep.

Looking at MM's approach at Portsmouth I honestly thought we might at long last get someone at the top of our club who felt the same way.

But what's the point in the owner wanting exciting footballers if RK seems to want something else and, sadly, I have yet to see any evidence that Kelly will ever be anything like Keegan. Even if he had exciting players I think he'd stiffle them in some torrid system.

I still remember Babylon telling me about RK's time with Blackburn youth and presumed he meant that Kelly was an attacker. But it's easy to attack when the results don't really matter - a bit like Beaglehole here.

What I want is someone who sets their own trends with the first team, who is prepared to lead rather than follow, who will put Leicester's name up in coloured lights and brings back a sense of carnival and who makes us get buzzing at the prospect of matchday once more.

Someone who cares as much about the means as the end.

I want someone flamboyant rather than austere, expressive rather than functional, an artist rather than a labourer. Football IS about entertainment as well as winning. Look at Newcastle first half last night.

MM might take us there eventually. He's a focused guy. I even retain some faith in him. But nothing said and done so far confirms the logic of that feeling. You just cling on to it.

Chill Winston!

Let's see what happens now he's officially in charge. I think things could get very interesting over the coming weeks and months. He's just settling in, but now he's offically the big cheese. I expect he'll be stamping his authority fairly quickly and Rob won't be here for long.

[Babylon]

We don't know. I have great reservations and concerns about the wholesale selling off of football clubs to opportunists but have to say that if we were going to sold to such a person MM seemed as good as any.

The result was a feeling of excitement and expectation for me just as much as those who welcomed him as they would a Messiah.

Now I feel a sense of frustration. I have heard and seen nothing since the takeover which has justified that excitement. Quite the contrary. I've heard about the end of young and hungry and I've seen the grim visual effect of replacing youth with experience.

I've become sick of hearing about Hendry going here, Jeffers there, Lupoli down the road and then seeing the sort of player who turns up on our doorstep.

Looking at MM's approach at Portsmouth I honestly thought we might at long last get someone at the top of our club who felt the same way.

But what's the point in the owner wanting exciting footballers if RK seems to want something else and, sadly, I have yet to see any evidence that Kelly will ever be anything like Keegan. Even if he had exciting players I think he'd stiffle them in some torrid system.

I still remember Babylon telling me about RK's time with Blackburn youth and presumed he meant that Kelly was an attacker. But it's easy to attack when the results don't really matter - a bit like Beaglehole here.

What I want is someone who sets their own trends with the first team, who is prepared to lead rather than follow, who will put Leicester's name up in coloured lights and brings back a sense of carnival and who makes us get buzzing at the prospect of matchday once more.

Someone who cares as much about the means as the end.

I want someone flamboyant rather than austere, expressive rather than functional, an artist rather than a labourer. Football IS about entertainment as well as winning. Look at Newcastle first half last night.

MM might take us there eventually. He's a focused guy. I even retain some faith in him. But nothing said and done so far confirms the logic of that feeling. You just cling on to it.

Don't want much then.

"But it's easy to attack when the results don't really matter - a bit like Beaglehole here."

Which is exactly what most of us were trying to say when you were droaning on about Beaglehole becoming manager. I wasn't saying Kelly WILL attack... I was saying he DID attack when he was youth manager, because it didn't matter. My argument was not FOR kelly it was AGAINST Beaghole.

As for having done nothing yet... jesus christ Thrac he has been here 5 minutes. You don't know what players we have tried to get, the facts are at the minute Premier Clubs are unwilling to let go of anyone!!! In the summer is a different matter as it all starts again and players we fancy might become available.

"Hendry going here, Jeffers there, Lupoli down the road and then seeing the sort of player who turns up on our doorstep"

Have you forgotton that we had no money? We couldn't afford one of them, all we can afford is youngsters with limited talent (Yeates), Championship reserve wingers (Welsh & Lombard (sp)) or Ancient Strikers (Horsfield).

"Look at Newcastle first half last night." Yeah the multi million pound squad whos striker is worth more than MM bought us for.

[Thracian]

Don't want much then.

"But it's easy to attack when the results don't really matter - a bit like Beaglehole here."

Which is exactly what most of us were trying to say when you were droaning on about Beaglehole becoming manager. I wasn't saying Kelly WILL attack... I was saying he DID attack when he was youth manager, because it didn't matter. My argument was not FOR kelly it was AGAINST Beaghole.

As for having done nothing yet... jesus christ Thrac he has been here 5 minutes. You don't know what players we have tried to get, the facts are at the minute Premier Clubs are unwilling to let go of anyone!!! In the summer is a different matter as it all starts again and players we fancy might become available.

"Hendry going here, Jeffers there, Lupoli down the road and then seeing the sort of player who turns up on our doorstep"

Have you forgotton that we had no money? We couldn't afford one of them, all we can afford is youngsters with limited talent (Yeates), Championship reserve wingers (Welsh & Lombard (sp)) or Ancient Strikers (Horsfield).

"Look at Newcastle first half last night." Yeah the multi million pound squad whos striker is worth more than MM bought us for.

I don't see the argument against Beaglehole at all. Neither you nor I know whether he would take the same philosophy from the youth team to the first team. All we know is that Kelly hasn't.

I've not forgotten we had no money but if you recall, I was urging Kelly to develop our team as early as last April and he should have sold people to give himself some flexibility.

Of course it might have been unpopular. Fans never like to see good players sold. But in the end its the quality of replacements that counts. And the loan system was no more closed to Leicester than anyone else.

If you want something enough you do what it takes to get it.

As for Newcastle my point had nothing to do with the cost of their squad but about the efforvescent way they played.

We have perfectly good strikers on our books for the level we're at. We just don't use them or enough of them at once.

[Ric Flair]

I don't see the argument against Beaglehole at all. Neither you nor I know whether he would take the same philosophy from the youth team to the first team. All we know is that Kelly hasn't.

I've not forgotten we had no money but if you recall, I was urging Kelly to develop our team as early as last April and he should have sold people to give himself some flexibility.

Of course it might have been unpopular. Fans never like to see good players sold. But in the end its the quality of replacements that counts. And the loan system was no more closed to Leicester than anyone else.

If you want something enough you do what it takes to get it.

As for Newcastle my point had nothing to do with the cost of their squad but about the efforvescent way they played.

We have perfectly good strikers on our books for the level we're at. We just don't use them or enough of them at once.

I agree. I said this yesterday. Kelly has moaned that he hadn't got any money, but he knew that all along. He knew we had one or two young players we could cash in on to then use the money to strengthen in other areas. He chose not to sell and therefore put pressure on himself to get the best out of the players he had. Which he hasn't done, especially with the younger players like Stearman and Fryatt.

[Babylon]

Have you both forgotton the fact we were going to have to sell to stay afloat before MM came in? If we had sold anyone the chances are most of the money would have gone towards lowering our debt.

It's very easy to say these things without knowing the the bigger picture. Maybe the bid for Stearman was 300k upfront and 700k over the next 3 years.. what good would that have done? And as far as we know that was the only bid we received for any player!

[Geo V]

Have you both forgotton the fact we were going to have to sell to stay afloat before MM came in? If we had sold anyone the chances are most of the money would have gone towards lowering our debt.

It's very easy to say these things without knowing the the bigger picture. Maybe the bid for Stearman was 300k upfront and 700k over the next 3 years.. what good would that have done? And as far as we know that was the only bid we received for any player!

Thats true enough. People love to jump to conclusions.

Another thing is that it is almost impossible to predict what is going to happen to young players season after season. Some need time to make it whilst others never make it. Im sure Matty Piper thought his career would be a great deal different to the way it has gone. Not many would have thought that Stearmans career would have gone backwards. Had he had a stormer and been seen as the best RB in the division worth £5m people would have come out and said "I told you so"!!

[Babylon]

I don't see the argument against Beaglehole at all. Neither you nor I know whether he would take the same philosophy from the youth team to the first team. All we know is that Kelly hasn't.

The argument is "it's easy to go for it when there is nothing to play for" as you said.

As for Newcastle my point had nothing to do with the cost of their squad but about the efforvescent way they played.

You should watch them a bit more because I can tell you it's not always like that. Having multi million pound players allows you to play in an efforvescent way because they have the talent.

You say we the players for it, but i'm yet to actually see that these wonderful players are capable of it in the last 2 years here or for any other club AT THIS LEVEL!!

[Babylon]

Thats true enough. People love to jump to conclusions.

Another thing is that it is almost impossible to predict what is going to happen to young players season after season. Some need time to make it whilst others never make it. Im sure Matty Piper thought his career would be a great deal different to the way it has gone. Not many would have thought that Stearmans career would have gone backwards. Had he had a stormer and been seen as the best RB in the division worth £5m people would have come out and said "I told you so"!!

Exactly, Hindsight is a wonderful thing.

[Fox in a Box]

Hell on an Apple Cart ...........but via the premiership hopefully...

[Daggers]

I want peace and love.

(Maybe a bit more of the loving than the peace...and then only off lovely ladies)

[Ric Flair]

Have you both forgotton the fact we were going to have to sell to stay afloat before MM came in? If we had sold anyone the chances are most of the money would have gone towards lowering our debt.

It's very easy to say these things without knowing the the bigger picture. Maybe the bid for Stearman was 300k upfront and 700k over the next 3 years.. what good would that have done? And as far as we know that was the only bid we received for any player!

If the club were under pressure to sell players to pay off the debt immediately then why didn't that happen in the summer? I think the board knew we were close to the limit we could go and thought they'd give it another half a season to a season and hope we were in the promotion hunt. I am sure I read somewhere that Kelly said he could get money to spend if he sold a player or two, but he didn't want to sell anyone. So as far as i'm concerned, that's his perogative. He's entitled to do that if he believes he could get the best out of the current crop of players. He hasn't done that though. This team isn't promotion material but it shouldn't be lurking around the relegation zone either. Thankfully we've picked up in form, but otherwise Kelly has failed miserably.

His plan backfired, if he had one in the first place. How any manager could allow his team to go out against Luton first game of the season that un-fit is beyond me. What the **** was he doing during pre-season?

[Babylon]

If the club were under pressure to sell players to pay off the debt immediately then why didn't that happen in the summer?

Because as you say they knew if things weren't going well they would try and sell at xmas.

Look the bid for Stearman was on deadline day I believe, which would have given little time to buy anyone. So it would of had to be loan players! If things still went wrong we would have paid out a chunk of money on loan players wages and would have nothing to show for it. The asset would be gone so he couldn't be sold to clear debt later in the season and the loan players go back to their clubs.

You can't just force clubs to buy our players. If clubs bid at the last minute i'd expect the club to say no unless it's silly money (Connolly). Had the bid been at the beginning at the summer then it could have been a different story completely.

How any manager could allow his team to go out against Luton first game of the season that un-fit is beyond me. What the **** was he doing during pre-season?

That is a completely different argument and one I wouldn't argue against.

[davieG]

From the OS

Mandaric Deal Complete

Milan Mandaric was today confirmed as the Executive Chairman of Leicester City Football Club.

Mandaric takes full control of the Foxes following an EGM to complete the formalities of the transfer of ownership.

And the new owner says he will now be concentrating all of his efforts on brining success back to the club once again.

He said: "It has taken a very long time but now we are going to be moving forward and I realise that the pressure is now on me to make this club a success.

"I want to look ahead and I will be concentrating on the playing side because that is always the most important.

"There will be decisions to be made later, on various issues on the commercial side and management structures.

"But the biggest priority is helping to strengthen the team because everything follows on from success on the field. The players have shown a real spirit and we must now continue our push forward.

"Right now, we need a couple of more wins to be sure of our safety.

"But I think we look all right in that respect and we are looking ahead already to what we can do in the summer.

"The main plans now are for next season, when we hope to be competing for promotion with some new players coming in. But that is for the future.

"I am delighted to be finally in charge here. I have had great support from everybody, especially the fans and also the shareholders, who have shown real unselfishness and dedication to the club, and I am determined to succeed for them."

[Thracian]

I want peace and love.

(Maybe a bit more of the loving than the peace...and then only off lovely ladies)

Try the internet dating thread.

[Ric Flair]

Because as you say they knew if things weren't going well they would try and sell at xmas.

Look the bid for Stearman was on deadline day I believe, which would have given little time to buy anyone. So it would of had to be loan players! If things still went wrong we would have paid out a chunk of money on loan players wages and would have nothing to show for it. The asset would be gone so he couldn't be sold to clear debt later in the season and the loan players go back to their clubs.

You can't just force clubs to buy our players. If clubs bid at the last minute i'd expect the club to say no unless it's silly money (Connolly). Had the bid been at the beginning at the summer then it could have been a different story completely.

That is a completely different argument and one I wouldn't argue against.

I'm led to believe we had enquiries for both Fryatt and Stearman during the summer, plus Kisnorbo and the clubs were told to do one. Enquiries aren't actual bids, but they are as good as them in most cases. We've had bids for Stearman turned down before, Tim Davies admitted that and i'm sure it was revealed that they were a seven figure sum.

Either way, i'm perhaps being a bit harsh. Hindisght plays a big part in this, but it has been proven that to succeed in this league in the position a club like ours was in. You have to sell to buy, like Watford and Preston have done successfully.