This season declared a write off

[Chandler]

So one of our jolly posting chums on another thread has declared (to general agreement) that he has written this season off.

This relaxed attitude is due in part, no doubt to our cup run. Of course, if this streak is abruptly halted in March, this approach may change. Just as well for Levein though, that we have this little diversion.

Just as well, because the boneheads have conveniently forgotten why they wanted Adams out. What was the reason? Was it to salvage what was left of the season by any chance? And what would such a salvage operation entail? Let me enlighten you.

We were installed as pre season favourites for the Championship title by William Hill (rather ironically when we signed Connolly). The mutterings on the boards when Adams left was that 'we could now make a play-off place.' This talk intensified when we managed two wins on the spin, Plymouth and Leeds (with 100% of Adams 'useless' squad by the way) early on under Levein.

Since then the house has started to slide off its foundations and is now hanging precariously over the cliff. This, in spite of a clear out and bringing new players in.

Of course, it is the boneheads expectations that have changed but they won't admit it. They say wait until Adams has had a full pre-season. Fair enough (but its 1-0 to me)

Personally speaking, I would rather not wait for our first season outside the top two divisions in our history...

[Craig]

#### Off.

[spirefox]

As the late great Peter Cook once said "You provocative F'cker !"

[Matt]

#### Off.

71193[/snapback]

Don't wanna big arguement over this Craig but your in abit of a bad mood today ain't you? Whats up with you?

[MADLEVEIN]

So one of our jolly posting chums on another thread has declared (to general agreement) that he has written this season off.

This relaxed attitude is due in part, no doubt to our cup run. Of course, if this streak is abruptly halted in March, this approach may change. Just as well for Levein though, that we have this little diversion.

Just as well, because the boneheads have conveniently forgotten why they wanted Adams out. What was the reason? Was it to salvage what was left of the season by any chance? And what would such a salvage operation entail? Let me enlighten you.

We were installed as pre season favourites for the Championship title by William Hill (rather ironically when we signed Connolly). The mutterings on the boards when Adams left was that 'we could now make a play-off place.' This talk intensified when we managed two wins on the spin, Plymouth and Leeds (with 100% of Adams 'useless' squad by the way) early on under Levein.

Since then the house has started to slide off its foundations and is now hanging precariously over the cliff. This, in spite of a clear out and bringing new players in.

Of course, it is the boneheads expectations that have changed but they won't admit it. They say wait until Adams has had a full pre-season. Fair enough (but its 1-0 to me)

Personally speaking, I would rather not wait for our first season outside the top two divisions in our history...

71191[/snapback]

are you taking drugs ??

[Babylon]

So one of our jolly posting chums on another thread has declared (to general agreement) that he has written this season off.

This relaxed attitude is due in part, no doubt to our cup run. Of course, if this streak is abruptly halted in March, this approach may change. Just as well for Levein though, that we have this little diversion.

Just as well, because the boneheads have conveniently forgotten why they wanted Adams out. What was the reason? Was it to salvage what was left of the season by any chance? And what would such a salvage operation entail? Let me enlighten you.

We were installed as pre season favourites for the Championship title by William Hill (rather ironically when we signed Connolly). The mutterings on the boards when Adams left was that 'we could now make a play-off place.' This talk intensified when we managed two wins on the spin, Plymouth and Leeds (with 100% of Adams 'useless' squad by the way) early on under Levein.

Since then the house has started to slide off its foundations and is now hanging precariously over the cliff. This, in spite of a clear out and bringing new players in.

Of course, it is the boneheads expectations that have changed but they won't admit it. They say wait until Adams has had a full pre-season. Fair enough (but its 1-0 to me)

Personally speaking, I would rather not wait for our first season outside the top two divisions in our history...

71191[/snapback]

Obviously you haven't been to many games. If you had you would have noticed the major improvement in performance, attitude and style of play. Yes, it's results at the end of the day that matter, but the way you go about getting those results is also a major factor.

Under Adams we played awful football, with no effort from any of the players. This in the end was his undoing not the results. Had the team been going about things in the right manner, I believe the fans wouldn't have turned on him and he would still be here now!

I believe CL is going about things in the right way to start getting the results our drastically improved performances have merited. He is also laying foundations for the future of the club by bringing in young, hungry and talanted players.

Your posts really are pathetic mate. Don't you think it is rather sad, that the only fun you have in your life, is to sit their with your pipe and slippers. Strokeing your COCK-er spaniel and posting things on football forums hopeing you will wind someone up.

Oh dear.... how sad.

[Jonbluefox9]

Chandler, why don't you just accept that Micky Adams was no longer up to the job? He even said so himself and that's why he resigned after two months of the season. When he comes back to Filbert Way, I won't boo him or cheer him. I'll politely clap him for what he attempted to do under strict financial restrictions but I don't see the need to continually back him when he's moved on. You seem to be enjoying seeing 'your' club struggling in the second tier of English football because you feel it's proving you right. I can't see why any supporter would do that. As Micky himself used to say 'Micky Adams is only a custodian of this club. It will remain long after I've left' so forget about him and concentrate on 'supporting' the club.

[dan_84]

Obviously you haven't been to many games. If you had you would have noticed the major improvement in performance, attitude and style of play. Yes, it's results at the end of the day that matter, but the way you go about getting those results is also a major factor.

Under Adams we played awful football, with no effort from any of the players. This in the end was his undoing not the results. Had the team been going about things in the right manner, I believe the fans wouldn't have turned on him and he would still be here now!

I believe CL is going about things in the right way to start getting the results our drastically improved performances have merited. He is also laying foundations for the future of the club by bringing in young, hungry and talanted players.

Your posts really are pathetic mate. Don't you think it is rather sad, that the only fun you have in your life, is to sit their with your pipe and slippers. Strokeing your COCK-er spaniel and posting things on football forums hopeing you will wind someone up.

Oh dear.... how sad.

AGREED!

[MON]

So one of our jolly posting chums on another thread has declared (to general agreement) that he has written this season off.

This relaxed attitude is due in part, no doubt to our cup run. Of course, if this streak is abruptly halted in March, this approach may change. Just as well for Levein though, that we have this little diversion.

Just as well, because the boneheads have conveniently forgotten why they wanted Adams out. What was the reason? Was it to salvage what was left of the season by any chance? And what would such a salvage operation entail? Let me enlighten you.

We were installed as pre season favourites for the Championship title by William Hill (rather ironically when we signed Connolly). The mutterings on the boards when Adams left was that 'we could now make a play-off place.' This talk intensified when we managed two wins on the spin, Plymouth and Leeds (with 100% of Adams 'useless' squad by the way) early on under Levein.

Since then the house has started to slide off its foundations and is now hanging precariously over the cliff. This, in spite of a clear out and bringing new players in.

Of course, it is the boneheads expectations that have changed but they won't admit it. They say wait until Adams has had a full pre-season. Fair enough (but its 1-0 to me)

Personally speaking, I would rather not wait for our first season outside the top two divisions in our history...

71191[/snapback]

You think we are going down? Rigtho.

I will bet you the £130 i have got saved up at the moment that we do not go down.

[Steven]

You think we are going down? Rigtho.

I will bet you the £130 i have got saved up at the moment that we do not go down. 

71251[/snapback]

You are better off spending it on yourself.

[Who ate all the pies?]

This threads a bit of a write off really isn't it.

All you ever do Chandler is regurgitate the same old stuff, which none of us are interested in hearing, especially for the millionth time!

Why do you always feel the need to prove yourself right (or at least make pathetic atempts to)?

Change the record Chandler, or at least avoid claiming your winning in anyway...no one else is keeping score as they don't see the point, it's time to become the intellegent guy you make out you are.

Anyhow, my main message is stop slagging Levein off and start getting behind the team...you know you want to!

[TrickyTrev]

Chandler you are to this forum what Robert Kilroy Silk is to politics. You only have one point to make, which you insist on making over and over again even though no one is listening. What is worst of all is, like Kilroy, this one point you seem to devote all your time to pushing is flawed at best and complete and utter bollcoks in reality.

Please think of something interesting to say!

[Steven]

Chandler you are to this forum what Robert Kilroy Sil is to politics. You only have one point to make, which you insist on making over and over again even though no one is listening. What is worst of all is, like Kilroy, this one point you seem to devote all your time to pushing is flawed at best and complete and utter bollcoks in reality.

Please think of something interesting to say!

71261[/snapback]

I like the Kilroy-Silk analogy.

[Chandler]

If I'm coming up with the same old stuff that no one is listening too how comes you moronic twats post more nonsense on this thread in a couple of hours than you normally manage in a couple of days?

You imbeciles have absolutely no self awareness. You have no powers of reasoning, all your responses are knee jerk reactions. You have no long term memory. All you can do is run as a herd. You are absolutely terrified of THINKING for yourselves.

But what else can you expect of fickle boneheads?

[Scarby]

If I'm coming up with the same old stuff that no one is listening too how comes you moronic twats post more nonsense on this thread in a couple of hours than you normally manage in a couple of days?

You imbeciles have absolutely no self awareness. You have no powers of reasoning, all your responses are knee jerk reactions. You have no long term memory. All you can do is run as a herd. You are absolutely terrified of THINKING for yourselves.

But what else can you expect of fickle boneheads?

71282[/snapback]

what do you exect people to reply to your posts with when you respond like this.

You bring it on yourself..i have always stuck up for you and sort of seed you side of things.

Grow up and act your age

[TrickyTrev]

If I'm coming up with the same old stuff that no one is listening too how comes you moronic twats post more nonsense on this thread in a couple of hours than you normally manage in a couple of days?

You imbeciles have absolutely no self awareness. You have no powers of reasoning, all your responses are knee jerk reactions. You have no long term memory. All you can do is run as a herd. You are absolutely terrified of THINKING for yourselves.

But what else can you expect of fickle boneheads?

71282[/snapback]

You conveniently don't have to reason or REACT to any sort of situation because you forumalted your ONE opinion a few months a go and are now on some sort of cruise control mission where you just repeat that same mesage in as many threads as possible.

By the term 'listen' I meant take into considerationa word what you are saying, I for one just dismiss eberythign your write as an idle and opinionless rant, which typically has more to do with you convincing yourself you are someway superior to us meer mortals than anything to do with football.

You are absolutely terrified of THINKING for yourselves.

Do you think wat you do requires any level of thought, to me it is the height of stupidity to stick one opinion blindly despite what is presented in front of your eyes. Oh an insulting strangers on messageboards, clearly the passtime of the wise and worthy.

[Chandler]

Chandler you are to this forum what Robert Kilroy Silk is to politics. You only have one point to make, which you insist on making over and over again even though no one is listening. What is worst of all is, like Kilroy, this one point you seem to devote all your time to pushing is flawed at best and complete and utter bollcoks in reality.

Please think of something interesting to say!

71261[/snapback]

Lets wait for the referendum on the EU constitution then eh? Then we'll see how much the British people agree with Kilroy or not. Only a sad deluded fool could ever think that the EU is any thing other than a bureaucratic, corrupt, talking shop.

And if no one was listening to Kilroy how comes he topped the poll here in the Euro elections?

Yet another example of a fickle bonehead failing to think before he speaks his drivel.

Twat.

[TrickyTrev]

Chandler you are to this forum what Robert Kilroy Silk is to politics. You only have one point to make, which you insist on making over and over again even though no one is listening. What is worst of all is, like Kilroy, this one point you seem to devote all your time to pushing is flawed at best and complete and utter bollcoks in reality.

Please think of something interesting to say!

71261[/snapback]

Lets wait for the referendum on the EU constitution then eh? Then we'll see how much the British people agree with Kilroy or not. Only a sad deluded fool could ever think that the EU is any thing other than a bureaucratic, corrupt, talking shop.

And if no one was listening to Kilroy how comes he topped the poll here in the Euro elections?

Yet another example of a fickle bonehead failing to think before he speaks his drivel.

Twat.

71288[/snapback]

(No one else read this unless you are interesting in Politics, it is goign to be particuarly boring but I just want to show Chandler what an obnoxious being he is to presume superiority and to brand us all boneheads)

Well Lets get political shall we, because it appears to me you have committed oen of the sins you like to spend your life preaching against and following what you are told!

Just because Rupert Murdoch's The Scum and the associated Press say that the EU is an expensive talkshop, presumably because xenophobia sells papers in this country, does not mean its true. Persoannly I value trade links, not wanting the economy to go tits up (how silly and naive of me) and not to mention European agreement on peace and Human Rights.

Now does anyone listen to Kilroy Silk, a one issue politician who's career is in tatters and the laughing stock of British politics. Well he may have convince Johnny 'I hate foreigners' Bloggs and Paul 'xenophob' Smith that EU is a bad idea but all three major political parties support the EU in some form, as do all serious newspapers (no I don't count the SCUM or Daily Hate mail as serious newspapers).

As for a vote on the constitution, it isn't going to happen. Tony has been clever enough to commit himself to such a late date that one other country WILL vote against it before it gets anywhere near the Great British public.

Now that was a waste of 15 minutues of my life, but hopefully I may have suceeding in making you realise that you need to think about issues just as much as everyone else on this board and that you are no voice of enlightentment. Just a patronising and arrogant cretin with nothing interesting to say.

[Katy]

Chandler you are to this forum what Robert Kilroy Silk is to politics. You only have one point to make, which you insist on making over and over again even though no one is listening. What is worst of all is, like Kilroy, this one point you seem to devote all your time to pushing is flawed at best and complete and utter bollcoks in reality.

Please think of something interesting to say!

71261[/snapback]

Lets wait for the referendum on the EU constitution then eh? Then we'll see how much the British people agree with Kilroy or not. Only a sad deluded fool could ever think that the EU is any thing other than a bureaucratic, corrupt, talking shop.

And if no one was listening to Kilroy how comes he topped the poll here in the Euro elections?

Yet another example of a fickle bonehead failing to think before he speaks his drivel.

Twat.

71288[/snapback]

(No one else read this unless you are interesting in Politics, it is goign to be particuarly boring but I just want to show Chandler what an obnoxious being he is to presume superiority and to brand us all boneheads)

Well Lets get political shall we, because it appears to me you have committed oen of the sins you like to spend your life preaching against and following what you are told!

Just because Rupert Murdoch's The Scum and the associated Press say that the EU is an expensive talkshop, presumably because xenophobia sells papers in this country, does not mean its true. Persoannly I value trade links, not wanting the economy to go tits up (how silly and naive of me) and not to mention European agreement on peace and Human Rights.

Now does anyone listen to Kilroy Silk, a one issue politician who's career is in tatters and the laughing stock of British politics. Well he may have convince Johnny 'I hate foreigners' Bloggs and Paul 'xenophob' Smith that EU is a bad idea but all three major political parties support the EU in some form, as do all serious newspapers (no I don't count the SCUM or Daily Hate mail as serious newspapers).

As for a vote on the constitution, it isn't going to happen. Tony has been clever enough to commit himself to such a late date that one other country WILL vote against it before it gets anywhere near the Great British public.

Now that was a waste of 15 minutues of my life, but hopefully I may have suceeding in making you realise that you need to think about issues just as much as everyone else on this board and that you are no voice of enlightentment. Just a patronising and arrogant cretin with nothing interesting to say.

71294[/snapback]

Chandler, why say one word when you say fifteen hundred eh!

[Chandler]

Chandler you are to this forum what Robert Kilroy Silk is to politics. You only have one point to make, which you insist on making over and over again even though no one is listening. What is worst of all is, like Kilroy, this one point you seem to devote all your time to pushing is flawed at best and complete and utter bollcoks in reality.

Please think of something interesting to say!

71261[/snapback]

Lets wait for the referendum on the EU constitution then eh? Then we'll see how much the British people agree with Kilroy or not. Only a sad deluded fool could ever think that the EU is any thing other than a bureaucratic, corrupt, talking shop.

And if no one was listening to Kilroy how comes he topped the poll here in the Euro elections?

Yet another example of a fickle bonehead failing to think before he speaks his drivel.

Twat.

71288[/snapback]

(No one else read this unless you are interesting in Politics, it is goign to be particuarly boring but I just want to show Chandler what an obnoxious being he is to presume superiority and to brand us all boneheads)

Well Lets get political shall we, because it appears to me you have committed oen of the sins you like to spend your life preaching against and following what you are told!

Just because Rupert Murdoch's The Scum and the associated Press say that the EU is an expensive talkshop, presumably because xenophobia sells papers in this country, does not mean its true. Persoannly I value trade links, not wanting the economy to go tits up (how silly and naive of me) and not to mention European agreement on peace and Human Rights.

Now does anyone listen to Kilroy Silk, a one issue politician who's career is in tatters and the laughing stock of British politics. Well he may have convince Johnny 'I hate foreigners' Bloggs and Paul 'xenophob' Smith that EU is a bad idea but all three major political parties support the EU in some form, as do all serious newspapers (no I don't count the SCUM or Daily Hate mail as serious newspapers).

As for a vote on the constitution, it isn't going to happen. Tony has been clever enough to commit himself to such a late date that one other country WILL vote against it before it gets anywhere near the Great British public.

Now that was a waste of 15 minutues of my life, but hopefully I may have suceeding in making you realise that you need to think about issues just as much as everyone else on this board and that you are no voice of enlightentment. Just a patronising and arrogant cretin with nothing interesting to say.

71294[/snapback]

You are way out of your depth sonny. Your understanding of the EU and what it's function is is incredibly superficial. Let me tell you it has nothing to do with peace or human rights. You see politics in terms of simplistic slogans because you have little or no understanding of economics and power. That is why you characterise Euro scepticism as 'xenophobia.' This is how Europhilia is sold to gullible, middle class liberals - because they are terrifed of being branded 'racists.'

Once again, like your fickle bonehead friends, you post in haste without thinking things through. If the EU was the ideal to which we should all subscribe why are so many 'mainland Europeans' uncertain about its consititution? Why has Blair to resort to his usual tricks to avoid the verdict of the people and keep himself in power?

Could it just be that people here and on the continent see through the lies? Weren't we supposed to be doomed outside the Euro? Instead we have a better economy than all the major nations in the Eurozone.

What in reality is Europe? I 'll tell you what it is. A tiny elite of Franco German technocrats and their allies run by remote from the Elysee and the Reichstag. Terrified. Terrified because slowly but surely their power is waning. Their bloated unreformed economies can't change to make them super competitive. Europe is being squeezed between the US and Asia. It's becoming irrelevant.

Europe (lets be honest - France) wants us in to help bail them out. But they really hate us, they're the real racists. They hate Anglo Saxonism (UK, North America, Australasia) which they see as the 'enemy' because the see our culture and language replacing their own. And they have a very big hang up about that. So they want to cut us off from wider Anglo Saxon influences.

Above all Europe hates the US. That's why it is making so much trouble for it (in collusion with Russia and China). Far from wanting peace, Europe wants a power struggle with the US. And far from wanting human rights they want to keep shitty, corrupt dictators in power throughout the third world.

You and your shitty 'not in my namers' marched in your millions to keep a fecker in power who murdered hundreds of thousands of his own countrymen. Why? To protect French, Russian and German interests.

On the other hand, when a rather large cheese eating nation trains and arms hoodlums to murder 750,000 people and then helps them to get away nothing is said by anyone for ten years.

Before you lecture anyone on peace, human rights and xenophobia TT put away your silly left wing comics (Iny and Grauniad) and start to see beyond these Orwellian slogans.

[Chandler]

Chandler you are to this forum what Robert Kilroy Silk is to politics. You only have one point to make, which you insist on making over and over again even though no one is listening. What is worst of all is, like Kilroy, this one point you seem to devote all your time to pushing is flawed at best and complete and utter bollcoks in reality.

Please think of something interesting to say!

71261[/snapback]

Lets wait for the referendum on the EU constitution then eh? Then we'll see how much the British people agree with Kilroy or not. Only a sad deluded fool could ever think that the EU is any thing other than a bureaucratic, corrupt, talking shop.

And if no one was listening to Kilroy how comes he topped the poll here in the Euro elections?

Yet another example of a fickle bonehead failing to think before he speaks his drivel.

Twat.

71288[/snapback]

(No one else read this unless you are interesting in Politics, it is goign to be particuarly boring but I just want to show Chandler what an obnoxious being he is to presume superiority and to brand us all boneheads)

Well Lets get political shall we, because it appears to me you have committed oen of the sins you like to spend your life preaching against and following what you are told!

Just because Rupert Murdoch's The Scum and the associated Press say that the EU is an expensive talkshop, presumably because xenophobia sells papers in this country, does not mean its true. Persoannly I value trade links, not wanting the economy to go tits up (how silly and naive of me) and not to mention European agreement on peace and Human Rights.

Now does anyone listen to Kilroy Silk, a one issue politician who's career is in tatters and the laughing stock of British politics. Well he may have convince Johnny 'I hate foreigners' Bloggs and Paul 'xenophob' Smith that EU is a bad idea but all three major political parties support the EU in some form, as do all serious newspapers (no I don't count the SCUM or Daily Hate mail as serious newspapers).

As for a vote on the constitution, it isn't going to happen. Tony has been clever enough to commit himself to such a late date that one other country WILL vote against it before it gets anywhere near the Great British public.

Now that was a waste of 15 minutues of my life, but hopefully I may have suceeding in making you realise that you need to think about issues just as much as everyone else on this board and that you are no voice of enlightentment. Just a patronising and arrogant cretin with nothing interesting to say.

71294[/snapback]

Chandler, why say one word when you say fifteen hundred eh!

71310[/snapback]

If you could be bothered to read Katy you would see THEY ARE NOT MY WORDS.

[Katy]

Chandler you are to this forum what Robert Kilroy Silk is to politics. You only have one point to make, which you insist on making over and over again even though no one is listening. What is worst of all is, like Kilroy, this one point you seem to devote all your time to pushing is flawed at best and complete and utter bollcoks in reality.

Please think of something interesting to say!

71261[/snapback]

Lets wait for the referendum on the EU constitution then eh? Then we'll see how much the British people agree with Kilroy or not. Only a sad deluded fool could ever think that the EU is any thing other than a bureaucratic, corrupt, talking shop.

And if no one was listening to Kilroy how comes he topped the poll here in the Euro elections?

Yet another example of a fickle bonehead failing to think before he speaks his drivel.

Twat.

71288[/snapback]

(No one else read this unless you are interesting in Politics, it is goign to be particuarly boring but I just want to show Chandler what an obnoxious being he is to presume superiority and to brand us all boneheads)

Well Lets get political shall we, because it appears to me you have committed oen of the sins you like to spend your life preaching against and following what you are told!

Just because Rupert Murdoch's The Scum and the associated Press say that the EU is an expensive talkshop, presumably because xenophobia sells papers in this country, does not mean its true. Persoannly I value trade links, not wanting the economy to go tits up (how silly and naive of me) and not to mention European agreement on peace and Human Rights.

Now does anyone listen to Kilroy Silk, a one issue politician who's career is in tatters and the laughing stock of British politics. Well he may have convince Johnny 'I hate foreigners' Bloggs and Paul 'xenophob' Smith that EU is a bad idea but all three major political parties support the EU in some form, as do all serious newspapers (no I don't count the SCUM or Daily Hate mail as serious newspapers).

As for a vote on the constitution, it isn't going to happen. Tony has been clever enough to commit himself to such a late date that one other country WILL vote against it before it gets anywhere near the Great British public.

Now that was a waste of 15 minutues of my life, but hopefully I may have suceeding in making you realise that you need to think about issues just as much as everyone else on this board and that you are no voice of enlightentment. Just a patronising and arrogant cretin with nothing interesting to say.

71294[/snapback]

You are way out of your depth sonny. Your understanding of the EU and what it's function is is incredibly superficial. Let me tell you it has nothing to do with peace or human rights. You see politics in terms of simplistic slogans because you have little or no understanding of economics and power. That is why you characterise Euro scepticism as 'xenophobia.' This is how Europhilia is sold to gullible, middle class liberals - because they are terrifed of being branded 'racists.'

Once again, like your fickle bonehead friends, you post in haste without thinking things through. If the EU was the ideal to which we should all subscribe why are so many 'mainland Europeans' uncertain about its consititution? Why has Blair to resort to his usual tricks to avoid the verdict of the people and keep himself in power?

Could it just be that people here and on the continent see through the lies? Weren't we supposed to be doomed outside the Euro? Instead we have a better economy than all the major nations in the Eurozone.

What in reality is Europe? I 'll tell you what it is. A tiny elite of Franco German technocrats and their allies run by remote from the Elysee and the Reichstag. Terrified. Terrified because slowly but surely their power is waning. Their bloated unreformed economies can't change to make them super competitive. Europe is being squeezed between the US and Asia. It's becoming irrelevant.

Europe (lets be honest - France) wants us in to help bail them out. But they really hate us, they're the real racists. They hate Anglo Saxonism (UK, North America, Australasia) which they see as the 'enemy' because the see our culture and language replacing their own. And they have a very big hang up about that. So they want to cut us off from wider Anglo Saxon influences.

Above all Europe hates the US. That's why it is making so much trouble for it (in collusion with Russia and China). Far from wanting peace, Europe wants a power struggle with the US. And far from wanting human rights they want to keep shitty, corrupt dictators in power throughout the third world.

You and your shitty 'not in my namers' marched in your millions to keep a fecker in power who murdered hundreds of thousands of his own countrymen. Why? To protect French, Russian and German interests.

On the other hand, when a rather large cheese eating nation trains and arms hoodlums to murder 750,000 people and then helps them to get away nothing is said by anyone for ten years.

Before you lecture anyone on peace, human rights and xenophobia TT put away your silly left wing comics (Iny and Grauniad) and start to see beyond these Orwellian slogans.

71347[/snapback]

Just how boring is the phrase 'fickle bonesheads' now? Even in a post which has no relevance to football as such you still managed to pop it in - full marks!

[MADLEVEIN]

chandler could you please put your phone number on your next witty post so i can ring you up and have a chat with you as i am suffering with insommnia

[Katy]

Chandler you are to this forum what Robert Kilroy Silk is to politics. You only have one point to make, which you insist on making over and over again even though no one is listening. What is worst of all is, like Kilroy, this one point you seem to devote all your time to pushing is flawed at best and complete and utter bollcoks in reality.

Please think of something interesting to say!

71261[/snapback]

Lets wait for the referendum on the EU constitution then eh? Then we'll see how much the British people agree with Kilroy or not. Only a sad deluded fool could ever think that the EU is any thing other than a bureaucratic, corrupt, talking shop.

And if no one was listening to Kilroy how comes he topped the poll here in the Euro elections?

Yet another example of a fickle bonehead failing to think before he speaks his drivel.

Twat.

71288[/snapback]

(No one else read this unless you are interesting in Politics, it is goign to be particuarly boring but I just want to show Chandler what an obnoxious being he is to presume superiority and to brand us all boneheads)

Well Lets get political shall we, because it appears to me you have committed oen of the sins you like to spend your life preaching against and following what you are told!

Just because Rupert Murdoch's The Scum and the associated Press say that the EU is an expensive talkshop, presumably because xenophobia sells papers in this country, does not mean its true. Persoannly I value trade links, not wanting the economy to go tits up (how silly and naive of me) and not to mention European agreement on peace and Human Rights.

Now does anyone listen to Kilroy Silk, a one issue politician who's career is in tatters and the laughing stock of British politics. Well he may have convince Johnny 'I hate foreigners' Bloggs and Paul 'xenophob' Smith that EU is a bad idea but all three major political parties support the EU in some form, as do all serious newspapers (no I don't count the SCUM or Daily Hate mail as serious newspapers).

As for a vote on the constitution, it isn't going to happen. Tony has been clever enough to commit himself to such a late date that one other country WILL vote against it before it gets anywhere near the Great British public.

Now that was a waste of 15 minutues of my life, but hopefully I may have suceeding in making you realise that you need to think about issues just as much as everyone else on this board and that you are no voice of enlightentment. Just a patronising and arrogant cretin with nothing interesting to say.

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Chandler, why say one word when you say fifteen hundred eh!

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If you could be bothered to read Katy you would see THEY ARE NOT MY WORDS.

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I believed you coined the phrase 'fickle bonehead' and as for bothering to read your posts - you are joking right?

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Right before you accuse me of being out of my depth can you start putting some substance into your writing as opossed to aload of stlyish ramblings that amount to you believing that anyone who doesn't oppose the EU in all forms is naive to the fact that French and German people hate the English. What you base this on is a mystery, presumably too complicated for a simple mind like myself to understand. <_<

If the EU was the ideal to which we should all subscribe why are so many 'mainland Europeans' uncertain about its consititution? Why has Blair to resort to his usual tricks to avoid the verdict of the people and keep himself in power?

Well there is a difference between supporting the constitution being put forward, and the UKIP position neing put forward of total withdrawal from the EU. I have not stated a preference to the constitution, only said that we won't have to vote on it as it won't get to us. I stick by the fact that any political position supporting totoal withdrawal is riven by xenopohbia, it would destroy our economy. Don't take my word for it, I'm just a spotty Guardian reader, take the word of the National Institute of Economic and Social Research who seem to think it would cost our economy a permanent cost of £23 billion a year. Ofcourse no doubt you are sure you know more than the National Institute of Economic and Social Research, because after all whilst they are busy looking into real statistics and doing proper reaearch you are arguing with teenagers who you think are 'boneheads.' <_<

Let me tell you it has nothing to do with peace or human rights.

Interesting opinion, I am tempted to believe you but I was under the impression we were bound by the European Convention of human rights and that was the basis of the protection of our citizens/subjects rights... that would bethis one.

Other benefits we as citizens get from the EU include workers rights such as the 48 hour working week, annual holiday, a lunch break. Ofcourse they just imposed them upon us because they hate us don't they. Maybe it is some elaborate plan to hurt America in some way??? Maybe you woould care to explain with your oh so detailed knowledge on the subject matter.

Above all Europe hates the US. That's why it is making so much trouble for it (in collusion with Russia and China). Far from wanting peace, Europe wants a power struggle with the US. And far from wanting human rights they want to keep shitty, corrupt dictators in power throughout the third world.

Another intereting one. You see I thought one of the sort fo iniation laws of the EU is that you had to be a democracy and accpet their values on human rights, as laid out by the euopena convention of human rights that slipt your mind. The reason why Turkey is having problems gaining entry, although they are tring to make hte changes. Wait a second isn't that an example of the EU implement free deomocracy in the Middle East through diplomatic methods. umm Yes, and there you were thinking that could only be doen through murder. .

Oh and as for China, Russia and USA, none would be allowed entry intot the EU as they all violate human rights. China and USA through the death penalty and Russia with its closed press. Fine examples of free liberal countries.

My point Chandler is not that we shoukd sign the European Constiution or that we should enter the Euro, I will leave economists to make that decision. It is that you clearly know ab saloutely nothing about what you are talking about. Your insults have no substance and that you are ht eone who is out of his depth, even with me a spotty Gurdian reader not even out of school.