Tatics

[Ikon_Klow]

Evening all.

I went to the game on Saturday and like most of you I was absolutley horrified. What annoyed me the most was Holloway's inability to change the system and adapt to the circumstances. Hull had clearly done their homework and Ollie just looked a little lost. I was also surprised how little he came out to the touchline to try to get the players going.

This is not an Ollie bashing thread. I like the man and I think he has a done a lot of good things to the club but something is clearly very wrong. The team has the players to do very well but tactically they were wrong and they seem to lack organisation and drive.

Hull were basic but they follow the code that always works in the Championship - that being well organised, well motivated and first to the ball on most occasions. It really is that simple!

Tactically, I was really pleased to see Ollie try something new and go for the 3 -5 - 2 formation at WBA. It didn't work on Saturday because Hull were set up right for our system and adapted again when Ollie changed back to 4-4-2. For me, we should have flooded the midfield and gone 4-3-3 to 4-5-1 when in defence. A complete Chelsea rip off but we have the players to make it work and Hull would not have passed through us that easily.

Henderson

Stearman - Kisnorbo - Macca - Mattock

Wesso/Kish (no harm in trying)

Hume (when fit) - Clemence - Oakely - DJ/Hendrie

Howard/Fryatt

A pointless post (I know) but I just wanted to get it off my chest.

Come on Ollie - please get it right!

[Jonbluefox9]

Evening all.

I went to the game on Saturday and like most of you I was absolutley horrified. What annoyed me the most was Holloway's inability to change the system and adapt to the circumstances. Hull had clearly done their homework and Ollie just looked a little lost. I was also surprised how little he came out to the touchline to try to get the players going.

This is not an Ollie bashing thread. I like the man and I think he has a done a lot of good things to the club but something is clearly very wrong. The team has the players to do very well but tactically they were wrong and they seem to lack organisation and drive.

Hull were basic but they follow the code that always works in the Championship - that being well organised, well motivated and first to the ball on most occasions. It really is that simple!

Tactically, I was really pleased to see Ollie try something new and go for the 3 -5 - 2 formation at WBA. It didn't work on Saturday because Hull were set up right for our system and adapted again when Ollie changed back to 4-4-2. For me, we should have flooded the midfield and gone 4-3-3 to 4-5-1 when in defence. A complete Chelsea rip off but we have the players to make it work and Hull would not have passed through us that easily.

Henderson

Stearman - Kisnorbo - Macca - Mattock

Wesso/Kish (no harm in trying)

Hume (when fit) - Clemence - Oakely - DJ/Hendrie

Howard/Fryatt

A pointless post (I know) but I just wanted to get it off my chest.

Come on Ollie - please get it right!

I don't disagree that Ollie makes tactical mistakes but I think we could have played any system yesterday and still lost with those players playing or a very similar set of players playing. Not enough of them were on their games.

Oakley's distribution was as poor as anything I've seen in our midfield over the last few years and that's not a true reflection of his ability, I felt Kisnorbo and McAuley put in below average performances by their standards for whatever reason, Hendrie and Fryatt put themselves about but there was a lack of quality about them both on plenty of occasions and even the introduction of Etuhu added very little as he looked clumsy and off the pace.

It was a poor excuse of a performance with very little discipline technically or in the way in which the players applied themselves. How many bookings yesterday? Half of which were for moaning at the ref. Sloppy stuff all round.

[Fez of Mahrez]

It's the first home game I've missed all season but as soon as I saw he'd put that team out, I was glad I had an excuse to be somewhere else. It may have worked at WBA but that was partially down to the sending-off. It's the same sort of setup that we played in the woefully appalling performances at QPR and Southampton at the start of the year and it was horrible then and it's still horrible now.

Consistency and confidence is the key though. This division is incredible this year. Sheffield United have a chance to make the play-offs now whereas three games ago they looked set for a real relegation battle. No team has run away with it and other than Colchester, there are no dead-set relegation certainties. But with all the winning runs that teams have gone on (Palace, Norwich, Hull), it's disgusting to think we haven't won two in a row all season.

It comes to something when I'm convinced we're going to lose at home to Hull. In previous seasons we've lost to them (Joey wondergoal day apart) but at least we've been expected to win beforehand. We should be where they are with the investment we've had. It sickens me really that we're in the worst position we've been in since Pleat.

Sorry for the general rambling nonsense but I can't comment specifically on the last two games. Back for Scunny next week. Unbelievably big game for us now.

[Mort]

Tactically, I was really pleased to see Ollie try something new and go for the 3 -5 - 2 formation at WBA. It didn't work on Saturday because Hull were set up right for our system and adapted again when Ollie changed back to 4-4-2. For me, we should have flooded the midfield and gone 4-3-3 to 4-5-1 when in defence. A complete Chelsea rip off but we have the players to make it work and Hull would not have passed through us that easily.

Henderson

Stearman - Kisnorbo - Macca - Mattock

Wesso/Kish (no harm in trying)

Hume (when fit) - Clemence - Oakely - DJ/Hendrie

Howard/Fryatt

Was not 3-5-2, it was very much a 5-2-3 formation against WBA, which frankly payed off in large part thanks to WBA going down to 10 then 9 men... didnt work against Hull for a number of reasons, there was no way to resist them in midfield we just invited an away team to pin us back in our own half and dominate possession (and this at Home, in front of our biggest gate of the season!) on top of that we had no real creative out let because the three forwards we did have on the pitch are all exceedingly slow and are not going to pose much of a threat hitting the opposition on the break.

At WBA, I'd have gone with 4-5-1, fight the battle in the middle of the park, have as much of the ball as possible and keep their strikers the hell away from our end of the pitch... Hull, was a game at home to a very different team and what the thinking behind repeating the formation that won against 9 man WBA at the Hawthorns (a totally different sort of game!) was i dont know... the approch to tackle Hull again should have been agressive and emphasised the importance of winning the ball in the middle of the park (which at Home should not be that much trouble - esspeically against a team like Hull which for all their organisation are not technically adept in the way WBA were), frankly all the game needed was a conventional 4-4-2... sadly it seems Ollie (for some bizzare reason) opted for the "you dont change a winning team" mantra and could not have been more wrong.

Against Colchester and Scuny, we can only pray Holloway doesnt opt for the totally negative and wrong headed approch we saw on Saturday!... inviting the kind of pressure Hull were allowed to apply and fielding the same kind of glacial forward line as we did on Saturday would just be plain irresponsible, if you want to win game you have to be able to get the ball and threaten the opposition, in neither of the last two games have we set out to do that from the off.

[Zingari]

tatics ?

i bet he can't even spell the word

[Yaxx]

Evening all.

I went to the game on Saturday and like most of you I was absolutley horrified. What annoyed me the most was Holloway's inability to change the system and adapt to the circumstances. Hull had clearly done their homework and Ollie just looked a little lost. I was also surprised how little he came out to the touchline to try to get the players going.

This is not an Ollie bashing thread. I like the man and I think he has a done a lot of good things to the club but something is clearly very wrong. The team has the players to do very well but tactically they were wrong and they seem to lack organisation and drive.

Hull were basic but they follow the code that always works in the Championship - that being well organised, well motivated and first to the ball on most occasions. It really is that simple!

Tactically, I was really pleased to see Ollie try something new and go for the 3 -5 - 2 formation at WBA. It didn't work on Saturday because Hull were set up right for our system and adapted again when Ollie changed back to 4-4-2. For me, we should have flooded the midfield and gone 4-3-3 to 4-5-1 when in defence. A complete Chelsea rip off but we have the players to make it work and Hull would not have passed through us that easily.

Hull wasn't the only thing that passed straight through us......

[renards]

The team has the players to do very well but tactically they were wrong and they seem to lack organisation and drive.

Can't argue with that.

Nail on the head

[davieG]

tatics ?

i bet he can't even spell the word

I prefer tictacs they leave a better taste in the mouth

[l444ry]

Ian Holloway Wants All Leicester Players Circumcised

Leicester City Manager Ian Holloway is demanding that his full squad of senior players be circumcised before their vital league clash with S****horpe.

The jovial Bristolian issued the ultimatum in an attempt to foster team spirit between his players and to ensure that they all have at least one thing in common before the big match.

"Its important that these lads play as a team. I don't want any drawbacks in my quest to avoid relegation" said Holloway to gathered press. "This is just the tip of the iceberg" continued Holloway "The players need to realise that after this match it won't be long.....until the end of the season."

Some Foxes players though are unhappy with their manager's idea. "I don't see the point" said Jamie Clapham "I mean I do see my point now, but I won't if the gaffer has his way."

Defender Richard Stearman was also worried about the impending operation. "A lot of people say I am a complete Dick. If the boss has his way I won't be anymore, I'll just be a Dick, not a complete one."

Ian Hume who was circumcised last week, says he was tricked by Holloway. "I asked the gaffer that if after I was circumcised I would be able to have sex. He told me I would. It's been a week since I had the op and I still haven't had any. However I hadn't had any before the operation either, that's why I had it. He tricked me. The maggot."

[Ikon_Klow]

tatics ?

i bet he can't even spell the word

Yep - too true - I can't believe it took that long for someone to say something. What can I say? Don't rush your posts! (Tactics!)

[Kilworthfox]

If we sacked IH would it make the players play any different? Well we have sacked enough in the last 4 years and we still finish between mid table and the relegation zone

Back the Manager or shut the fook up

[Zingari]

the hull city fans

"You're getting sacked in the morning."

"You're getting sacked in the morning."

[Ultra]

If we sacked IH would it make the players play any different? Well we have sacked enough in the last 4 years and we still finish between mid table and the relegation zone

Back the Manager or shut the fook up

Well this year may well be different. We could actually finish in the relegation zone.

No matter how much you try to bully folk, Holloway has proved he is out of his depth at this club.

Fact. End of.

[Ikon_Klow]

Well this year may well be different. We could actually finish in the relegation zone.

No matter how much you try to bully folk, Holloway has proved he is out of his depth at this club.

Fact. End of.

I must admit, I am getting very worried! I am still backing Holloway but it is his job to organise and motivate the players and I saw none of that on Saturday. I really hope he sorts it out but how many more chances does he need? Ollie does seem that he is struggling to adopt to the role of not being the under dog.

[Asha]

Ian Holloway Wants All Leicester Players Circumcised

Leicester City Manager Ian Holloway is demanding that his full squad of senior players be circumcised before their vital league clash with S****horpe.

The jovial Bristolian issued the ultimatum in an attempt to foster team spirit between his players and to ensure that they all have at least one thing in common before the big match.

"Its important that these lads play as a team. I don't want any drawbacks in my quest to avoid relegation" said Holloway to gathered press. "This is just the tip of the iceberg" continued Holloway "The players need to realise that after this match it won't be long.....until the end of the season."

Some Foxes players though are unhappy with their manager's idea. "I don't see the point" said Jamie Clapham "I mean I do see my point now, but I won't if the gaffer has his way."

Defender Richard Stearman was also worried about the impending operation. "A lot of people say I am a complete Dick. If the boss has his way I won't be anymore, I'll just be a Dick, not a complete one."

Ian Hume who was circumcised last week, says he was tricked by Holloway. "I asked the gaffer that if after I was circumcised I would be able to have sex. He told me I would. It's been a week since I had the op and I still haven't had any. However I hadn't had any before the operation either, that's why I had it. He tricked me. The maggot."

When he implied he wanted to cut down his squad...

[ibbosuk]

Evening all.

I went to the game on Saturday and like most of you I was absolutley horrified. What annoyed me the most was Holloway's inability to change the system and adapt to the circumstances. Hull had clearly done their homework and Ollie just looked a little lost. I was also surprised how little he came out to the touchline to try to get the players going.

This is not an Ollie bashing thread. I like the man and I think he has a done a lot of good things to the club but something is clearly very wrong. The team has the players to do very well but tactically they were wrong and they seem to lack organisation and drive.

Hull were basic but they follow the code that always works in the Championship - that being well organised, well motivated and first to the ball on most occasions. It really is that simple!

Tactically, I was really pleased to see Ollie try something new and go for the 3 -5 - 2 formation at WBA. It didn't work on Saturday because Hull were set up right for our system and adapted again when Ollie changed back to 4-4-2. For me, we should have flooded the midfield and gone 4-3-3 to 4-5-1 when in defence. A complete Chelsea rip off but we have the players to make it work and Hull would not have passed through us that easily.

Henderson

Stearman - Kisnorbo - Macca - Mattock

Wesso/Kish (no harm in trying)

Hume (when fit) - Clemence - Oakely - DJ/Hendrie

Howard/Fryatt

A pointless post (I know) but I just wanted to get it off my chest.

Come on Ollie - please get it right!

I firmly beleive one of two things must (and will ) happen this week.

1. Holloway is sacked.

or

2. MM states Holloway is staying as manager for the remaing games of the season.

I think its very significant that MM has never back him to the end of the season, only the "Full support" message which actually means nothing as its only in the moment.

After MM meeting with the players and Holloway last week, he must realise that that Holloway has no motivational skills other than the false ones he portrays in the media. I think The time is now right to sack him.

[clazkel]

I question Ollie's tactics sometimes!

Why, why, why, would you play Hayles on the left wing first half who plays well and Fryatt on the right who doesn't play too well as the position doesn't suit him, then second half Hayles (who looked our only hope of creating something first half from the wing) goes up front and Fryatt stays on the wing but switches to the left. Why not keep Hayles on the wing and put Fryatt up front??? Then DJ comes on and Hayles goes on the wing, so DJ can go up front. Why, doesn't he seem to want to play Fryatt and Hume up front???

However i have to admit that i didn't think he had the correct team for the Westbrom game, i thought 5 at the back with wingbacks was a good idea but i wasn't impressed with Howard being up front on his own and Hayles and Fryatt being wingers, but i was proved wrong as it really worked!

Whether Ollie will or wont be here at the end of the season we need to get behind him, there is no point turning against him if we want the club to stay up. His tactics are frustrating at times and i don't agree with all of them (i believe he plays the players he brought in over other players who deserve to be in the team because he doesn't want to be proved wrong with the players he brought in) but at this point in the season when we could get relegated we need to be behind him and the team! He must feel under alot of pressure, it can't be a pleasant feeling for him!

[Asha]

I question Ollie's tactics sometimes!

Why, why, why, would you play Hayles on the left wing first half who plays well and Fryatt on the right who doesn't play too well as the position doesn't suit him, then second half Hayles (who looked our only hope of creating something first half) goes up front and Fryatt stays on the wing but switches to the left. Why not keep Hayles on the wing and put Fryatt up front. Then DJ comes on and Hayles goes on the wing, so DJ can go up front. Why, does he not play Fryatt and Hume up front!

I think in this league you really need a big man, because of the average size of defenders in this league.

[Thracian]

I think in this league you really need a big man, because of the average size of defenders in this league.

What you say as easily makes a case for playing fast, elusive players and stretching the opposition back line.

Our team is far too slow most of the time.

We need more people who move quickly and more players who can spot their runs and pass the ball quickly and accurately enough to take advantage.

Even then they need support.

Big traditional centre-forwards are useful only if they are not used as the main focal point for attacks. Too often they are easily restricted or shepherded into non dangerous areas.

[Uncle Albert]

If we sacked IH would it make the players play any different? Well we have sacked enough in the last 4 years and we still finish between mid table and the relegation zone

Back the Manager or shut the fook up

Well said.

[Legend_in_blue]

Well said.

Some of the players need sacking not the manager. IH is trying to do a good job, it's just a shame some of the players don't show a little more initiative and perform for a least two games in a row, not just one.

I wish I was paid £10000 a week for hoofing a ball 50 foot in the air.

[Uncle Albert]

Some of the players need sacking not the manager. IH is trying to do a good job, it's just a shame some of the players don't show a little more initiative and perform for a least two games in a row, not just one.

I wish I was paid £10000 a week for hoofing a ball 50 foot in the air.

Yea sacking the players in this time of need is the way to do it.

[Legend_in_blue]

Yea sacking the players in this time of need is the way to do it.

We've needed these players all season, and so far, the majority have not performed. I would sack them at the end of the season.

Depending on our situation, some may leave anyway. It will be interesting to see who steps up to the plate and deals with it. After all is said and done, they're the ones responsible for getting us into this mess.

They should deal with it.

[Uncle Albert]

We've needed these players all season, and so far, the majority have not performed. I would sack them at the end of the season.

Depending on our situation, some may leave anyway. It will be interesting to see who steps up to the plate and deals with it. After all is said and done, they're the ones responsible for getting us into this mess.

They should deal with it.

Yea do that. You would be class on Football Manager.

[clazkel]

I think in this league you really need a big man, because of the average size of defenders in this league.

I would like to see Hume and Fryatt play up front together, but what i meant was why does Ollie play Hume and Fryatt on the wing and very rarely up front, even Hume and Howard or Fryatt and Howard up front, but he seems to see them as his 4th and 5th choice strikers.