Fat blokes have bad sperm

[lookwhaticando]

Being too fat 'can damage sperm'

Obese men have poorer quality sperm, perhaps because too much fat around their testicles causes them to heat up, scientists have suggested.

University of Aberdeen researchers looked at the sperm of over 2,000 men in couples having problems conceiving.

The heaviest men had a higher proportion of abnormal sperm, as well as other problems.

The scientists told a European fertility conference losing weight probably boosted fertility.

Being obese is already known to affect women's chances of getting pregnant.

The men were divided into four groups, according to their BMI (body mass index).

Other factors which could affect fertility, such as smoking, high alcohol use and age, were taken into account by the researchers.

Men who had a healthy BMI of 20 to 25 were had higher levels of normal sperm than those who were heavier.

They also had higher semen volume, the European Society for Human Reproduction and Embryology meeting in Barcelona was told.

But those with a higher BMI had lower volumes of seminal fluid, and a higher proportion of abnormal sperm.

There was no significant difference between the four groups in sperm concentration or activity.

Other studies have also linked obesity to DNA damage in the sperm.

Semen quality

Dr Ghiyath Shayeb, who led the research, said: "Our findings were quite independent of any other factors and seem to suggest that men who are trying for a baby with their partners, should first try to achieve an ideal body weight.

"This is in addition to the benefit of a healthy BMI for their general well being.

"Adopting a healthy lifestyle, a balanced diet, and regular exercise will, in the vast majority of cases, lead to a normal BMI.

"We are pleased to be able to add improved semen quality to the long list of benefits that we know are the result of an optimal body weight."

The researchers will now look at male BMI in fertile and infertile couples to see if the poorer semen quality is directly linked to poor fertility, and examine further how obesity can damage sperm.

Dr Shayeb said there were a number of possible explanations, including different hormone levels in obese men, overheating of the testicles caused by excessive fat in the area, or simply the lifestyle and diet that leads to obesity also causing poorer semen quality.

Dr Ian Campbell, chair of the charity Weight Concern, said it was known that overweight people had a tendency to have fewer children.

He said there had been a suspicion that was mainly due to lack of opportunity.

"But if weight actually has a detrimental effect on sperm quality, that's really interesting," he said

"It's one more reason for men to lose weight."

[Fox You Forest]

Thanks for that.

Im now going to have toast instead of Cornflakes.

[Darkzzz_]

Yet another incentive for fat people to shed the pounds.

[Daggers]

University of Aberdeen researchers looked at the sperm of over 2,000 men in couples having problems conceiving.

Here's an idea University of Aberdeen - maybe there's some other factors involved? You see, I watch daytime TV now and then and it seems the thicker you are, the fatter you are and the more of a cnut you are - the more likely you have a huge family from multiple partners.

Maybe sperm motility is down to something else? Huh?

[Tabou]

My sperms are so bad they have ASBOS.

[Master Fox]

I don’t see why we just don’t torture, beat, rape, humiliate and kill every fat person, or people that might be carrying a bit of extra weight. Rid them of their existence for good.

Also, studies revealed by a completely retarded University proved that all of the world’s problems were down to fat people. They also discovered that smokers, drinkers, low income workers, recreational drug users, aging people, people who don’t exercise, and immigrants were to blame for everything that’s wrong with your life.

[Fox You Forest]

I don’t see why we just don’t torture, beat, rape, humiliate and kill every fat person, or people that might be carrying a bit of extra weight. Rid them of their existence for good.

Also, studies revealed by a completely retarded University proved that all of the world’s problems were down to fat people. They also discovered that smokers, drinkers, low income workers, recreational drug users, aging people, people who don’t exercise, and immigrants were to blame for everything that’s wrong with your life.

Tommy G knows Mater Fox's password.

[Vardinhio]

It is a growing concern though. Just look at America.

I'm all for a bit of the bad press on being fat. Not saying at all it's a awful thing to have a bit of a belly and that, but at least it sets an example to the young to be healthy.

Before anyone mentions it, this kind of blame isn't the reason for those anorexic supermodels out there

[Finnegan]

It is a growing concern though. Just look at America.

I'm all for a bit of the bad press on being fat. Not saying at all it's a awful thing to have a bit of a belly and that, but at least it sets an example to the young to be healthy.

Before anyone mentions it, this kind of blame isn't the reason for those anorexic supermodels out there

Having just trucked through Marya Hornbacher's Wasted (probably one of the hardest books I've ever read) I do find attitudes like this startle and irritate me a lot more than they would have a couple of months ago.

The issue of weight is one that needs to be handled with a lot, lot, lot more sensitivity. Shock tactics and a bit of ribbing might work to cut down the spread of STDs, drink driving or cigarette consumption, but you just can't treat weight the same way. The psychological impact is far, far greater and a vast majority really don't think of the consequences of their words on the more troubled people around them.

[Guest]

It is a growing concern though. Just look at America.

I'm all for a bit of the bad press on being fat. Not saying at all it's a awful thing to have a bit of a belly and that, but at least it sets an example to the young to be healthy.

Before anyone mentions it, this kind of blame isn't the reason for those anorexic supermodels out there

Sorry is this an opinion based upon your own personal extensive research?

Of course it is a growing concern. Having personally taken the trouble to lose 6 stone going from 18.5 stone (after I quit smoking) to a fairly acceptable 12.5, i can tell you that it certainly wasn't due to having negative press shoved in my face all the time. I took responsibility for my own health and realised that my self esteem was being directly affected by my weight/size. Yes I agree that kids need to be set an example to eat well, but society as a whole cannot do that as you will always have fat people the same as you will always have excessively thin people, neither of which are necessarily a good example. Parents are more responsible for setting an example for kids and not just in the matter of eating well.

I'm not even taking into account the other factors that conribute to increased obesity in society, economic factors for example. It is much harder to eat well and exercise if you are earning little and working constantly to support a family for example.

Apologies for ranting

[Daggers]

Tommy G knows Mater Fox's password.

Tommy G knows MF's mater?

So the animosity is all born of a desire for patricide?

[This poor gag is dedicated to the three people in the world who'll understand it]

[Finnegan]

Tommy G knows MF's mater?

So the animosity is all born of a desire for patricide?

[This poor gag is dedicated to the three people in the world who'll understand it]

[stez]

well mine worked fine five years ago, but i was very athletic in those days.

[Vardinhio]

I agree the issue of weight should be handled carefully.

These are more factually based statements rather than bad press though and I for one am glad they are in the public eye, that's all I'm saying.

As for the economy, being someone who's studied it to degree level it's all swings and roundabouts mate. You talk about a poor economy being a reason for obesity which is a valid point but also remember that clinically obese people generally have lower levels of productivity and so thus, the circle never ends.

The only way to try and improve things is through government legislation, ie the smoking ban for example to improve health. It's no coincidence that a number of these studies/media reports are being released, the manipulation of the press is a powerful thing.

Anyhows, sorry if I offended anyone!

[Daggers]

[Finnegan]

lol

I lol'd rl.

[Fox You Forest]

[Milky]

Surely fat blokes have bad everything no?

[Finnegan]

Surely fat blokes have bad everything no?

And you wonder why I think you're an idiot?

[Alexikokopops]

Surely fat blokes have bad everything no?

I heard they were pretty jolly, that's not bad.

[Milky]

I heard they were pretty jolly, that's not bad.

true. I was thinking more health wise.

[Milky]

And you wonder why I think you're an idiot?

whatever you say Mr Muscle

[Finnegan]

whatever you say Mr Muscle

You'll not get terrible success trying to turn that around, matey. You want to come make pretty sweeping, insulting assumptions about people and their weight you might want to at least try and put out your point fairly intelligently instead of just acting like a child.

[Milky]

You'll not get terrible success trying to turn that around, matey. You want to come make pretty sweeping, insulting assumptions about people and their weight you might want to at least try and put out your point fairly intelligently instead of just acting like a child.

:laugh: you missed off the sonny, or sonny jim, or {insert any other condescending remark}

oh sorry, missed the "matey"

[Finnegan]

:laugh: you missed off the sonny, or sonny jim, or {insert any other condescending remark}

oh sorry, missed the "matey"

You act like it's not immensely intentional.