Molson Canadian Posted 14 April 2005 Posted 14 April 2005 ''It's because I don't feel you deserve a place in the premiership at the minute as in my eyes you have a sugar daddy at the helm of your ship who's aimlessly guiding a city disinterested in football through divisons.''[cracks fingers] our team and how much we bought them for, because you think we are where we are just because of the money: filan - 600k baines - free jackson- free eaden - free breckin - 125k now is it me, or does the best defence in the league cost 125k? teale - 250k bullard - 275k mahon/jarrett/kavanagh - free/free/400k mculloch - 700k and with the sale of roy carroll for 2.5m you could say we bought ellington and roberts with that money ellington - 800k roberts - 1.4m 92730[/snapback] honestly that is very impressive
Vardinhio Posted 14 April 2005 Posted 14 April 2005 That's still a lot more money spent than most teams in this division and for a team that has been coming through divisions I'd say a sugar daddy has been taking you through them. Anyways it's not your football that's the pants, it's your fans. Your a league one outfit with some good players but that doesn't mean you deserve to be up there in my eyes. Look at Pompey. They spent similarly to you BUT they also had the best fans in the division. You arguably have the second best team in this division but your fans are also arguably among the worst. Rodney Marsh or Andy Gray (I don't remember) once argued that "what would be the point in wigan going up?" and I'm inclined to agree. Your exactly the type of club that doesn't belong in the premiership. A chairman with a big wallet with no fan base to thank for it, heh, and dont he hate it.
Durnerz Posted 14 April 2005 Posted 14 April 2005 There is no such thing as a free transfer, there are signing on fee's and wages to consider so i'd imagine your team cost a little bit more than you said.
Sparky Posted 14 April 2005 Posted 14 April 2005 im not of the opinion that wigan dont deserve to go up , and of course there is still a way to go yet but the league table does not lie . whoever finish in the top 2 DESERVE to go up . in my personal opinion i still belive that will be sunderland and ipswich
Nathan_Ellington_WAFC Posted 14 April 2005 Posted 14 April 2005 That's still a lot more money spent than most teams in this division and for a team that has been coming through divisions I'd say a sugar daddy has been taking you through them.Anyways it's not your football that's the pants, it's your fans. Your a league one outfit with some good players but that doesn't mean you deserve to be up there in my eyes. Look at Pompey. They spent similarly to you BUT they also had the best fans in the division. You arguably have the second best team in this division but your fans are also arguably among the worst. Rodney Marsh or Andy Gray (I don't remember) once argued that "what would be the point in wigan going up?" and I'm inclined to agree. Your exactly the type of club that doesn't belong in the premiership. A chairman with a big wallet with no fan base to thank for it, heh, and dont he hate it. 92840[/snapback] can i just ask before i have my say...are you jealous of us? sounds like it little wigan going onwards and upwards, unlike yourselves of course we are where we are now because of whelan, but the most important reason is paul jewell at this moment in time a league one outfit? what kind of statement is that? some good players? our team i think the best in this division so going by your theory, sheffield wednesday shouldnt be in divsion 2 but should be in the prem because of their crowds? you really are pathetic. we deserve to be where we are, and you saying that we dont is silly. football is played on the pitch, not off it can i just say that your football, fans and running of club is pants as well why is there loads of emty seats at your stadium this season, but not last season? yeh - true fans, well done and you call our fans? crowds risen EVERY SEASON from 95 when we were only getting 1200, 1400 etc but fickle football fans with a small brain like yourself dont realise this, but it's no skin off my nose, as we seem to have rattled your cage rodney marsh said it, and we all know what a prat he is why would andy gray say something like that? when dave whelan has took over we averaged 1500, i wonder if he hated it then eh? hhhhhhm, must be worse now eh? it shows as well all i have to say is that your bitter, jealous and judging us like that is truly pathetic
Vardinhio Posted 14 April 2005 Posted 14 April 2005 I think Sheffield Wednesday are a premiership club. I also think Leeds Utd and Forrest are. I don't think Wigan are......... I'm not jealous. I'd hate to be a Wigan fan when the only cheer is for a goal. Fickle fans....yes we have a fair few, but we also have the greatest Rugby team in the world to compete with. We still are averaging 22,000+. Your rising fan base point proves nothing. You've pratically done well every season since 1995. You may have been, but I can't remember you being relegated in that period. You gain fickle fans with promotion and lose them through relegation. So your point really proves...nothing. As for you insulting my intelligence. I happen to be the possesor of degrees in Law, specialising in employment and Maths. I don't know but I doubt you have these qualifications. I also doubt you earn as much as me a year so don't turn your football opinions into personal ones.
Chimp Posted 14 April 2005 Posted 14 April 2005 all i have to say is that your bitter, jealous and judging us like that is truly pathetic 92855[/snapback] I tend to agree. If Wigan get promotion then fair play to them. They may not have the best attendance but, y'know, so what. The figures quoted aren't really that much to spend on a Championship side, it's not like they've bought their way into a possible promotion position. If they get into the Premiership then it's because the manager has done a good job and the team have played well. 'Nuff said.
Nathan_Ellington_WAFC Posted 14 April 2005 Posted 14 April 2005 I think Sheffield Wednesday are a premiership club. I also think Leeds Utd and Forrest are. I don't think Wigan are.........I'm not jealous. I'd hate to be a Wigan fan when the only cheer is for a goal. Fickle fans....yes we have a fair few, but we also have the greatest Rugby team in the world to compete with. We still are averaging 22,000+. Your rising fan base point proves nothing. You've pratically done well every season since 1995. You may have been, but I can't remember you being relegated in that period. You gain fickle fans with promotion and lose them through relegation. So your point really proves...nothing. As for you insulting my intelligence. I happen to be the possesor of degrees in Law, specialising in employment and Maths. I don't know but I doubt you have these qualifications. I also doubt you earn as much as me a year so don't turn your football opinions into personal ones. 92890[/snapback] oh ok then, sod leeds debt, we dont care if they are where they are now because deserve to be but they should just be in the prem because they are leeds. is that what you're saying? so why do you think sheff weds are a prem club, but we arent? just because of crowds? if so that's pathetic. crowds dont win points, the team does i'd hate to be a leicester fan you're club is a laughing stock i.e la manga, admin etc so what else do you cheer for? eeeeerm! didnt you notice that the most succesful rugby side in the world is also in the same town as us! ha, shot yourself in the foot with that one i suppose you also have six prem clubs with a 30 mile radius around you as well? er, no! well, we havent lost fans yet, but you certainly have. so your point about our crowds being pathetic proves nothing because of the stats i have gave and it also means nothing i was merely insulting your intelligence, just your knowledge and ignorance of my club. now you're just being arrogant.
Sparky Posted 14 April 2005 Posted 14 April 2005 guys this gets really boring now , we have a new thread like this started nearly every day , wigan boy if u get promoted then fair play to wigan . jewell has done a great job there . all us citys fans have got to hang on to is that we are a big club and theres absolute no doubt in that but were going through a transitional stage , and belive me we will be back . so from me nath , all the best
Chimp Posted 14 April 2005 Posted 14 April 2005 i'd hate to be a leicester fanyou're club is a laughing stock i.e la manga, admin etc so what else do you cheer for? 92910[/snapback] I think that maybe some of the comments in this thread do not portray the posters true feeling about Wigan AFC, but are more a reaction to your attitude toward Leicester. Now, I know many of your comments in this thread have been a reaction to other's criticism but maybe if you toned down the anti-LCFC comments then you'd get a more positive response. This is an LCFC forum after all, if you come in here taking the piss then you should expect to get it back. <_<
Vardinhio Posted 14 April 2005 Posted 14 April 2005 I'll end this now and let's all look forward to Saturday.
Nathan_Ellington_WAFC Posted 14 April 2005 Posted 14 April 2005 if someone gave pathetic comments about my club then i intend to give them back in the same way whether it's an lcfc forum or not if i have upset fans then i apologise, because of the decent fans like yourself chimp archerm brought it on, and he claims to have degrees and all the best to you lot all so
Vardinhio Posted 14 April 2005 Posted 14 April 2005 I'll end this now and let's all look forward to Saturday. 92915[/snapback] I simply voiced my opinion as I'm entitled to. I don't think much of Wigan and never have done. Let's just hope we get to crush your dreams on Saturday. Will you be there or are you just a homer?
Nathan_Ellington_WAFC Posted 15 April 2005 Posted 15 April 2005 i doubt you'll beat us i wont be attending, which doesnt mean i just go to home games.
Bert Posted 15 April 2005 Posted 15 April 2005 i doubt you'll beat usi wont be attending, which doesnt mean i just go to home games. 93081[/snapback] But if you are such a loyal fan you would be able to make the time and the money to get there! loyal fan eh??
Nathan_Ellington_WAFC Posted 15 April 2005 Posted 15 April 2005 i am a loyal fan to wigan athletic, but i didnt realise that you had to go to EVERY game?? i had this discussion with anish. i dont live off my parents but i have a part time job and wigan athletic isnt the only thing i spend my money on so it is hard for me to go to EVERY game so do leicester only have 1700 loyal fans, as this is the amount you brought to wigan which is pathetic considering the home gates you get?
davieG Posted 15 April 2005 Posted 15 April 2005 Let's not have the 'loyal fan' debate again It's booooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooring
Vardinhio Posted 15 April 2005 Posted 15 April 2005 http://news.ft.com/cms/s/a6c8227a-a2d0-11d...000e2511c8.html A very interesting read. Put in better terms, that is how I feel about Wigan.
Nathan_Ellington_WAFC Posted 15 April 2005 Posted 15 April 2005 you just said you'll settle this a few posts back, now you're back with this. well, why havent you answered my previous points before? please do so, instead of just saying lets just look forward to the game or whatever you said anyway, do you think us wiganers havent seen anything like that before? no skin off our nose if some southern journalist expresses his lazy attitude towards our club the thing is, people like him and yourself cant accept that we're going places guess what, accept it
Fox 4 Life Posted 15 April 2005 Posted 15 April 2005 Im sorry but I feel some of the things some LCFC fans have said are completely out of order, Wigan deserve to be where they are and as he showed thay havent bought their way to the title, I think we are a bit bitter towards them as we are doing shit and "deserve" to be their because we are a big club, well im sorry to say people we really are not that big anymore, we have the potential yes but we dont show it at all. And the fan thins is rather pathetic aswell, if anything its harder for them to do well knowing they have such little support so again thats well done to the players and manager. Admittedley their support is shit but that shouldnt make them undeserved to be where they are!
Vardinhio Posted 15 April 2005 Posted 15 April 2005 Your going up. You still have the worst set of fans in this league and will have in the premiership. The only thing I envy is your league position, you can keep the rest of your "club". Anyways It'd make me laugh so much if you didn't go up so unless I'm provoked again this will be my last post. Be a man and leave it here because I am very arrogant as you have found out and this can carry on and on
Katy Posted 15 April 2005 Posted 15 April 2005 Your going up. You still have the worst set of fans in this league and will have in the premiership.The only thing I envy is your league position, you can keep the rest of your "club". Anyways It'd make me laugh so much if you didn't go up so unless I'm provoked again this will be my last post. Be a man and leave it here because I am very arrogant as you have found out and this can carry on and on 93220[/snapback] Correct me if im wrong but I think in Wigan Rugby takes centre stage above football, I doubt there are that many people in Wigan so its little wonder the football attendances are crap.
Nathan_Ellington_WAFC Posted 15 April 2005 Posted 15 April 2005 we still have 4 games left, we arent up yet i think our toughest game is tomorrow we dont have the worst fans in this league, as we get more than rotherham, gillingham crewe for starters well, we have a 25000 seater stadium and most of the prem clubs (if not all) have more than that all the dead heads in wigan will come out to watch us in the prem this season we have attracted crowds of 17k against ipswich and leeds in the championship with leeds bring 5000 and ipswich 3000. what crowds do fulham get? so being the worst in the prem IF we get there wont happen we got 20800 against sunderland and most teams in the prem will bring support like sunderland did and thus we would have more home support because of the prem so i dont see where you're coming from...? it wouldnt be a disaster if we dont go up, as we would come back stronger like this season provoke you? how exactly? you're the one who came out spouting jealous crap. btw, what do you have to be arrogant about?
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