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[purpleronnie]

Scum

[Ric Flair]

To be honest I couldn't give a fook. I've never seen what the big outcry has been about MK Dons. Ok, they uprooted the club 60 miles, which must have pissed off Wimbledon but why does it bother anyone else?

Businesses relocate, the staff there have to relocate or leave and the customers well they have to deal with it as well. I know football's more than just a business, but if Leicester moved 60 miles away i'd still support them (or for my own sanity it might do me a favour to not follow the fookers). God, as fans I often think we've been treated far worse than having our club moved.

I know i'm in the minority here though and I accept other people's views, but as far as i'm concerned it doesn't bother me.

[Fosse Boy]

Right, if you'll allow me to respond to your points (which are relevant to the debate), then I'll allow you to respond in kind. Because that's what a debate is.

you really don't get it do you, football IS a purely commercial business now, without the attendance or viewing it is nothing, i'm sure that without the attendances you and leeds have you would not be favourites to win the division, it also wasn't theft, it was a last resort in moving and milton keynes was the nearest offer, you must remember the headline of the 'dublin dons'

This is the same old line trotted out by all Franchise 'fans' in order to try and justify theft of another club. Many other clubs have faced the financial pressures that were on Wimbledon at the time and yet have not required having their name changed, their club colours changed, or had to move seventy odd miles away from their original home in order to survive.

It's a well publicised fact that Wankleman had attempted to take control of both Luton Town and QPR (who were both at that time financially stable) with views to a similar move to MK before he took over Wimbledon.

as to the damages they did, your comment is completely unrelated, you make up the completely untrue and libelious comment about winkelman and say that WFC killing MK City is completely okay, which is hypocritical as MK City was enjoyment for a few thousand people but it was taken away from them by people from another area, but in our case we didn't get another football club, people i know went absolutely mental when MK City was 'murdered' by WFC, it was a cold calculating move to aid the financial situation of WFC with no care of what it did to damage anyone else.

Is this a joke? It read like the ramblings of a drugged horse! Where have I said this?

say that WFC killing MK City is completely okay

At this point your argument has really dissolved, you obviously have no idea behind the history of either club. How exactly did a club in South London kill a non-league team in Bedfordshire? What you are writing is fiction. MK City did not move to Wimbledon as you suggest, they simply went out of business, due to the fact that hardly any of MK's citizens were willing to follow non-league football in their town.

stole the club? i have already commented on the move being last minute but when it arrived here people were always going to go, i reckon alot of the older people that hold season tickets went to see MK City and have no bad conscience over the move, others of us feel guilty about what we did but we did not steal anything, we simply offered a deal to save the jobs at the club and help them to continue to practise, they took it, alot of the blame lies with hamman and the norwegians AND merton borough council as well as us.

Sounds a bit like Pontius Pilate-ism to me here, i.e. you're absolving yourselves of the fact that another community's club was ripped from them in order that you now have the commodity of a league football club on your doorstep without having to work your way up through the leagues like other clubs (such as MK City) would have done.

alot of the blame lies with hamman and the norwegians

Totally agree with you, they knew what Wankleman's plan was when they sold the club to him. They betrayed their fans and shat on Wimbledon F.C. in order to line their own pockets.

franchise means the same wherever it is placed as it has a simple dictionary definition, people just thought 'hey thats like in america, what do they buy? the franchise? ooh mk are a franchise' every team in the football league is a franchise and that is that

Yes, that's why I'm using it in context. In sports, that is how the term is applied. Therefore, I am correct.

now then, can we get back to the simple debate i asked for, would you or would you not like to see the match and who would you like to win, and this is without comments such as 'scum' or other things, if i can be courteous having to live with comments like this from every angle and whatever i say being wrong then you can surely refrain from using the words 'scum' towards me

Yes we can, AFC to win ten nil so that football supporters up and down the land can feel like some sort of justice is being done.

There, I feel I've been civil. Think the moral of this story is that if you start a debate, don't expect everyone to side with you, and when they don't, don't start getting upset and making comments like

i can be courteous having to live with comments like this from every angle and whatever i say being wrong

The beauty of debate is that it highlights difference of opinion, so don't get so offended, OK?

[purpleronnie]

To be honest I couldn't give a fook. I've never seen what the big outcry has been about MK Dons. Ok, they uprooted the club 60 miles, which must have pissed off Wimbledon but why does it bother anyone else?

Businesses relocate, the staff there have to relocate or leave and the customers well they have to deal with it as well. I know football's more than just a business, but if Leicester moved 60 miles away i'd still support them (or for my own sanity it might do me a favour to not follow the fookers). God, as fans I often think we've been treated far worse than having our club moved.

I know i'm in the minority here though and I accept other people's views, but as far as i'm concerned it doesn't bother me.

But surely fighting for your club is worthwhile, english people accept too much and very rarely unite, if they did being a football fan in england would be much mre fun.

Apathy as the poster shows is alive and kicking...unfortunately.

[Fosse Boy]

To be honest I couldn't give a fook. I've never seen what the big outcry has been about MK Dons. Ok, they uprooted the club 60 miles, which must have pissed off Wimbledon but why does it bother anyone else?

Businesses relocate, the staff there have to relocate or leave and the customers well they have to deal with it as well. I know football's more than just a business, but if Leicester moved 60 miles away i'd still support them (or for my own sanity it might do me a favour to not follow the fookers). God, as fans I often think we've been treated far worse than having our club moved.

I know i'm in the minority here though and I accept other people's views, but as far as i'm concerned it doesn't bother me.

Except if that happened, we wouldn't be Leicester any more would we? Look at what's happened with Wimbledon becoming MK Dons. There's absolutely nothing to suggest that they're the same club. The name, the club colours, the badge, the town in which they play, all totally different. Those ex-Wimbledon fans who now follow MK Dons are not supporting the same club. AFC Wimbledon are the true continuation of Wimbledon, a fact supported by the vast majority of football fans. Heaven forbid but if something like that ever happened to City, I'd definitely follow an AFC Wimbledon style side that was based in and around Leicester, even if it meant watching non-league footy for a few years.

[Lovejoy]

Before this season MK were my 2nd team .

[Webbo]

To be honest I couldn't give a fook. I've never seen what the big outcry has been about MK Dons. Ok, they uprooted the club 60 miles, which must have pissed off Wimbledon but why does it bother anyone else?

Businesses relocate, the staff there have to relocate or leave and the customers well they have to deal with it as well. I know football's more than just a business, but if Leicester moved 60 miles away i'd still support them (or for my own sanity it might do me a favour to not follow the fookers). God, as fans I often think we've been treated far worse than having our club moved.

I know i'm in the minority here though and I accept other people's views, but as far as i'm concerned it doesn't bother me.

[purpleronnie]

Yep I think any club at anytime should uproot and move.