Jimothy Posted 17 October 2009 Posted 17 October 2009 If it wasn't for Instanbul (one of the greatest none Leicester game I've ever seen by the way, along with Spain v Yugoslavia in Euro 2000) would Rafa Benítez still have a job? They promise so much every season, but the always fail to deliver and have hardly got any closer to the title since he arrived. He's spent vast amounts on average players like Dossena, Degen, Babel, and Lucas, and still despite the money spent, barely has a squad outside his first 11. I know every 'big' team loses to 'smaller' teams, e.g Man Utd to Burnley, but Liverpool have been doing it frightenly frequently in recent years. With 4 defeats already this season, surely he's on borrowed time.
Budweiser Posted 17 October 2009 Posted 17 October 2009 If it wasn't for Instanbul (one of the greatest none Leicester game I've ever seen by the way, along with Spain v Yugoslavia in Euro 2000) would Rafa Benítez still have a job?They promise so much every season, but the always fail to deliver and have hardly got any closer to the title since he arrived. He's spent vast amounts on average players like Dossena, Degen, Babel, and Lucas, and still despite the money spent, barely has a squad outside his first 11. I know every 'big' team loses to 'smaller' teams, e.g Man Utd to Burnley, but Liverpool have been doing it frightenly frequently in recent years. With 4 defeats already this season, surely he's on borrowed time. No. He wouldn't have a job. He should be a dead man walking, he buys some utter shite, literally I could buy some better players than Rafa. Lucas Liverpool may not even finish in the top 4 in my opinion, the depth of their team is pathetic. I think Babel is a good player, but it just hasn't worked out at Liverpool. If he went somewhere like Spurs, Man City or Villa I think he would be very good. I reckon 3/4 of the players Rafa has signed are complete shite for a top 4 side. Maybe it's his scouting network, but whatever it is, they need to sort it out. I have never been a fan of Rafa, ever. Even after Istanbul. He is in his job by thriving onto his past success. This may seem outragous, and if Liverpool were top of the league I probably wouldn't be saying this, but at the end of the day, Rafa should go. Liverpool are a huge club and if they had someone in charge who had any sense of footballing talent (maybe a bit harsh) then they would have won the league by now. Why didn't they go for Tevez? People claim he is over-rated and all that, but surely he is alot better than N'gog? Players like Robben and Sneijder have left Real Madrid, why haven't they gone in for them. Maybe they don't have the money, but the amount that Rafa has spent at Liverpool could surely match and succeed in the purchase of such players? & one last question, do they actually produce their own talent? Liverpool are going downhill more and more. Rafa out.
lildave3 Posted 17 October 2009 Posted 17 October 2009 I would probably say he's had his time now yes.
dandannieldanok Posted 17 October 2009 Posted 17 October 2009 It's no good getting rid of someone unless you've got a replacement ready. I can't see anyone available or anyone suitable in a current job to replace Benitez.
Benji Posted 17 October 2009 Posted 17 October 2009 The moment Gerrard and Torres were ruled out you knew Sunderland would pick up at least a point. The fool drove Alonso out of the club with his Gareth Barry romantacising and the old saying "you don't know what you had 'til it's gone" is quite apt. He's living off the brilliance of a handful of players.
lildave3 Posted 17 October 2009 Posted 17 October 2009 It's no good getting rid of someone unless you've got a replacement ready. I can't see anyone available or anyone suitable in a current job to replace Benitez. So you're saying that Rafa Benitez is one of the top managers in the world?
Budweiser Posted 17 October 2009 Posted 17 October 2009 It's no good getting rid of someone unless you've got a replacement ready. I can't see anyone available or anyone suitable in a current job to replace Benitez. You never know what the chosen one would do
dandannieldanok Posted 17 October 2009 Posted 17 October 2009 So you're saying that Rafa Benitez is one of the top managers in the world? Nope, but if you replace Benitez who do you bring in?
CosbehFox Posted 17 October 2009 Posted 17 October 2009 The problem is what every poor sod who takes over joins a mess of a club. He's never been the same since he booted his ex-best mate of the assistant role after Istanbul. Take their strikers for example.... Nemeth had been banging the goals in for the reserves, so rather than bring him on in abillty, he loans him to AEK Athens and then carries on using the likes of Voronin. To add, his purchase like the Greek fella rather than letting a young lad break through. There's absolutely no squad at Liverpool.
lildave3 Posted 17 October 2009 Posted 17 October 2009 Nope, but if you replace Benitez who do you bring in? Klinnsman But seriously, anyone they want. Liverpool have that stature.
dandannieldanok Posted 17 October 2009 Posted 17 October 2009 Klinnsman But seriously, anyone they want. Liverpool have that stature. Don't rate Klinsman myself, didn't do very well at Bayern, not a better alternative to Benitez imo. Liverpool may have the stature but do they have the cash to pay off Benitez, then pay compo to another club.
Guppy Posted 17 October 2009 Posted 17 October 2009 Don't rate Klinsman myself, didn't do very well at Bayern, not a better alternative to Benitez imo.Liverpool may have the stature but do they have the cash to pay off Benitez, then pay compo to another club. Mancini?
Budweiser Posted 17 October 2009 Posted 17 October 2009 I reckon they could get Mourinho. I don't think Benitez would be hard to replace, Klinsman isn't a bad shout. Past record is poor but you never know, a change in league etc. Wait until the end of the season and see if they can get Hiddink? or is he contracted 'til 2012?
lildave3 Posted 17 October 2009 Posted 17 October 2009 Don't rate Klinsman myself, didn't do very well at Bayern, not a better alternative to Benitez imo.Liverpool may have the stature but do they have the cash to pay off Benitez, then pay compo to another club. I was joking about Jurgen, because of the rumours surrounding him the other year.
Jimothy Posted 17 October 2009 Author Posted 17 October 2009 Nope, but if you replace Benitez who do you bring in? But as people have said, Liverpool are a huge club. Someone will be tempted by that job, even if they are at another big European club. Another option is to actually scout for a good manager, who might not be a huge name to everyone in England, like Arsenal did with Wenger. I used to think Rafa just wasn't taking Liverpool forward, now I think they might actually be going backwards under him.
CosbehFox Posted 17 October 2009 Posted 17 October 2009 Liverpool may have the stature but do they have the cash to pay off Benitez, then pay compo to another club. Wouldn't matter....the bloke in question would probably quit his club. It's very rare Liverpool ever go for a 'name' manager. Normally someone whose worked his load internationally or domestically done well with a smaller side.
Budweiser Posted 17 October 2009 Posted 17 October 2009 But as people have said, Liverpool are a huge club. Someone will be tempted by that job, even if they are at another big European club. Another option is to actually scout for a good manager, who might not be a huge name to everyone in England, like Arsenal did with Wenger. I used to think Rafa just wasn't taking Liverpool forward, now I think they might actually be going backwards under him. Steve Bruce
Jimothy Posted 17 October 2009 Author Posted 17 October 2009 Steve Bruce He'd go. He'd always go. If any club calls he'll go, he's a football club whore.
Budweiser Posted 17 October 2009 Posted 17 October 2009 David Moyes Martin O'Neill. Matched and slapped.
dandannieldanok Posted 17 October 2009 Posted 17 October 2009 But as people have said, Liverpool are a huge club. Someone will be tempted by that job, even if they are at another big European club. I disagree, Liverpool have great history but I very much doubt managers at top European clubs will want to walk into a job where the owners are looking for a way out and there is no money to improve the squad (without selling first). Liverpool is only an attractive proposition because of two things: Fernando Torres and Steven Gerrard. Now unless one of these top managers has a desperate hankering to work with those players they wouldn't touch Liverpool with a bargepole.
davieG Posted 18 October 2009 Posted 18 October 2009 John Barnes, ex-player, loves the club, will bring passion in will sort out the players. You can't beat an ex-player as manager! Don't know why we didn't go for Walshy.
Uncle Albert Posted 18 October 2009 Posted 18 October 2009 I would say he has come to the end of his time but Rafa wont leave yet and the owners wont get rid of him either because they will have to pay him a bomb in compensation. Good manager on his day and can come out with some awesome tactics, the Champs League campaign '05 and the 4-1 win last year but that wont save him for much longer. If the owners leave and these Saudi's come in then I can see Rafa staying but if Hicks and Gillett stay I dont think Rafa will last till the end of the season.
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