Guest BlueBrett Posted 18 November 2010 Posted 18 November 2010 You really think the owners of other clubs especially those in the FL don't already know who the owners are? That's the thing that bothers me about the situation. Blatently everybody knows who it is apart from us. I'd be very surprised if Sven didn't know before he signed his contract and I doubt the players have been kept in the dark about it either. Why can't they just tell us?!
Edmund Posted 18 November 2010 Posted 18 November 2010 As has been mentioned before, it's obvious the names are being kept back for financial reasons. I bet all this has done is given the green light for Sven to start picking the wall paper out for when the Foxes Trust office at the Walkers gets converted into his own personal massage parlour.
Finnegan Posted 18 November 2010 Posted 18 November 2010 Kids, this isn't the latest Harry Potter movie at the cinemas with popcorn and energy drink - this is real life, our football club - you should applaud that someone actually sits down and asks some important questions. I agree. And those people are the Football League and that is exactly why new owners have to pass an eligible persons test and be ratified with this country's footballing organization before they can take over. That's a professional body of sporting businessmen, not a supporters' trust, because it's real life and not the latest Harry Potter movie. A judgement that the Thai-lead consortium passed in order to gain control of Leicester City Football Club - a judgement that the Foxes Trust does not have the power to overturn even if it so desired. Top and co' now own are club, rightfully and legally, and why should we be questioning that when they're already delivering a far greater immediate impact than Mandaric did?
FoxyPV Posted 18 November 2010 Posted 18 November 2010 As long as we don't go on a completed retarded spending spree until everything is sorted - ts crossed etc and we know hat the situation is then I am happy enough with the way things are going. We may be in debt and still running at a loss (correct me if I'm wrong here)but I daresay our wage bill (bar Svern's) isn't going to cripple us if the Thais pulled out tomorrow as most of our higher earners are loanees and can be sent back.
marbelladave Posted 18 November 2010 Posted 18 November 2010 "normal" businessmen can do anything as long they have the board with them. If the buyers is approved by the new rules why is it important to do a public announcement. The buyers is from thailand and it maybe is a conflict in that country affecting the will to commit openly. It can affect the will to invest but that is not of any interest for the Foxes Trust, is it? I can understand the worries if it still is possible to do anything like the circus around Notts County with a fake 5 mil. commitment from a bank in London and so on. The point is that football clubs are not considered normal businesses. Essentially football clubs are private businesses that are usually owned by a very small number of people. In private companies the owners / majority shareholders can do pretty much as they see fit. It is relatively simple for them to lie and mislead the fans who are their primary source of income whilst running the club to their own agenda. I f they can deliver a few results then the fans are happy and ask few questions, but when it all goes tits up they leave the club and the community to pick up the pieces. Ask the fans in Portsmouth, Sheffield, Nottingham and the rest, even better ask the creditors whose livelyhoods are hurt when the club goes bust! Transparancy and accountability is the answer but would probably require massive changes to bring about, something that the folk who run football do not want, hence the half assed 'Tests' applied by the Football League.
haraven Posted 18 November 2010 Posted 18 November 2010 I agree. And those people are the Football League and that is exactly why knew owners have to pass an eligible persons test and be ratified with this country's footballing organization before they can take over. That's a professional body of sporting businessmen, not a supporters' trust, because it's real life and not the latest Harry Potter movie. A judgement that the Thai-lead consortium passed in order to gain control of Leicester City Football Club - a judgement that the Foxes Trust does not have the power to overturn even if it so desired. Top and co' now own are club, rightfully and legally, and why should we be questioning that when they're already delivering a far greater immediate impact than Mandaric did? I agree, and you make a fair point - but it does not hurt that someone continues to ask questions since so much is clouded in "mystery". I just had to get off my chest the annoyance certain posters here created within me by wading in with comments revealing a mindset that is so narrow and navel-loving I had to yell out - and that was not at you.
Foxblogger Posted 18 November 2010 Posted 18 November 2010 If you'd like to hear the thoughts of Ian Bason of the Foxes Trust in more detail I've just uploaded the interview I did with him for The Foxblogger Podcast. You can find it here - http://foxblogger.wordpress.com/2010/11/18/podcast-foxes-trust-register-complaint-to-football-league/
unreachable Posted 19 November 2010 Posted 19 November 2010 I have listened to Ian Bason of Foxes Trust in the podcast mentioned above and am uncertain whether it was appropriate to lodge a formal complaint. In the podcast Mr Bason says that the club does not have to disclose any ownership information until next April - so if that is the case why make the complaint now? I know that the club via MM have said that information will be disclosed before that date but if Regulation 92 doesn't bite until then I'm not sure what the Football League can reasonably do particularly when only about half of Championship clubs have complied with the ownership disclosure requirements. Watford FC's website http://www.watfordfc.com/page/companydetails/0,,10400~1010684,00.html states: "A new regulation authorised by The Football League, effective from September 3, 2010, requires every club to declare publicly the identity of any individual who directly or indirectly owns a stake of 10 per cent or more in that club" What date is applicable - 3rd September or next April? If the club don't have to disclose any ownership information which might be of advantage to our competitors until next April - that's fair enough. It would just be nice to know when the Regulations take effect. It may be that they took effect on 3rd September but the Football League are allowing the new regulations to bed in and won't enforce any breach until next April. Perhaps Mr Bason could address the above points?
Foxblogger Posted 19 November 2010 Posted 19 November 2010 I have listened to Ian Bason of Foxes Trust in the podcast mentioned above and am uncertain whether it was appropriate to lodge a formal complaint. In the podcast Mr Bason says that the club does not have to disclose any ownership information until next April - so if that is the case why make the complaint now? I know that the club via MM have said that information will be disclosed before that date but if Regulation 92 doesn't bite until then I'm not sure what the Football League can reasonably do particularly when only about half of Championship clubs have complied with the ownership disclosure requirements. Watford FC's website http://www.watfordfc.com/page/companydetails/0,,10400~1010684,00.html states: "A new regulation authorised by The Football League, effective from September 3, 2010, requires every club to declare publicly the identity of any individual who directly or indirectly owns a stake of 10 per cent or more in that club" What date is applicable - 3rd September or next April? If the club don't have to disclose any ownership information which might be of advantage to our competitors until next April - that's fair enough. It would just be nice to know when the Regulations take effect. It may be that they took effect on 3rd September but the Football League are allowing the new regulations to bed in and won't enforce any breach until next April. Perhaps Mr Bason could address the above points? I think the Trust's point is that whilst the club haven't broken the transparency rules per se, they are impinging upon the spirit in which they were made. The club don't have to release the details until April 2011, but delaying the announcement this long only leads to suspicion of the motives behind such a delay.
StanSP Posted 19 November 2010 Posted 19 November 2010 This what you wanted?? http://www.lcfc.com/page/LatestNews/0,,10274~2224998,00.html
artursteppe Posted 19 November 2010 Posted 19 November 2010 THIS,im sure is exactly what Pompey fans said after they won the FA Cup!!!. Ive mad my point Take it or leave it i aint fussed. Up the Shitty!!! Dude, you sure 'mad' your point - which says it all!!
Bettsj2 Posted 19 November 2010 Posted 19 November 2010 Are the Trust now satisfied or will they be requesting more information about Mr Arif?
Finnegan Posted 19 November 2010 Posted 19 November 2010 Dude, you sure 'mad' your point - which says it all!! If you're trying to be clever because he can't type, rule #01 of Understanding Raj is you CAN'T understand Raj. Raj don' giv' a fu'.
CKB Posted 20 November 2010 Posted 20 November 2010 Ahh bloody hell see this is the barsteward with not being on the forums since i posted on here and now seeing tons of messages i'd like to reply to... So i'm gonna bullet point it... A: Pretty much agree with everything Finnegan has said B: All the people that are worrying, yes you have your rights and i was like you at first but then i thought f-it i'm gonna enjoy this ride and worry about anything IF it ever happens.. So i say to all the worried LCFC fans.....ENJOY THE RIDE! and if these owners crash and burn then as fans we all unite because that is what we do! C: Foxes Trust, you are still in my bad books and the naughty step is just one more stupid statement away!!! BE WARNED D: I'm an arsonist, with a big box of matches - please let me in so I can set fire to your staff. [Gate Opens] Unbelievable!
Jackirius Posted 20 November 2010 Posted 20 November 2010 Ahh bloody hell see this is the barsteward with not being on the forums since i posted on here and now seeing tons of messages i'd like to reply to... So i'm gonna bullet point it... A: Pretty much agree with everything Finnegan has said B: All the people that are worrying, yes you have your rights and i was like you at first but then i thought f-it i'm gonna enjoy this ride and worry about anything IF it ever happens.. So i say to all the worried LCFC fans.....ENJOY THE RIDE! and if these owners crash and burn then as fans we all unite because that is what we do! C: Foxes Trust, you are still in my bad books and the naughty step is just one more stupid statement away!!! BE WARNED D: I'm an arsonist, with a big box of matches - please let me in so I can set fire to your staff. [Gate Opens] Unbelievable! Im afraid my friend. They are not bullet points.
CKB Posted 20 November 2010 Posted 20 November 2010 Im afraid my friend. They are not bullet points. I know, i know! i guess i A, B, C, D'ed it then
CKB Posted 21 November 2010 Posted 21 November 2010 Well, if it's d'ed then the threat is over. I killed the Foxes Trust
Daggers Posted 21 November 2010 Posted 21 November 2010 I killed the Foxes Trust You can dine out in the chip shop of your choice for at least one night. Lofted on the shoulders of heroes. And then tossed off by some cheap tramp in Market Street (called Colin)
CKB Posted 21 November 2010 Posted 21 November 2010 You can dine out in the chip shop of your choice for at least one night. Lofted on the shoulders of heroes. And then tossed off by some cheap tramp in Market Street (called Colin) Fantastic, i can't wait to meet Colin
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