Foxes_Trust Posted 17 November 2010 Posted 17 November 2010 Formal complaint now registered with the Football League Details Here http://foxestrust.co.uk/site/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=969&Itemid=2
unreachable Posted 17 November 2010 Posted 17 November 2010 Formal complaint now registered with the Football League Details Here http://foxestrust.co.uk/site/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=969&Itemid=2 Very few Football League clubs have published details of ownership on their websites so I doubt that the Football League will make an example of Leicester City. http://www.football-league.co.uk/regulations/20100801/section-9-association-dual-interests_2284800_2125750#92 92. PUBLICATION OF OWNERSHIP 92.1 Each Club shall publish the identities of the ultimate owner (Person, not Entity) of each Significant Interest in the Club (as that term is defined in Rule 1.1 of Appendix 4)*.That information shall as a minimum be published on the Club's official website on a page accessible directly from the home page of that official club website. Rule 92 is so complicated that it is practically unenforceable.
ajthefox Posted 18 November 2010 Posted 18 November 2010 Very few Football League clubs have published details of ownership on their websites so I doubt that the Football League will make an example of Leicester City. http://www.football-league.co.uk/regulations/20100801/section-9-association-dual-interests_2284800_2125750#92 92. PUBLICATION OF OWNERSHIP 92.1 Each Club shall publish the identities of the ultimate owner (Person, not Entity) of each Significant Interest in the Club (as that term is defined in Rule 1.1 of Appendix 4)*.That information shall as a minimum be published on the Club's official website on a page accessible directly from the home page of that official club website. Rule 92 is so complicated that it is practically unenforceable. AlthoughI find it very unlikely we will ever find out, I imagine us being the first club under these new rules can only help our case.
Foxes_Trust Posted 18 November 2010 Author Posted 18 November 2010 AlthoughI find it very unlikely we will ever find out, I imagine us being the first club under these new rules can only help our case. From the direct dialogue we have had with the Football League that is certainly correct, they do not want the new transparency rules effectiveness questioned the first time they are applied, and that is what is starting to happen due to our club not releasing the information
Onions Posted 18 November 2010 Posted 18 November 2010 Oh yes this is just what we need, we start playing well, got a bit of money behind us, and then a bunch of idiots try and get the club to look bad. God damn, who gives a shits? We're playing well, everything else looks sorted, just get behind the team. If people spent as much time supporting this club as trying to drag it down we would be 15 points clear.
unreachable Posted 18 November 2010 Posted 18 November 2010 From the direct dialogue we have had with the Football League that is certainly correct, they do not want the new transparency rules effectiveness questioned the first time they are applied, and that is what is starting to happen due to our club not releasing the information I applaud your efforts. I withdraw my general comment above about compliance by Football League clubs but to satisfy my curiosity I have checked the websites of Championship clubs. LCFC and Cardiff, QPR, Doncaster, Norwich, Reading, Coventry, Ipswich and S****horpe appear not to have complied. Some other clubs have only stated their directors but not share ownership. The regulation is quoted as having come into effect on 3rd September 2010. The Football League may be working hard behind the scenes but public disclosure seems slow.
MPH Posted 18 November 2010 Posted 18 November 2010 Oh yes this is just what we need, we start playing well, got a bit of money behind us, and then a bunch of idiots try and get the club to look bad. God damn, who gives a shits? We're playing well, everything else looks sorted, just get behind the team. If people spent as much time supporting this club as trying to drag it down we would be 15 points clear.
CKB Posted 18 November 2010 Posted 18 November 2010 Yay well done Foxes Trust in bringing more un needed scope on this takeover.. Sometimes you are a total hindrance on our club and seem to at times take great pleasure in trying to make things look bad.. I swear at times you as people would love to see us as the club we once were and not progress at all????? that being the club that was in the doldrums playing at Filbert Street and not being able to progress at all due to no ambition at all from any of the directors, chairman, etc and be happy with being in division 3 infront of 2,000 fans And the way you stomp yourself around like you are big shots is a joke "FOXES TRUST REGISTER COMPLAINT TO FOOTBALL LEAGUE" well whoop de do, well done! I hope the FL get back and i hope LCFC get back and put in every detail right down to Top's personal ladyboy and when he opens his bowels on a daily basis If things are being handled right, if we are showing ambition...then why put like i said more un needed scope on us??? IF something comes out which is VERY dodgy then i'll be the first to eat humble pie, but right now i only see this as total hindrance!
B52 Posted 18 November 2010 Posted 18 November 2010 Formal complaint now registered with the Football League Could you please tell me why you are interested in this information? Personally i don't know why anybody should be interested when the buyers already are approved.......
Finnegan Posted 18 November 2010 Posted 18 November 2010 A few on here have already said pretty much what I was going to, though I was probably going to rant a bit less and giggle a bit more. 'Cos you have to laugh, really, don't you? Committee of silly sad-sacks in disproportionate sense-of-self-importance shocker. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying the club should be held completely unaccountable but is this really in any way good timing? And do you need to advertise it publicly that you, the trust, are doing it? Way to completely misjudge the supporters you're supposed to be representing. Want to do the supporters all a really great, big, favour? Stop alienating yourself from the owners, go get into bed with Top, suck his wee Thai winkle and get him to lower ticket prices and buy us a few superstars with his own private bzillions. Thanks.
Guest Mee-9 Posted 18 November 2010 Posted 18 November 2010 Who gives a shit? Its done, were on the way up, were finally playing decent football. Trying to make the club have a bad name? Fools.
Len Finsbury Posted 18 November 2010 Posted 18 November 2010 Committee of silly sad-sacks in disproportionate sense-of-self-importance Is that straight out of the Oxford English Dictionary? Certainly seems an appropriate description!
marbelladave Posted 18 November 2010 Posted 18 November 2010 I am astonished by the lack of interest shown by many in this matter. Does it really not matter to you who runs the club in which we invest so much time, effort and money? Is transparency and accountbility only of importance when we are playing crap and losing? The long term stability of the club is at issue here, the arival of Eriksson and a few loanees to boost the clubs results and it appears that all other considerations go out the window. No wonder the club feels that it can do what it likes regarding prices, crowd control and the rest if fans are content to become a revenue stream for owners that we do not even know. Bread and fooking circuses anyone?
Fez of Mahrez Posted 18 November 2010 Posted 18 November 2010 I am astonished by the lack of interest shown by many in this matter. Does it really not matter to you who runs the club in which we invest so much time, effort and money? Is transparency and accountbility only of importance when we are playing crap and losing? The long term stability of the club is at issue here, the arival of Eriksson and a few loanees to boost the clubs results and it appears that all other considerations go out the window. No wonder the club feels that it can do what it likes regarding prices, crowd control and the rest if fans are content to become a revenue stream for owners that we do not even know. Bread and fooking circuses anyone? Couldn't agree more.
Babylon Posted 18 November 2010 Posted 18 November 2010 I thought the last time we had this conversation it was decided the club didn't actually need to release any information until March/April time? And releasing the information early was only seen to be playing within "the spirit of the new laws" to quote the FT.
Thracian Posted 18 November 2010 Posted 18 November 2010 I am astonished by the lack of interest shown by many in this matter. Does it really not matter to you who runs the club in which we invest so much time, effort and money? Is transparency and accountbility only of importance when we are playing crap and losing? The long term stability of the club is at issue here, the arival of Eriksson and a few loanees to boost the clubs results and it appears that all other considerations go out the window. No wonder the club feels that it can do what it likes regarding prices, crowd control and the rest if fans are content to become a revenue stream for owners that we do not even know. Bread and fooking circuses anyone? Well said.
B52 Posted 18 November 2010 Posted 18 November 2010 The owners are approved. Why is this so importent? The only ones I can see have any interest in this is the gutter press and people disliking either Leicester or Sven.
davieG Posted 18 November 2010 Posted 18 November 2010 I am astonished by the lack of interest shown by many in this matter. Does it really not matter to you who runs the club in which we invest so much time, effort and money? Is transparency and accountbility only of importance when we are playing crap and losing? The long term stability of the club is at issue here, the arival of Eriksson and a few loanees to boost the clubs results and it appears that all other considerations go out the window. No wonder the club feels that it can do what it likes regarding prices, crowd control and the rest if fans are content to become a revenue stream for owners that we do not even know. Bread and fooking circuses anyone? Couldn't agree more. Agreed, I'd certainly like to know. Why not turn the question around what is the club so afraid of by not telling us, why is it so important to them to keep it a secret. That say's more to me and makes the whole situation highly suspicious. Also have people forgotten how many clubs have welcome so called saviours only to find them to be a bunch of incompetents.
breadandcheese Posted 18 November 2010 Posted 18 November 2010 I am astonished by the lack of interest shown by many in this matter. Does it really not matter to you who runs the club in which we invest so much time, effort and money? Is transparency and accountbility only of importance when we are playing crap and losing? The long term stability of the club is at issue here, the arival of Eriksson and a few loanees to boost the clubs results and it appears that all other considerations go out the window. No wonder the club feels that it can do what it likes regarding prices, crowd control and the rest if fans are content to become a revenue stream for owners that we do not even know. Bread and fooking circuses anyone? Absolutely. The short-sightedness of some fans is astounding. I bet Portsmouth fans were delighted when Milan sold the club to billionaire Gaydamek, who couldn't afford it, sold it on to someone else who then sold it to another billionaire (who was fictitious). We can watch their story unfolding right now as they went into administration and faced going out of business.
Finnegan Posted 18 November 2010 Posted 18 November 2010 As I said, I am not saying the club and it's owners should be unacountable. I just think that publicly calling them in to question before there is any due cause for alarm is not only rocking the boat but largely smacks of the Trust looking to flex their sense of importance. Assuming this could be handled privately between the club, Trust and league - why, at a time when fans are finally feeling upbeat and optimistic - would you look to cause alarm or bring yet more attention to the persistent drama of our boardroom. We don't even know that there's anything sordid about our ownership so why make a scene in public? I welcome the Trust's exploration into our well-being but I stand by what I said, the announcement could have waited until there WAS an issue. But I suppose if they got their way without announcing it first, gasp, they might not get the credit.
Houdini Logic Posted 18 November 2010 Posted 18 November 2010 I am astonished by the lack of interest shown by many in this matter. Does it really not matter to you who runs the club in which we invest so much time, effort and money? Is transparency and accountbility only of importance when we are playing crap and losing? The long term stability of the club is at issue here, the arival of Eriksson and a few loanees to boost the clubs results and it appears that all other considerations go out the window. No wonder the club feels that it can do what it likes regarding prices, crowd control and the rest if fans are content to become a revenue stream for owners that we do not even know. Bread and fooking circuses anyone? It's like wanting to know the name of the man who's going to rape you - it's not going to change anything, so who gives a fuck?
davieG Posted 18 November 2010 Posted 18 November 2010 As I said, I am not saying the club and it's owners should be unacountable. I just think that publicly calling them in to question before there is any due cause for alarm is not only rocking the boat but largely smacks of the Trust looking to flex their sense of importance. Assuming this could be handled privately between the club, Trust and league - why, at a time when fans are finally feeling upbeat and optimistic - would you look to cause alarm or bring yet more attention to the persistent drama of our boardroom. We don't even know that there's anything sordid about our ownership so why make a scene in public? I welcome the Trust's exploration into our well-being but I stand by what I said, the anouncement could have waited until there WAS an issue. But I suppose if they got their way without anouncing it first, gasp, they might not get the credit. Depends which foot you want to put the boot on, as I understand it the club agreed with the FL that they would announce it in the next couple of weeks, they haven't done so despite being asked several times. So to me the blame lies with them and if they're happy to ride rough shod over promises this soon what hope is there for transparency later when it might be significant. If the club want things to run smoothly then they need to behave after all they seem to be sticklers for the rules with respect to the fans behaviour. Sure it wont change anything at this stage but it's the principle of being honest and open that is being flouted which is why the rules were introduced.,
Finnegan Posted 18 November 2010 Posted 18 November 2010 Yes, that's the part I agree with. But like I said, does it require a public announcement or could it be handled behind the scenes? Do we need to cause public concern in order for the Trust to be able to flaunt some authority?
davieG Posted 18 November 2010 Posted 18 November 2010 Yes, that's the part I agree with. But like I said, does it require a public announcement or could it be handled behind the scenes? Do we need to cause public concern in order for the Trust to be able to flaunt some authority? I'm guessing that if they had done and it was found out there'd be people complaining that the FT were acting like a secret society
Finnegan Posted 18 November 2010 Posted 18 November 2010 I don't think so. A silly minority, I suppose.
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