Michael Johnson on loan ?

[sphericalfox]

I'm not against strengthening the squad of course. But I can't see someone coming in and walking straight into the starting line up, certainly not in place of Wellens as you have said in your example.

My hypothetical example is based on a player 'walking in', thus to accomodate the actual change of formation. Until that player is ready to play there is no point starting with a 4-4-2. If we were say chasing a game, then I'd suggest dependant on who was on the pitch, which if we are talking about this all occurring in Abe's absence, taking off Moreno, or whoever is covering that position, possibly Wellens?, and putting in Joe Bloggs/Johnson

[hackneyfox]

kitchandpro

Have you ever agreed with a player being replaced?

And I'm not saying that any of the midfield 3 should be, it's just that every time a new player comes in you seem to spend hours on here supporting the player who may be dropped for them.

We can't play 4 3 3 all season, none of the midfield 3 are so great that a decent manager can't work out how to negate at least one of them, at that point 4 2 3 doesn't work and you need to mix things up.

With our current squad we have no obvious replacements for the loan back 4, the current midfield 3, Dyer, Gallagher or Vassel.

In January we need to sign or continue with the loans of

A goalie

4 defenders

2 midfielders

2 goal scorers

Abe will go on duty, players will get injured, suspeneded or lose form.

We currently have Berner, Hobbs, Moreno, Moussa and Waghorn as fit and perhaps capable replacements.

[Kitchandro]

kitchandpro

Have you ever agreed with a player being replaced?

And I'm not saying that any of the midfield 3 should be, it's just that every time a new player comes in you seem to spend hours on here supporting the player who may be dropped for them.

We can't play 4 3 3 all season, none of the midfield 3 are so great that a decent manager can't work out how to negate at least one of them, at that point 4 2 3 doesn't work and you need to mix things up.

With our current squad we have no obvious replacements for the loan back 4, the current midfield 3, Dyer, Gallagher or Vassel.

In January we need to sign or continue with the loans of

A goalie

4 defenders

2 midfielders

2 goal scorers

Abe will go on duty, players will get injured, suspeneded or lose form.

We currently have Berner, Hobbs, Moreno, Moussa and Waghorn as fit and perhaps capable replacements.

Like I said, I'm not against strengthening the squad. But I'm not going to say players should be thrown staright into the starting lineup when it's performing so cohesively.

Johnson may well be a good addition, but I wouldn't have him in instead of King or Wellens at the moment. They are both key players and are playing very well.

I think we are more in need of a striker, though Vassell's performance yesterday made me not so desperate

[hackneyfox]

But you didn't want Weale, Hobbs, Morrison or Fryatt replaced

Or most of them.

You would have dropped Vassel the other week.

King & Wellens are playing well, but have had poor games in the past, and Wellens can be expcted to get a suspension before the end of the season.

Too many people are too quick to slag a player for one bad game but you can go the other way as well.

Aren't we all in agreement that this is a much better side than we had earlier in the season?

I'd argue that it is also a much better side than we had last season.

That has come about through some players improving their game, and those that didn't have that ability being replaced.

[Kitchandro]

But you didn't want Weale, Hobbs, Morrison or Fryatt replaced

Or most of them.

You would have dropped Vassel the other week.

King & Wellens are playing well, but have had poor games in the past, and Wellens can be expcted to get a suspension before the end of the season.

Too many people are too quick to slag a player for one bad game but you can go the other way as well.

Aren't we all in agreement that this is a much better side than we had earlier in the season?

I'd argue that it is also a much better side than we had last season.

That has come about through some players improving their game, and those that didn't have that ability being replaced.

I never liked Morrison at centre back

Weale is a good keeper I still stand by that but in recent weeks he's made too many errors. A few weeks ago he deserved a place when Logan was playing instead.

I wanted Fryatt to play when no one was scoring yes.

You have a go at me for never wanting players dropped, then slate me for wanting Vassell dropped? Make your mind up. For what it's worth, I was right, Dyer is better than Vassell on the right. Vassell in the centre is a different story on yesterday's evidence.

Every player has bad games, what's your point?

I'll want players replaced when they are plaing shit for a long period, not when we have just thrashed someone 5-1.

You're desperate to have a go at me but you aren't really making any decent points.

As for players being injured - you don't know who's going to get injured so how can you say they will?

[Miquel The Work Geordie]

You can never have too many good players.

[hackneyfox]

You wanted Vassel to be dropped as he had replaced one of your favourites.

You wanted Morrison played at right back, he doesn't even like playing there.

It's not case of wanting an argument it's just that your positive support of every player gets a bit tiring at times.

You only want a player to be replaced when 'plaing shit for a long period, not when we have just thrashed someone 5-1'

Well sometimes players have clearly lost it, Weale, Morrison & Fryatt as examples, and need to be dropped immediately for the good of the team and them.

And just because you've won 5-1 it doesn't mean things can't and won't be changed.

I want Weale replaced on Monday well Kirkland turns up.

Vassel, Gallagher & Dyer looked good yesterday but are very lightweight, I wouldn't expect them to do the same next week.

I hope they do.

PS

Can't remember which game it was but a reporter in a daily this week claimed that a team had 'overachieved last season'.

You're like a one man cult of positivity.

Nothing wrong with that but just because others aren't like that it doesn't mean you have to have a go at them.

[hackneyfox]

sorry, just read this again

'As for players being injured - you don't know who's going to get injured so how can you say they will? '

ffs as a manger you are surely expected to assume the worst and make sure you have cover.

I can't guarantee that Wellens will get a red this year, and recently he seems to have quietened down, but based on so many red mist moments in the past I'd assume it and make sure we had cover.

I can't guarantee that an individual player will have a bad run of form, but I can guarantee that someone in our current 11 will.

[Kitchandro]

sorry, just read this again

'As for players being injured - you don't know who's going to get injured so how can you say they will? '

ffs as a manger you are surely expected to assume the worst and make sure you have cover.

I can't guarantee that Wellens will get a red this year, and recently he seems to have quietened down, but based on so many red mist moments in the past I'd assume it and make sure we had cover.

I can't guarantee that an individual player will have a bad run of form, but I can guarantee that someone in our current 11 will.

What on earth is your point?

[Kitchandro]

You wanted Vassel to be dropped as he had replaced one of your favourites.

You wanted Morrison played at right back, he doesn't even like playing there.

It's not case of wanting an argument it's just that your positive support of every player gets a bit tiring at times.

You only want a player to be replaced when 'plaing shit for a long period, not when we have just thrashed someone 5-1'

Well sometimes players have clearly lost it, Weale, Morrison & Fryatt as examples, and need to be dropped immediately for the good of the team and them.

And just because you've won 5-1 it doesn't mean things can't and won't be changed.

I want Weale replaced on Monday well Kirkland turns up.

Vassel, Gallagher & Dyer looked good yesterday but are very lightweight, I wouldn't expect them to do the same next week.

I hope they do.

PS

Can't remember which game it was but a reporter in a daily this week claimed that a team had 'overachieved last season'.

You're like a one man cult of positivity.

Nothing wrong with that but just because others aren't like that it doesn't mean you have to have a go at them.

If you're hear to wind me up, I'm not in the mood. Get a life.

How do you know who my favourites are? Maybe I just rate different players to you.

Morrison played well at right back last season. Rather him than Lamey thanks.

I can assure you I think plenty of players in the squad are shit.

Don't talk down to me like I'm just some muppet do gooder who loves every player we have and doesn't want to see them dropped.

If you want players dropped after brilliant performances you want your head checking.

Stop deliberately ignoring parts of what I have said just so you can tell me I'm 'Mr.Positivity' and not someone who says it like it is.

[hackneyfox]

whoooooooooooooooooooooosh

But it was to do with ''As for players being injured - you don't know who's going to get injured so how can you say they will? '

I can't say which player will but the chances of 3 midfield players going the rest of the season without an injury are low.

I'll let someone else try

[Kitchandro]

whoooooooooooooooooooooosh

But it was to do with ''As for players being injured - you don't know who's going to get injured so how can you say they will? '

I can't say which player will but the chances of 3 midfield players going the rest of the season without an injury are low.

I'll let someone else try

yeh, and that whooosh thing, stop that too, you aint funny and it doesn't make you any more clever.

'I can't say which player will but the chances of 3 midfield players going the rest of the season without an injury are low.'

So? Should we drop them before they are injured then?

[hackneyfox]

If you're hear to wind me up, I'm not in the mood. Get a life.

How do you know who my favourites are? Maybe I just rate different players to you.

Morrison played well at right back last season. Rather him than Lamey thanks.

Morrison isn't up against Lamey for fullback anymore

I can assure you I think plenty of players in the squad are shit.

But you never think the first team should change, you've only recently agreed about Morrison, Weale & Fryatt

Don't talk down to me like I'm just some muppet do gooder who loves every player we have and doesn't want to see them dropped.

If you want players dropped after brilliant performances you want your head checking.

No player is ever guaranteed a place and we were awful in the first half.

Sorry, everyone else on this board thought we were, you didn't.

Stop deliberately ignoring parts of what I have said just so you can tell me I'm 'Mr.Positivity' and not someone who says it like it is.

We all have differing opinions on what 'it' actually is, I tend to answer the bits that are answerable.

overachieved doesn't exist in your world

yeh, and that whooosh thing, stop that too, you aint funny and it doesn't make you any more clever.

'I can't say which player will but the chances of 3 midfield players going the rest of the season without an injury are low.'

So? Should we drop them before they are injured then?

I hadn't said they should be dropped

So where does that leave you?

[Kitchandro]

I hadn't said they should be dropped

So where does that leave you?

Why you arguing then? Muppet

[Kitchandro]

So when did I say Morrison should be playing ahead of Naughton? Come one, find me a quote. Find one. Or shut up.

Tell me who you would drop from Saturday's game. I'd drop Bednar, We were a completely different team after he went off. If Kirkland's fit I'd have him in.

Can't you see what utter contradictory shit you are talking? You say I didn't want Weale, Fryatt or Morrison dropped (not true). The you say I only recently wanted them dropped. You say I don't ever want a player dropped. Then you say I wanted Vassell dropped. Then you say I didn't think we were awful in the first half. Go on then find me a quote where I said that. Or shut up.

What I said was we had most of the possession in the first half, so the penalty wasn't against the run of play. Because Doncaster did fvck all after their goal.

[Kitchandro]

And don't you dare say that you didn't imply I wanted Morrison in for Naughton. Because clearly you are implying that. Which is utter shit.

When it was a chioce between Morrison, Lamey or Neilson, which is when I had an opinion on the subject, I said I would have Morrison.

[hackneyfox]

Well the general consensus is that Doncaster should have had 2 and could have had 3.

But don't let that get in the way.

It's all a matter of when people see that someone needs replacing, if only for a couple of games.

You finally saw it with Morrison, Weale and Fryatt but you've argued the arse out of it with all of them.

And last season Morrison was better than Neilson, I'd sooner have neither but on what I have seen then Neilson improved this season and Morrison looked like a non-league player.

What did imply again

;-)

[Kitchandro]

Well the general consensus is that Doncaster should have had 2 and could have had 3.

But don't let that get in the way.

It's all a matter of when people see that someone needs replacing, if only for a couple of games.

You finally saw it with Morrison, Weale and Fryatt but you've argued the arse out of it with all of them.

And last season Morrison was better than Neilson, I'd sooner have neither but on what I have seen then Neilson improved this season and Morrison looked like a non-league player.

What did imply again

;-)

Yeh, 2 of which were in the first 6 minutes. The only other chance came from a shit Davies back header. Did you actually go to the game?

If you did you'd have seen that we had the majority of possession but the passing was crap. Vassell missed a decent chance, Gallagher had one deflected wide when he was in the box, Wellens had a shot that was just over. We were mainly in there half. But don't let that get in the way of your view that we were completely dominated.

Remind me, where was Morrison playing this season? Was it right back or centre back? hmmm, I guess you can't compare him with Neilson this season then.

I reiterate, centre back aint his best position. That's why he looked decent at right back last season and a non-league player this. Because he wasn't in his best position this season.

[Kitchandro]

And I don't retract my statements about Weale or Fryatt either. At the time they were right, but things change.

[hackneyfox]

Yes I went to the game as did all the others who mentioned that we were shit in the first others.

Some of them have claimed it was our worst 45 i a few years, I'd disagree with that but we were poor.

Why there are even a few who thought we got the result as Donny caved in and that if we were any good we would have had 7.

And your opinions about Weale & Fryatt were right at the time but things have now changed?

So everyone else who called them some time ago were just plain wrong and lucky in calling them early?

They couldn't perhaps just have been able to see it earlier than you?

[Kitchandro]

Yes I went to the game as did all the others who mentioned that we were shit in the first others.

Some of them have claimed it was our worst 45 i a few years, I'd disagree with that but we were poor.

Why there are even a few who thought we got the result as Donny caved in and that if we were any good we would have had 7.

And your opinions about Weale & Fryatt were right at the time but things have now changed?

So everyone else who called them some time ago were just plain wrong and lucky in calling them early?

They couldn't perhaps just have been able to see it earlier than you?

Weale deserves to be dropped now because of a number of mistakes. Before he was making those mistakes he warranted a starting place above Logan. So yeh, whoever said he should be dropped when he hadn't made mistakes and we had no one better were wrong.

Stop saying we were poor in the first half. It is an irrlevant point because I said we were poor. Stop saying we were poor as if I didn't say so.

[hackneyfox]

okay you didn't say we weren't poor

'How can people say we scored the penalty against the run of play? I agree Doncaster used the ball better, and we kept giving it away but still we had most of the possession.'

cop

[Kitchandro]

okay you didn't say we weren't poor

'How can people say we scored the penalty against the run of play? I agree Doncaster used the ball better, and we kept giving it away but still we had most of the possession.'

cop

Yeh exactly, I didn't say we weren't poor

[BrummieFOX]

You are two boring b*stards.

[Fox You Forest]

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