Hull player ratings

[Narborough_fox]

Can this thread not just be merged into the "get rid of Wellens thread".

Some people defy belief. Giving King a higher rating because he made some good runs. Please.

Get off your high horse. Did you see Wellens yesterday? He was the worst player on the pitch by a mile, couldn't make a simple pass, moaned at his team-mates for his mistakes and didn't do anything of any note. He was SHIT.

[Bert]

Can this thread not just be merged into the "get rid of Wellens thread".

Some people defy belief. Giving King a higher rating because he made some good runs. Please.

Was Wellens better then?

[lcfcjim]

Schmeichel- 8

Peltier- 7

Bamba- 7

Mills- 4

Konchesky- 9*

Danns- 5

Wellens - 1

King - 6

Dyer- 5

Nugent - 6

Beckford - 5 (Cant really judge too much, starting to grow on me - showing a little more effort)

Subs-

St Ledger - 8

Gallagher - 3 (Wrong change IMO, needed someone to run around and hold up the ball, which Nugent was doing adequately)

Fernandes - 4 (needed to protect Peltier who tired as the game concluded)

[KIRBYFOX93]

Schmeichel 7 - Another top drawer save, couldn't have done anything about either goal.

Peltier 6 - Was held back after Mills got sent off and got done a couple of times by Stewart.

Mills 6 - I'm not blaming him for anything. Put a FANTASTIC block in and gets sent off .

Bamba 4 - Showed again today he is a joke, he messed up in the lead up to Mills getting sent off, could have given two penalties away and was constantly giving possession away. Sell him.

Konchesky 9 - Scored, huffed and puffed all game, up and down his line. Fantastic.

Danns 2 - Donkey

Wellens 7 - Once we went a man behind he protected the back four well and got stuck in, it was obvious we were going for the draw and he stayed solid until their late goal.

King 7 - see Wellens.

Dyer 7 - Huffed and puffed as well, put a good defensive shift in as well and looked dangerous on the break.

Beckford 6.5 - Looked lively whilst he was on,

Nugent 9 - Did everything you would ask of a lone striker when you've only got 10 men, chased everything, held the ball up and was a constant threat.

St.Ledger 7 - Did well, got an elbow from Fryatt (then Fryatt goes down holding his face...) but stayed solid.

Gallagher 5 - Cannot play in a game like that and can't play as a lone striker. Said it all when he was one on one with Hobbs, a natural striker would have ran at Hobbs.

Fernandes 6 - A couple of good tackles and neat touches.

Pearson 8 - He's getting a lot of abuse for his substitutes but those people are hypocrites (i.e. Kitchandro... ) He had to bring St.Ledger on and you have to look at it this way... we're not going to take another defender off and we're not going to take King or Wellens off. If we then took a winger off we would have had no balance so he had to take Beckford or Nugent off... imo Nugent can play the lone role better hence the substitution - spot on. Then he took Danns off when he was SHIT - good move but then realised Gallagher was all over the place and so to steady the ship brought Fernandes on and moved Gallagher up top. Nugent couldn't have carried on much longer the way that he was going.

Referee 0 - I bet he's off to Maryland Chicken right now.

We are all entitled to our opinion but urs on bamba is a joke .... He is by far the best player in out team an u are a fckin idiot tryin to say sell him thank **** your not our manager thats all im sayin... Moron

[Kibworth Fox]

Kasper - 8

Pelts - 7

Mills - 2 Stonewall pen, i think he's a bit thick.

Bamba - 5

Konch - 9

Danns - 6

Wellens - 2 been terrible for our last 3 games imo

King - 2 did he play??

Dyer - 5

Beckford - 7 looked sharp, pity Mills ruined his day.

Nugent - 8 works hard for the team

Subs

SSL - 8 did well when coming on.

Gally - 4 looked lost in midfield and waste of time as a lone forward

Gelson - 6 did ok

[Bert]

We are all entitled to our opinion but urs on bamba is a joke .... He is by far the best player in out team an u are a fckin idiot tryin to say sell him thank **** your not our manager thats all im sayin... Moron

If you think Bamba is the best player in our team then YOU, are the moron.

[CountesthorpeFox]

Was Wellens better then?

I wouldnt go that far. It just makes me laugh how people will give obscure reasoning to argue a good performance for King. If the same was said of Wellens people would completely disregard it.

[CountesthorpeFox]

Get off your high horse. Did you see Wellens yesterday? He was the worst player on the pitch by a mile, couldn't make a simple pass, moaned at his team-mates for his mistakes and didn't do anything of any note. He was SHIT.

Yes I did.

Well for obvious reasons Mills was worse.

Cant really see how you can argue Danns had a better game?

Problem with alot of people on here is that they would rather judge a player on what they didnt do wrong, rather than what they did. Wellens made alot of errors but at least he gets involved. People will argue Danns had a better because he did less wrong but what he did do . . was equally as error-ridden.

I just think its an unfortunate mentallity that alot of our fans have as a result of being quite bad for a number of years. Judge players on what they do rather than what they dont do.

I dont mean to sound like im on a high horse but I appreciate this post will probably further that impression.

[CountesthorpeFox]

Kasper - 8

Pelts - 7

Mills - 2 Stonewall pen, i think he's a bit thick.

Bamba - 5

Konch - 9

Danns - 6

Wellens - 2 been terrible for our last 3 games imo

King - 2 did he play??

Dyer - 5

Beckford - 7 looked sharp, pity Mills ruined his day.

Nugent - 8 works hard for the team

Subs

SSL - 8 did well when coming on.

Gally - 4 looked lost in midfield and waste of time as a lone forward

Gelson - 6 did ok

Take it you didnt make the trip to Fratton Park?

[Kitchandro]

Schmeichel 7 - A couple of fantastic saves

Peltier 6

Mills 5

Bamba 6

Konchesky 8 - Great goal. Looked like he was playing in front of Dyer at times, great play Konch.

Danns 6 - Better than Gallagher and Dyer. Showed pace and trickery, just lacked something at the end. Unlucky to be taken off.

Wellens 6 - Couldn't get in the game that much (too direct I think for most of the time) but did well in the second half, getting stuck in etc

King 7 - Broke play up well

Dyer 3

Beckford 6

Nugent 6

I think you talk a lot of sense most of the time but your hate of Gallagher is so irrational. Danns was on the pitch for an hour and there's no way he was any better than Gallagher, who was pushed up front on his own for the last 20 which was completely against his strengths. I'm not trying to convince you Gally played well but it's very obvious you are doing your best to defend Danns because he is in direct competition with him for a starting place. Danns was garbage and should have come off after half an hour.

[Fox92]

Can this thread not just be merged into the "get rid of Wellens thread".

Some people defy belief. Giving King a higher rating because he made some good runs. Please.

I usually agree with you, and I am a big fan of Wellens myself, but he didn't have a very good game on Saturday. Ok, apart from Konchesky, the rest of the team were poor as well, but Wellens wasn't his usual self. He made a few stupid passes, and never seemed to think before passing (which is something he usually does).

He is still a good player though, no doubt about it, he just had a bad day at the office. His ball through to Nugent for our goal was fantastic though!!

And on King, I thought he was decent. More than making runs which people seem to be talking about, King was good off of the ball again. He broke play up well and made several challenges, even look back at the highlights, Fryatt has a chance and the player coming to challenge him is King. That is why I gave him a 7.

I think you talk a lot of sense most of the time but your hate of Gallagher is so irrational. Danns was on the pitch for an hour and there's no way he was any better than Gallagher, who was pushed up front on his own for the last 20 which was completely against his strengths. I'm not trying to convince you Gally played well but it's very obvious you are doing your best to defend Danns because he is in direct competition with him for a starting place. Danns was garbage and should have come off after half an hour.

The thing is, I know Gallagher had hardly any support, but he doesn't even challenge. And he says playing up front is his favourite position There is never any effort in him, and when he did have the ball, he tried a stupid shot instead of picking out Fernandes who was making a fantastic run to his right.

I don't rate him, but that isn't taking over me when I watch Leicester. We can get better wingers than both Gallagher and Dyer, who I feel are the weak links.

Don't forget as well, Danns was out of position. I felt he was unlucky to be subbed, because althought he wasn't too good, he wasn't too bad either - he was no worser than Dyer.

[TheOnlyWayIsSchlupp!]

Schmeichel - 9 Top Quality, again.. always plays with passion unlucky in the 2 goals

Peltier - 7 Solid, had a tough winger in Stewart to mark

Bamba - 4 Too many mistakes, doesnt seem to fit our play anymore... Get SSL with Mills

Mills - 5 Silly sending off but solid before that

Konchesky - 10 Definitely man of the match, quality goals and so solid, just ran and ran all game

Danns - 3 Did he play? didnt help Peltier out at all

Wellens - 4 Not convinced by him this season, cant seem to keep the ball

King - 6 Few good runs, floated in and out of the game

Dyer - 6 Helped Konchesky out but seemed to be playing Left-Back not on the wing

Beckford - 5 Was having a good game until he was taken off, maybe should've stayed on

Nugent - 6 Put the effort in but seems to be lacking confidence with his finishing

Subs:

Gallagher - 4 Not the right substitution, cant play on his own up front

SSL - 8 Quality as usual, play him instead of Bamba

Fernandes - 7 Did the job, defended well, play him instead of wellens

[Guest]

Schmeichel - 8

Peltier - 7

Mills-5

Bamba - 8

Konchesky - 8

Danns -7

Wellens - 6

King - 6

Dyer - 7

Nugent - 7

Beckford - 6

St Ledger - 6

Gallagher - 6

Fernandes - 6

Pearson - 6

[Kibworth Fox]

Take it you didnt make the trip to Fratton Park?

Yes i did as it happens, just think he's not playing to the standard he's set for himself.

[Kibworth Fox]

Yes I did.

Well for obvious reasons Mills was worse.

Cant really see how you can argue Danns had a better game?

Problem with alot of people on here is that they would rather judge a player on what they didnt do wrong, rather than what they did. Wellens made alot of errors but at least he gets involved. People will argue Danns had a better because he did less wrong but what he did do . . was equally as error-ridden.

I just think its an unfortunate mentallity that alot of our fans have as a result of being quite bad for a number of years. Judge players on what they do rather than what they dont do.

I dont mean to sound like im on a high horse but I appreciate this post will probably further that impression.

Surely it's easier to be involved playing in the middle of midfield, rather than outside?

[CountesthorpeFox]

Surely it's easier to be involved playing in the middle of midfield, rather than outside?

Fair point. I guess you could argue it depends how you play . . i.e. Pennant and Etherington seem to see as much of the ball as Whitehead for Stoke but then we dont play like Stoke.

The stem of my argument though is that Danns was as equally counter productive as Wellens was where he was involved, but as Danns wasnt as involved as much it didn't seem that he was as bad. i.e. his percentage of bad passes was the same but the amount was less.