Tom Adeyemi

[Guest MattP]

[Finchy]

Ultimately MattP, it's not your place to say how someone should react to being racially abused.

[Guest MattP]

Ultimately MattP, it's not your place to say how someone should react to being racially abused.

Why? I've been racially abused myself, I've worked for years in a city that's one of the most multi-ethnic in Britain. I've met of every creed and colour, I think I'm in a fairly decent position to do it.

Obviously I'm not saying everyone should react the same but crying on a football pitch appears to be a ridiculous reaction, not to mention he's now going to be a target for a lot of fans in the future if they know they can reduce him to tears that easily.

Have you ever seen anyone react like that on a football pitch before? I'm struggling to think it's a co-incidence that's the first time someone has done it from alledged racist abuse is co-inciding at the same time our country and sports channels have decided to become obsessed with anyone who might have made a racist remark.

[Samilktray]

Your an idiot.

[Guest MattP]

Your an idiot.

Wonderful.

[Stadt]

Obviously with what's been said is not 'acceptable' but if he's been called 'a black cnut' then it is racist but surely it's stating the obvious that it's his skin colour, say a Welsh, Scottish or generally a white player was called 'a white cnut' there would not be anything said. I agree this is out of order but crying, I could undertsand more if someone had said C**n or N****r. But recently racism has been blown massively out of proportion, with what Suarez and Terry been publicly rejected almost then Diane Abbott saying what she did it's not really caused an uproar but if a white person would have said an equally offensive comment about black people they probably

would have sacked and destroyed by the media.

[Dan]

People just love to hate in this country, and racism is without doubt the best form of this, from virtually every side.

[Captain...]

I agree that there's absolutely no place for it in society, let alone football.

For me, it's interesting that Liverpool

have said they'll ban the supporter for life (and rightly so) because he called Adeyemi a 'black

bastard' and yet they're at pains to defend Suarez after he called Evra a nigger / negrito. Suarez may well have not realised the cultural differences and all that but why didn't Liverpool just say "yes it's wrong and we'll deal with it"?

Prob because Suarez is their best player who they wouldn't want to upset and the other is one is a supporter the club don't give a shit about.

Suarez did not call Evra a negro, he spoke to him in Spanish, negro means black in Spanish, negrito is just the diminutive meaning "little and black". This is why he was defended by Liverpool because these words are not racist words, but sound similar to words used in the English language to discriminate against black people. He has not been punished for the words he used but for what he said. "Why did you kick me?" - "Because you are black!"

As for this incident, there is an argument that you shouldn't abuse anyone from the stands, or in the street, or anywhere, for any reason, but that will happen whether you are black, white, fat, thin, tall or short. People like to identify weaknesses and exploit them. In England white people aren't abused over the colour of their skin because it is not a weakness or a disadvantage to have white skin. So other aspects are attacked, whether it is religion, sexuality, or appearance.

In my eyes there is also a difference between calling someone a black bastard to their face, there is no need to bring it up skin colour, and shouting abuse at someone from the stands. If you want to abuse someone on the pitch, you can't just shout "You bastard", that could be aimed at anyone, so you need an identifier to make the target clear. As previously mentioned is "you black bastard" really any different to "you lanky bastard" or "you fat bastard"?

In theory no, it is a using a distinguishing physical characteristic to identify intended target.

In reality yes, lanky and fat people were not enslaved as servants to the normal shaped people for decades unable to even drink from the same water fountain.

It all goes back to my second point, you can call someone a white bastard because there is no sense of this being a negative amongst white people, until such a time that black people and black communities do not see their skin colour as a disadvantage referring to someone as "a black ****** " will always be offensive.