Katy Posted 6 July 2005 Posted 6 July 2005 whos that directed to??? 133217[/snapback] Fairly obvious as to whom it is directed, no intention to offend you if that was your reaction ts10000. I am trying to suggest that the information should be shared rather than having to be pleaded for. Fox in the box appears to need us to implore him for tasty titbits hence the suggestion that we have no need for attention seeking. 133226[/snapback] My thoughts exactly SF!
Hitesh Posted 6 July 2005 Posted 6 July 2005 this is annoying! they have an "OPEN" meeting but what about the fans who cant make it? Its riduculous and im feeling let down by the club with the lack of information about everything!
Foxes_Trust Posted 6 July 2005 Posted 6 July 2005 The Trust will be publishing a report on our website about the Open Meeting, however we haven't written it up as yet as we have been concerntrating this evening on producing a response to the policing cost issue raised during the meeting Have you read the Leiceter Mercury's piece which covers several of the points raised http://www.thisisleicestershire.co.uk/disp...tentPK=12789255 We will post a link on here to our report once completed
LoneWolf Posted 6 July 2005 Posted 6 July 2005 Well, i dont really care who is coming to the club.. id rather be suprised ... but i wanna know what the 3rd kit looks like, the away kit is shhhhexy... but does any one know if it is the same material as the home one... if so... oooo i shex weed in my panchs
Guest Posted 7 July 2005 Posted 7 July 2005 whos that directed to??? 133217[/snapback] Fairly obvious as to whom it is directed, no intention to offend you if that was your reaction ts10000. I am trying to suggest that the information should be shared rather than having to be pleaded for. Fox in the box appears to need us to implore him for tasty titbits hence the suggestion that we have no need for attention seeking. 133226[/snapback] My thoughts exactly SF! 133233[/snapback] yup I agree, why dont they just tell us?????? Perhaps because some of us that went haven't been online?
Nationwider Posted 7 July 2005 Posted 7 July 2005 I don't think any of that was directed at you, Lisa. The poster of this topic made a great pronouncement that he/she is correspondent for the day, and then did nowt. The Trust will no doubt produce decent notes in due course, although all opinions will be welcomed. Some people are just too lazy to either go themselves, buy a paper or wait for the Trust - the "boo-hoo, the club keeps me in the dark, the fascists, why don't they tell us all their proposed transfer targets?" brigade, that is.
Fox in a Box Posted 7 July 2005 Author Posted 7 July 2005 whos that directed to??? 133217[/snapback] Fairly obvious as to whom it is directed, no intention to offend you if that was your reaction ts10000. I am trying to suggest that the information should be shared rather than having to be pleaded for. Fox in the box appears to need us to implore him for tasty titbits hence the suggestion that we have no need for attention seeking. 133226[/snapback] My thoughts exactly SF! 133233[/snapback]  yup I agree, why dont they just tell us?????? Perhaps because some of us that went haven't been online? 133453[/snapback] Myself and Lisa got off our backside to tell you what we heard and discussed next time make time to go yourself... You'd hate to see me angry I go green .....hulk sulk! And thanks foxestrust for taking notes, for the people who couldnt be bothered to turn up, yet have lots to say!
dhermon Posted 7 July 2005 Posted 7 July 2005 hmm nationwider do u forget that SOME of US are not living in england hmmm australia to leicester and back to australia just for a open meeting ...... i dont think so matey.................or am i just lazy as well btw WHATS WRONG WITH BEING LAZY ............
Nationwider Posted 7 July 2005 Posted 7 July 2005 I think you might have misunderstood my post. I'll explain: 1. The "lazy" comment was a dig at those that could have gone but didn't - those that then just demand info from others, instead of being patient and waiting for the Trust's notes like everyone else. 2. I didn't forget that some people don't live in England. Whilst I do, I live a long way from Leicester and couldn't go myself. 3. In general, it annoys me that people think the club should tell them everything. How naive are people to think that TD, CL etc are just going to announce their transfer plans to all and sundry? 4. There's nothing wrong with being lazy. I'm lazy. I just don't expect others to do everything else for me. 5. Fair play to those that went. 6. I'm really quite a nice person. Sorry if I offended you.
Fox in a Box Posted 7 July 2005 Author Posted 7 July 2005 I think you might have misunderstood my post. I'll explain:1. The "lazy" comment was a dig at those that could have gone but didn't - those that then just demand info from others, instead of being patient and waiting for the Trust's notes like everyone else. 2. I didn't forget that some people don't live in England. Whilst I do, I live a long way from Leicester and couldn't go myself. 3. In general, it annoys me that people think the club should tell them everything. How naive are people to think that TD, CL etc are just going to announce their transfer plans to all and sundry? 4. There's nothing wrong with being lazy. I'm lazy. I just don't expect others to do everything else for me. 5. Fair play to those that went. 6. I'm really quite a nice person. Sorry if I offended you. 133482[/snapback] FAIR PLAY on these comments!! couldnt say it better myself! P.S. The club did mention on the night that some had travelled from leeds, london and the east coast... And for the lcfc fans abroad, why doesnt someone set up a foriegn fans network like NORFOX has... one country one voice etc
Fez of Mahrez Posted 7 July 2005 Posted 7 July 2005 "Consultation with the fans" my arse. Bumping into Ginnetta in the Shires and noting what colour coat he's got on, more like.
Sir Fynwy Posted 7 July 2005 Posted 7 July 2005 "Consultation with the fans" my arse. Bumping into Ginnetta in the Shires and noting what colour coat he's got on, more like. 133489[/snapback] Actually the club were very open at this meeting and they did admit that there have been failings with the current way they communicate with fans, the main point of the meeting was for fans to tell them how the club can listen better, it was unfortunate that the attendance was so poor (even though it was boosted by some who were going to the cricket before it rained).
Fez of Mahrez Posted 7 July 2005 Posted 7 July 2005 "Consultation with the fans" my arse. Bumping into Ginnetta in the Shires and noting what colour coat he's got on, more like. 133489[/snapback] Actually the club were very open at this meeting and they did admit that there have been failings with the current way they communicate with fans, the main point of the meeting was for fans to tell them how the club can listen better, it was unfortunate that the attendance was so poor (even though it was boosted by some who were going to the cricket before it rained). 133493[/snapback] I'll believe it when I see it. They won't get proper attendances at this sort of thing until there is real evidence that the fans' views are being taken on board. Chicken and egg situation I know but the club need to convince us that we are being taken seriously after years of being f**ked over.
Guest Posted 7 July 2005 Posted 7 July 2005 The main issue with the meeting was how the club communicates to supporters, and the best way to do this. It was decided that there would be a panel made up of fans who would be made publically known so that fans who wanted to make any points on issues that arose could talk to these guys who would then represent them to the Club. This would be smaller than the Fans Forum, which was felt to be 'getting a bit stale'. Open meetings was an option, but to be honest, given the turnout at these things, even the groundshare where a lot of people seemed quite emotive, certainly on the forums, it does seem to me that when push comes to shove, nobody wants to actually get up there and voice their views! The possibility of voting, like with the Fosse v City, could be used with issues which can be solved with closed questions. For example, it looks like there will be a vote now on the Club's smoking policy for the season after this one.L1 (and N) was discussed. The police will not allow 'police-free' games; we had about 6 last season. Costs for the lowest category game are in the region of £6,000-£8,000. These are significantly higher for category A games. There is talk of reducing the allocation for Cardiff and Leeds, possibly banning them from the stadium. I just hope that the latter is not needed, as I'm sure these clubs will reciprocate. If that happens, then all those who joined in the disgraceful chanting towards the Leeds fans are happy, because it's this incident, and the disgraceful behaviour of the Leeds fans following this that will be behind this decision, and if I have to miss a game because of a minority of idiots, I will not be happy. 132763[/snapback]
Fox in a Box Posted 7 July 2005 Author Posted 7 July 2005 The main issue with the meeting was how the club communicates to supporters, and the best way to do this. It was decided that there would be a panel made up of fans who would be made publically known so that fans who wanted to make any points on issues that arose could talk to these guys who would then represent them to the Club. This would be smaller than the Fans Forum, which was felt to be 'getting a bit stale'. Open meetings was an option, but to be honest, given the turnout at these things, even the groundshare where a lot of people seemed quite emotive, certainly on the forums, it does seem to me that when push comes to shove, nobody wants to actually get up there and voice their views! The possibility of voting, like with the Fosse v City, could be used with issues which can be solved with closed questions. For example, it looks like there will be a vote now on the Club's smoking policy for the season after this one.L1 (and N) was discussed. The police will not allow 'police-free' games; we had about 6 last season. Costs for the lowest category game are in the region of £6,000-£8,000. These are significantly higher for category A games. There is talk of reducing the allocation for Cardiff and Leeds, possibly banning them from the stadium. I just hope that the latter is not needed, as I'm sure these clubs will reciprocate. If that happens, then all those who joined in the disgraceful chanting towards the Leeds fans are happy, because it's this incident, and the disgraceful behaviour of the Leeds fans following this that will be behind this decision, and if I have to miss a game because of a minority of idiots, I will not be happy. 132763[/snapback] 133647[/snapback] Chill LISA......... remember this "nobody wants to actually get up there and voice their views!" apart from a few eh!
Katy Posted 7 July 2005 Posted 7 July 2005 Blown out of all proportion as usual, I dont know about anyone else but the comment that annoyed me was FIAB's "no one interested in the club then?" comment. If you have something to say, say it instead of making out you are the better fan because you were there.
Fox in a Box Posted 7 July 2005 Author Posted 7 July 2005 Blown out of all proportion as usual, I dont know about anyone else but the comment that annoyed me was FIAB's "no one interested in the club then?" comment. If you have something to say, say it instead of making out you are the better fan because you were there. 133671[/snapback] we are...
Teeno Posted 7 July 2005 Posted 7 July 2005 Myself and Lisa got off our backside to tell you what we heard and discussed next time make time to go yourself... You'd hate to see me angry I go green .....hulk sulk! And thanks foxestrust for taking notes, for the people who couldnt be bothered to turn up, yet have lots to say! 133471[/snapback] What a pathetic post, don't assume that everyone who didn't turn up didn't because they couldn't be arsed. Infact I go to almost all of these type of things and would of been there on tuesday if it weren't for the fact that it was my sisters 18th birthday. I'm sorry if this makes me a poor excuse of a supporter, lazy, not bothered and unloyal. I applaud though what a superb supporter you are, well done I bet your mothers proud of you Shame on everyone else for not going, you should know by now that no matter what you are doing or what you have planned you should drop it all for the club. You should no by now that anything to do with the club should come before family, work and any other inconviniences
Foxes_Trust Posted 7 July 2005 Posted 7 July 2005 Myself and Lisa got off our backside to tell you what we heard and discussed next time make time to go yourself... You'd hate to see me angry I go green .....hulk sulk! And thanks foxestrust for taking notes, for the people who couldnt be bothered to turn up, yet have lots to say! 133471[/snapback] What a pathetic post, don't assume that everyone who didn't turn up didn't because they couldn't be arsed. Infact I go to almost all of these type of things and would of been there on tuesday if it weren't for the fact that it was my sisters 18th birthday. I'm sorry if this makes me a poor excuse of a supporter, lazy, not bothered and unloyal. I applaud though what a superb supporter you are, well done I bet your mothers proud of you Shame on everyone else for not going, you should know by now that no matter what you are doing or what you have planned you should drop it all for the club. You should no by now that anything to do with the club should come before family, work and any other inconviniences 134039[/snapback] We understand FIAB's frustration though, we have faced the same attitude from many fans as well since forming. Not in your case though Teeno or BF's who normally attends, but it is true that many message board posters spend all year moaning about the club and then can not be bothered to tear themselves away from their pint or TV for a couple of hours. Yes a number live many miles away or overseas, but others just won't make the effort. Lisa & FIAB made some good points during the open evening & we hope they become part of the much reduced (numbers wise) Fans Forum/Consultation Group for next season
Ric Flair Posted 8 July 2005 Posted 8 July 2005 Myself and Lisa got off our backside to tell you what we heard and discussed next time make time to go yourself... You'd hate to see me angry I go green .....hulk sulk! And thanks foxestrust for taking notes, for the people who couldnt be bothered to turn up, yet have lots to say! 133471[/snapback] What a pathetic post, don't assume that everyone who didn't turn up didn't because they couldn't be arsed. Infact I go to almost all of these type of things and would of been there on tuesday if it weren't for the fact that it was my sisters 18th birthday. I'm sorry if this makes me a poor excuse of a supporter, lazy, not bothered and unloyal. I applaud though what a superb supporter you are, well done I bet your mothers proud of you Shame on everyone else for not going, you should know by now that no matter what you are doing or what you have planned you should drop it all for the club. You should no by now that anything to do with the club should come before family, work and any other inconviniences 134039[/snapback] We understand FIAB's frustration though, we have faced the same attitude from many fans as well since forming. Not in your case though Teeno or BF's who normally attends, but it is true that many message board posters spend all year moaning about the club and then can not be bothered to tear themselves away from their pint or TV for a couple of hours. Yes a number live many miles away or overseas, but others just won't make the effort. Lisa & FIAB made some good points during the open evening & we hope they become part of the much reduced (numbers wise) Fans Forum/Consultation Group for next season 134153[/snapback] Call me naive but what exactly have these Open Meetings ever achieved? Although I think they are a good idea, one of the reasons why alot of fans stay away is because they know how stubborn the big wigs are at this club. We've been fobbed off time and time again without consultation with the fans and it appears to me that the club only do things that they want, so why bother banging your head against a brick wall?
Fox in a Box Posted 8 July 2005 Author Posted 8 July 2005 Myself and Lisa got off our backside to tell you what we heard and discussed next time make time to go yourself... You'd hate to see me angry I go green .....hulk sulk! And thanks foxestrust for taking notes, for the people who couldnt be bothered to turn up, yet have lots to say! 133471[/snapback] What a pathetic post, don't assume that everyone who didn't turn up didn't because they couldn't be arsed. Infact I go to almost all of these type of things and would of been there on tuesday if it weren't for the fact that it was my sisters 18th birthday. I'm sorry if this makes me a poor excuse of a supporter, lazy, not bothered and unloyal. I applaud though what a superb supporter you are, well done I bet your mothers proud of you Shame on everyone else for not going, you should know by now that no matter what you are doing or what you have planned you should drop it all for the club. You should no by now that anything to do with the club should come before family, work and any other inconviniences 134039[/snapback] We understand FIAB's frustration though, we have faced the same attitude from many fans as well since forming. Not in your case though Teeno or BF's who normally attends, but it is true that many message board posters spend all year moaning about the club and then can not be bothered to tear themselves away from their pint or TV for a couple of hours. Yes a number live many miles away or overseas, but others just won't make the effort. Lisa & FIAB made some good points during the open evening & we hope they become part of the much reduced (numbers wise) Fans Forum/Consultation Group for next season 134153[/snapback] Hi all, FIAB here!, I'm sorry if I offended anyone. .. for this IM truly sorry. i travelled a fair distance to be there, and made and to see same old same old faces makes you think. #I QUOTE "but it is true that many message board posters spend all year moaning about the club and then can not be bothered to tear themselves away from their pint or TV for a couple of hours" ....well if its down to the club or a the ones that can get to the meetings to take the club forward then the ones that dont turn up dont bother moaning. Peter Jones is there to listen by phone and email.....no excuses really. FOXES TRUST email me and we can sort out the Fans Forum/Consultation Group thingy.
Guest Posted 8 July 2005 Posted 8 July 2005 Lisa & FIAB made some good points during the open evening & we hope they become part of the much reduced (numbers wise) Fans Forum/Consultation Group for next season 134153[/snapback] Me??
Guest Posted 8 July 2005 Posted 8 July 2005 Call me naive but what exactly have these Open Meetings ever achieved? Although I think they are a good idea, one of the reasons why alot of fans stay away is because they know how stubborn the big wigs are at this club. We've been fobbed off time and time again without consultation with the fans and it appears to me that the club only do things that they want, so why bother banging your head against a brick wall? 134278[/snapback] The poster known as Only me made a pretty damn good suggestion, when we were asked how the club could 'inspire' fans to purchase season tickets. In fact, he's even gone as far as to make a proposal up, which has been e-mailed to Andrew Neville following the meeting, and has been passed onto the appropriate department. If this goes ahead, then the club are listening, and yes, we can have a say in the way this club markets the fans. I won't steal OM's thunder and outline the suggestion, it's up to him to tell you all!!
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