Mark_w Posted 20 April 2012 Posted 20 April 2012 .......are 5 players and DD marshall and Wes are 3 more so that = 8, Howard is an also ran so that is 7. No one thinks he would have changed either Nugent or Kasper for any of the dross he had before and so he has actually had the opportunity to play the players he wants to and has either brought in (he doesn't always play them - confidence in your own signing ability???) or remain from last time. Arguing that the team is not his is a nonsense, he has had the option to play well over half the team with his favourites in, and the aforementioned duo give him a good 80% - if he can't get them playing because he has Konchesky instead of Bruno then really, can he be a team builder? The team not being his, is not just about the eleven people who start, it's the entire squad and their personalitites, if there are egos or trouble makers behind the scenes then that's going to have a very negative effect all round. And frankly comparing his first spell with the club to the second I think it's very likely. Giving Nigel the summer is, in my opinion, just as much about letting him sell who he wants as well as bringing players in.
Guest Foxin_mad Posted 20 April 2012 Posted 20 April 2012 Drinkwater, Marshall and Morgan havent been here long enough to judge imo. The greatest managers of all time have said that it takes at least 6 months for a player to settle in. On the flip side Sven also persisted playing Wellens, King and Gallagher despite bringing in another 5 midifelders who clearly were not up to the job, we also had no width because he refused to bring in a proper winger to replace Dyer. I still believe Pearson would not have signed many of these players, Sven traded average for average that cost 3 times more. Seriously Mills is no better than Hobbs yet Hobbs a young centre back was frozen out for no real reason. Seriously Sven has taken this team backwards by at least a year because it is no longer a team. I group of supposedly talented individuals with big egos will never cut it, look at the Reading and Saints team, not too many egos there.
DANGEROUS TIGER Posted 20 April 2012 Posted 20 April 2012 Merc Nigel Pearson says he thrives under the pressure of transforming Leicester City into genuine promotion challengers next season. The weight of expectation has been huge on City this season and they have not been able to live up to it. That has increased the pressure on Pearson – who rejoined the club from Hull in November – to match that expectation during the next campaign. However, Pearson said he does not worry about the consequences for him if he fails. "That is the challenge and that is why I came back," he said. "There is a weight of expectation and I am very happy to be at the helm and embrace that pressure. "I am not someone who worries about the implications of pressure. I thrive on that. "I would rather we were in a stronger position and be where we expect us to be – in a better position in the league and pushing for promotion. "We are in the situation we are in and it is my job to improve the fortunes of the club. I am very happy to have that as my responsibility. "The time-scales involved in improving teams is tight, and time is something that you never have enough of, but I don't worry about those things. "I am confident in myself and with the people who work alongside me and with me. "Unfortunately it hasn't happened for us this season, but we will get there." :yawn:
Mark_w Posted 20 April 2012 Posted 20 April 2012 :yawn: I'd be interested to know when you decided, over the four or so years, that Nigel isn't a good enough manager DT?
seenitall Posted 20 April 2012 Posted 20 April 2012 Drinkwater, Marshall and Morgan havent been here long enough to judge imo. The greatest managers of all time have said that it takes at least 6 months for a player to settle in. On the flip side Sven also persisted playing Wellens, King and Gallagher despite bringing in another 5 midifelders who clearly were not up to the job, we also had no width because he refused to bring in a proper winger to replace Dyer. I still believe Pearson would not have signed many of these players, Sven traded average for average that cost 3 times more. Seriously Mills is no better than Hobbs yet Hobbs a young centre back was frozen out for no real reason. Seriously Sven has taken this team backwards by at least a year because it is no longer a team. I group of supposedly talented individuals with big egos will never cut it, look at the Reading and Saints team, not too many egos there. I thought it was 13 games, surely
Raw Dykes Posted 20 April 2012 Posted 20 April 2012 .......are 5 players and DD marshall and Wes are 3 more so that = 8, Howard is an also ran so that is 7. No one thinks he would have changed either Nugent or Kasper for any of the dross he had before and so he has actually had the opportunity to play the players he wants to and has either brought in (he doesn't always play them - confidence in your own signing ability???) I'm pretty sure Morgan's played every match when available, so you must be talking about Marshall and Drinwater - two young players for the future who I'm sure weren't expecting to feature so often so soon. or remain from last time. Arguing that the team is not his is a nonsense, No. Saying that is a nonsense. Only the three signed in January, and maybe Danns can count as Pearson's own players. I say maybe Danns, because NP was supposed to be after him when he was at Hull, but then he might not have wanted him if he was here. The players left over from before NP left for Hull can't count as Pearson's players. They were signed when we had totally different aims and with a far smaller budget, and they're years older than they were when they were brought in to challenge for promotion from League 1, or consolidate in the Championship. Imagine you're a football manager who's offered two jobs at the same time. One club has just come up from League 1, is looking for a mid-table finish at best, and offers you a relatively small transfer budget. The other club is looking for automatic promotion to the PL, and offers you a relatively giant transfer budget. Do you really expect me to believe that you'd have exactly the same shortlist of players for both jobs? You can only argue that the few players left over from before NP left are his players if you can actually, honestly say that you'd go for the same players, no matter which of those two jobs you chose. Even then, how you can argue this is his team is beyond me. If Pearson had never left, and had been given even half the cash Sven was given to buy players, the squad would look very different to what it looks like today. he has had the option to play well over half the team with his favourites in, What favourites? You'll spin every little thing that NP does to suit your own agenda of hate. You've just suggested that NP doesn't have confidence in his own ability to find good players, and now, in the very next sentence, you're accusing him of having "favourites". You can't have it both ways! Can't you see that you're only looking for negatives? You could think that when he favours another manager's signing over his own, that he recognises the quality or form of a player he didn't sign, but no, according to you, that has to mean that he thinks the player he signed must be shit because NP himself signed him. You could think that when he picks one of his own players over one he didn't sign, he knows that player was a good signing and has faith in him to perform well, but no, in your eyes, it can only mean he's got his favourites who he'll pick whether it's best for the team or not. and the aforementioned duo give him a good 80% - if he can't get them playing because he has Konchesky instead of Bruno then really, can he be a team builder? Do you know what team building is? Do you really think the current group of players is the finished article? Sven couldn't get them playing any better, he had a year and almost certainly the club's biggest ever transfer budget to do it, and I know you would never question his ability to build a team.
Guest Foxin_mad Posted 20 April 2012 Posted 20 April 2012 I thought it was 13 games, surely I would never base the players on 13 games, they have had a full season and still look no better. I proabably would have given Sven these season but I think we could have been close to releagtion this season if we had let him carry on. You have to question whether Svens plan for player aquisition and team building was correct, buying as many as we did in the summer probably set him up to fail this season, and the quality of the signings was average, nothing better than anyone else in this league, we just paid a lot more. Sven was quoted in the Mercury as saying 'quality players do not need time to gel', which is absolute drivel and one of the things that highlighted the fact he was nothing more than a senile old man collecting his last pay cheque. http://www.thisisleicestershire.co.uk/Wrong-mix-Leicester-City-recipe-disaster/story-13165288-detail/story.html That story sums it up perfectly.
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