Captain... Posted 28 May 2012 Share Posted 28 May 2012 The difference is most of the opinions on here are after the event. We can all see that starting Gallagher against Millwall was a mistake after we lost, some called it before the match, but what we are never privy to is the reasoning and thinking behind it. Take Downing, nobody here knows the exact thinking behind Hodgson picking Downing over Johnson, I rate Johnson as the better player, but it depends on how RH wants to play and what strengths and weaknesses he sees each player as bringing. Now if Downing has a shit tournament, everyone will be crowing about how shit he is and what a stupid decision it was to take him, but what we can never know is if Johnson would have done any better. In short, I see your point, but we often have the benefit of hindsight after the match or even during, you don't know when you pick somebody like Gallagher if they are going to have a double screamer day, or an insipid day, and screaming at them during the match is not going to help, but after the match we have our right to conclude that it was a mistake and the manager, despite years of professional experience, made a mistake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Col city fan Posted 28 May 2012 Share Posted 28 May 2012 The difference is most of the opinions on here are after the event. We can all see that starting Gallagher against Millwall was a mistake after we lost, some called it before the match, but what we are never privy to is the reasoning and thinking behind it. Take Downing, nobody here knows the exact thinking behind Hodgson picking Downing over Johnson, I rate Johnson as the better player, but it depends on how RH wants to play and what strengths and weaknesses he sees each player as bringing. Now if Downing has a shit tournament, everyone will be crowing about how shit he is and what a stupid decision it was to take him, but what we can never know is if Johnson would have done any better. In short, I see your point, but we often have the benefit of hindsight after the match or even during, you don't know when you pick somebody like Gallagher if they are going to have a double screamer day, or an insipid day, and screaming at them during the match is not going to help, but after the match we have our right to conclude that it was a mistake and the manager, despite years of professional experience, made a mistake. Don't think I agree with this.. Every match has a 'team thread' in terms of who you'd pick and why? Take that Millwall game... I'd have never picked such a wafer thin midfield for a game that was gonna be as tough as that one... As it happens I didn't post my team selection for that particular match, but was surprised when I heard that King and Gally were in and Dyer was out. Even if Gally would have had a stormer I'd have never said I wanted him to play pre match... Reason being because I thought that Millwall away required midfield steel, not physical frailty. Yes it's easy to be 'right after the event' so to speak, but years of experience of being a Leicester fan, playing football, watching football and coaching football suggests that some of us may have a bit of a clue about what we are advocating for the team. AND this is a football forum... I thought that being 'mini managers', having a laugh, getting wound up about things, gaining information (esp from Davie G who is my main source of info... Cheers Pal) is what it's all about on here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stourbridgefox Posted 28 May 2012 Author Share Posted 28 May 2012 Wait...are you a trained and qualified Psychologist...i mean, just what the hell do you think gives you the right to express your opinion? Unless i see your certificate of "doctoring skills".. i shall be forced to just dismiss your rant. Well...Apart from a degree in history I have a post-graduate certificate in psychodynamic counselling. So not a bad guess!! But I don't think this gives me any more right to an opinion than anyone else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Col city fan Posted 28 May 2012 Share Posted 28 May 2012 Well...Apart from a degree in history I have a post-graduate certificate in psychodynamic counselling. So not a bad guess!! But I don't think this gives me any more right to an opinion than anyone else. Oooo get you! Go on then, what would Freud, Jung or Rogers say about our inability to attain top six spot last season? Hit us with your acumen... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stourbridgefox Posted 28 May 2012 Author Share Posted 28 May 2012 Rogers would say we did great and he loves us Jung would say we were the archetypal Icarus and slumped to mid-table by trying to fly too close to the sun Freud would say we regressed to an earlier, sexually repressed state because we had unresolved issues with Sven shagging Ulrika. Or something Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blueforever Posted 28 May 2012 Share Posted 28 May 2012 Football ain't rocket science and most people who have followed the game for a few years do have valid points to make even if I happen to completly disagree with them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Col city fan Posted 28 May 2012 Share Posted 28 May 2012 Rogers would say we did great and he loves us Jung would say we were the archetypal Icarus and slumped to mid-table by trying to fly too close to the sun Freud would say we regressed to an earlier, sexually repressed state because we had unresolved issues with Sven shagging Ulrika. Or something Good response... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corky Posted 28 May 2012 Share Posted 28 May 2012 Rogers would say we did great and he loves us Doubt it judging by his reception at our place since he left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weller in Tights Posted 28 May 2012 Share Posted 28 May 2012 "Well...Apart from a degree in history I have a post-graduate certificate in psychodynamic counselling." well there you have it Stourbridge fox is clearly qualified to tell us that we have no right to be questioning the 'professionals' about what goes on in football. Stourbridgefox, what makes our beautiful game so enthralling, on so many different levels, is the fact there ARE so many 'experts', readily willing to give their opinion. The fact that some that should 'know' clearly don't and some that have maybe less knowledge, can at times actually be inciteful, that is all part of the fun. Take your psychodynamic analysis of the pundits and shove it where the sun don't shine. If someone comes out with some crap like " Steve Howard is quite an athelete" Have a laugh!!!! don't have a mardy fit. If someone posts on here a topic that is posted before don't criticise and be all high and mighty and have a go at them (See the thread about moving the Kop, god so many of you are Forum snobs), join in or have a laugh. Life is too short folks, Come on Leicester, just 3 years away from a champions league final!!!!!! (Oh no!!! am I now being delusional Stourbridge fox? please help!! I have always found people with Psychology training to have such great insight... NOT) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stourbridgefox Posted 28 May 2012 Author Share Posted 28 May 2012 "Well...Apart from a degree in history I have a post-graduate certificate in psychodynamic counselling." well there you have it Stourbridge fox is clearly qualified to tell us that we have no right to be questioning the 'professionals' about what goes on in football. Stourbridgefox, what makes our beautiful game so enthralling, on so many different levels, is the fact there ARE so many 'experts', readily willing to give their opinion. The fact that some that should 'know' clearly don't and some that have maybe less knowledge, can at times actually be inciteful, that is all part of the fun. Take your psychodynamic analysis of the pundits and shove it where the sun don't shine. If someone comes out with some crap like " Steve Howard is quite an athelete" Have a laugh!!!! don't have a mardy fit. If someone posts on here a topic that is posted before don't criticise and be all high and mighty and have a go at them (See the thread about moving the Kop, god so many of you are Forum snobs), join in or have a laugh. Life is too short folks, Come on Leicester, just 3 years away from a champions league final!!!!!! (Oh no!!! am I now being delusional Stourbridge fox? please help!! I have always found people with Psychology training to have such great insight... NOT) The title of the thread was 'Rant'...not analysis. It was a rant about football fans by a football fan. Someone asked me whether I was a trained psychologist. Well I'm not but it wasn't a bad guess. Worth noting I thought. When I post I post as a football fan, nothing more, nothing less. And I will get mardy about what I like!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weller in Tights Posted 29 May 2012 Share Posted 29 May 2012 Hilarious. Nothing worse than a touchy amateur psychologist!!!!! Come on Leicester, 3 Years from a champions league Final!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daggers Posted 29 May 2012 Share Posted 29 May 2012 Hilarious.Nothing worse than a touchy amateur psychologist!!!!! Come on Leicester, 3 Years from a champions league Final!! No. There's nothing worse than over-using punctuation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stourbridgefox Posted 29 May 2012 Author Share Posted 29 May 2012 If you read my posts carefully there is always a clue that I'm not taking myself too seriously. It is always to some extent tongue in cheek. I wonder whether you are jealous of my qualifications? If so, don't feel bad... We can't all be dead clever! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARM1968 Posted 30 May 2012 Share Posted 30 May 2012 Equating football management to any of those things is a little bonkers. Someone with 10-20 years of watching football can usually recognise a good player from bad. They can see errors in tactics. They pay good money each week. I personally do not think football management is something to be deified. They make mistakes that can be seen. We are allowed to see them and comment. Simples. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
absolutelegend Posted 31 May 2012 Share Posted 31 May 2012 I know more about football that Peter Taylor - FACT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stourbridgefox Posted 31 May 2012 Author Share Posted 31 May 2012 Equating football management to any of those things is a little bonkers. Someone with 10-20 years of watching football can usually recognise a good player from bad. They can see errors in tactics. They pay good money each week. I personally do not think football management is something to be deified. They make mistakes that can be seen. We are allowed to see them and comment. Simples. This is simply not true I've been watching City for over 20 years and I haven't got a clue what I'm talking about. Fact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARM1968 Posted 31 May 2012 Share Posted 31 May 2012 There are exceptions to every rule ; ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesmilner Posted 31 May 2012 Share Posted 31 May 2012 i dont know how to make a pork pie , not ****ing clue ! but i know what a good one tastes like and i know what shit ones taste like ! what a pathetic post ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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