davieG Posted 20 August 2012 Posted 20 August 2012 I've worked from home in the past and had access to the company's network using a 'random' number entry system and I also use the 'pin entry' system for online banking. I've noticed that it doesn't seem to matter which bank's number generator I use for the two separate bank accounts I have. Anyone care to explain in simple laymen's language how these work - thanks.
Stig the Lawnmower Posted 20 August 2012 Posted 20 August 2012 would also like to know this, haven't tried random numbers but will have a go
sphericalfox Posted 20 August 2012 Posted 20 August 2012 Just DM me your bank details and I'll explain everything
Steven Posted 20 August 2012 Posted 20 August 2012 I've worked from home in the past and had access to the company's network using a 'random' number entry system and I also use the 'pin entry' system for online banking. I've noticed that it doesn't seem to matter which bank's number generator I use for the two separate bank accounts I have. Anyone care to explain in simple laymen's language how these work - thanks. It would seem that your security is at customer level and not account level.
Webbo Posted 20 August 2012 Posted 20 August 2012 I guess that if it was widely known how these numbers were generated then crooks could work out how to access your account.
21st Century Fox Posted 20 August 2012 Posted 20 August 2012 Possibly something to do with a time based algorithm.... maybe.
FoxesAreBlue Posted 20 August 2012 Posted 20 August 2012 Gooooooooood afternoon sah, there is a pidgeon in your bank account.....
davieG Posted 20 August 2012 Author Posted 20 August 2012 It would seem that your security is at customer level and not account level. Can you clarify?
Steven Posted 21 August 2012 Posted 21 August 2012 Can you clarify? You say "I've noticed that it doesn't seem to matter which bank's number generator I use for the two separate bank accounts I have.", tell me is this for the same Bank?
absolutelegend Posted 21 August 2012 Posted 21 August 2012 Anyone care to explain in simple laymen's language how these work - thanks. I've worked on a couple of projects at banks implementing this. Most are based on 2 factor authentication (the 2 factors being 1) something you have - the device, and 2) something you know - the pin). The combination of these is used to generate the access code(s) via challenge and response. Devices are often supplied by the same 3rd party - e.g. pinsentry - and can be interchangable between banks. The pin cannot. Others methods are based on time based algorithms - e.g. the one you use to access your works network, although these are less common nowadays in banks.
davieG Posted 21 August 2012 Author Posted 21 August 2012 You say "I've noticed that it doesn't seem to matter which bank's number generator I use for the two separate bank accounts I have.", tell me is this for the same Bank? No
davieG Posted 21 August 2012 Author Posted 21 August 2012 Then ignore what I have said. sorry misread your question yes they are different banks. I've worked on a couple of projects at banks implementing this. Most are based on 2 factor authentication (the 2 factors being 1) something you have - the device, and 2) something you know - the pin). The combination of these is used to generate the access code(s) via challenge and response. Devices are often supplied by the same 3rd party - e.g. pinsentry - and can be interchangable between banks. The pin cannot. Others methods are based on time based algorithms - e.g. the one you use to access your works network, although these are less common nowadays in banks. Pinsentry is one of them.
sphericalfox Posted 21 August 2012 Posted 21 August 2012 sorry misread your question yes they are different banks. Pinsentry is one of them. Do you get that when you're with a foreign bank?
davieG Posted 21 August 2012 Author Posted 21 August 2012 Do you get that when you're with a foreign bank? definition of foreign? No they're both British, Nationwide & Barclays
sphericalfox Posted 21 August 2012 Posted 21 August 2012 definition of foreign? No they're both British, Nationwide & Barclays I figured after I had posted that this joke was so vague that no one would get it. It was a play on the word dysentery.
davieG Posted 21 August 2012 Author Posted 21 August 2012 I figured after I had posted that this joke was so vague that no one would get it. It was a play on the word dysentery. Belated Ha! There's enough shit coming out of UK banks to make ones suspect dysentery.
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