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Is Tupac Still Alive?

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What do you think?

The fact that everybody who is murdered has to have an autopsy, which he didn't and was creamted the day after he died makes me believe he isn't dead. Especially considering he always talked about being buried, NOT cremated!

Read this and make your mind up.

The

uncontested facts:

 

After leaving the Tyson fight on Saturday September 7, 1996 Tupac was alledgedly shot 5 times.  He lived through the shooting and was taken to a nearby hospital.

He was pronounced dead on Friday September 13, 1996.

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The suspicious facts:

Friday the 13th is a very suspicious day. 

There were never any pictures released of Tupac in the hospital. 

In the song "Life Goes On", Tupac raps about his own funeral. 

The driver of the car in which Tupac was riding, Suge Knight (the executive producer of Death Row Records), didn't show up for questioning about the shooting. 

The video "I ain't Mad at Cha" was released only a few days after his death. "I ain't Mad at Cha" is track 13 on the album All Eyes On Me. The video shows Tupac as an angel in heaven.  In the video, Tupac was shot after leaving a theater with a friend, which is very similar to how he was shot in real life. Interestingly, Tupac dies in his last video released under the name "Tupac".  His new video "Toss It Up" from the new album was released under the name "Makaveli".

The second video to be released by the name Makaveli is "To Live and Die in L.A." But how could they shoot the second video when he is "dead". Do you really think the video was shot 4 months ago, back in August of '96? Think about it.

In the video "Hail Mary" released under the name Makaveli, there is a gravestone that says Makaveli.  But the gravestone is cracked and there is a hole right in front of it, inferring that Makaveli rose from the dead. 

A shooting involving Snoop Doggy Dogg occured close to the release of his album Doggystyle.  The shooting made Snoop appear more "real" and showed his fans that he really was a gangsta.  The shooting gave him respect because everyone that bought his album believed what he was talking about.  Within one week of its release, Doggystyle went platnium.  Snoop is signed to the same label as Tupac which is Death Row Records. In December '96, Tupac's new album went platinum. 

In interviews prior to the shooting, Tupac talked about how he wanted to stop rapping and being a gangsta and get out of the limelight.  What is the only way Tupac could completly escape the media spotlight ???  (Answer: if the public thought he was dead.) 

There are no suspects for the shooting.

Press wasn't going to be allowed at the funeral, but then the funeral was cancelled for unknown reasons. 

Tupac always wore a bulletproof vest, no matter where he went.  Why didn't he wear it to a very public event like a Tyson fight? (Because he wanted to make it seem like he could be shot.) 

In most of his songs he talks about being buried, so why was he allegedly cremated the day after he "died"?  And since when do they cremate someone the day after death without an autopsy?  Furthermore, it is illegal to bury someone who has been murdered without an autopsy. 

The new Tupac album released on Nov. 5, and was originally supposed to be an EP of 6 songs, but was then extended to a full length album of 12 songs. 

Tupac's alias is Makaveli. Though the spelling is different, Machiavelli was a 16th century italian philosopher who advocated the staging of one's death in order to evade one's enemies and gain power. 

In Machiavelli's book Discourses Upon the First Ten Books of Titus Livy, in Book 2 Chapter XIII he says "a prince who wishes to achieve great things must learn to deceive".  This is Machiavelli's main idea and is the connection between Tupac and the writings of Machiavelli. 

The title of the new album by Makaveli (Tupac) is The 7 Day Theory.  He was shot on September 7th; and survived on the 7th, 8th, 9th, 10th, 11th, 12th, and"died" the 13th. Hence the title The 7 Day Theory. 

Tupac's album All Eyes on Me was released on Feb.13, 1996.  Tupac "died" on Sept.13, 1996.  It is quite a coincidence that the two dates are exactly 7 months apart.

Tupac officially died at 4:03 PM. 4+3 = 7 Also he "died" at an age of 25 years. 2+5 = 7 It seems as if seven is Tupac's number. 

There is nothing in the new album that says TUPAC RIP 1971-1996.  Wouldn't it make sense to include something like that in the first album after his "death"? The only thing mentioned is "EXIT TUPAC ENTER MAKAVELI".

The executive producer of The 7 Day Theory , as listed in the CD booklet of the album, is Simon (who is a previously unknown producer in the rap music industry).  In the bible, Simon was an apostle of Jesus.  Simon was one of the first witnesses of the Resurrection listed by Saint Paul (I Cor. 15: 5).  Could Simon be a reference to Suge Knight(the executive producer of Death Row records)? Simon was renamed "Peter, the rock" (John 1:42). 

In Richie Rich's album Seasoned Veteran, which was released on the same day as The 7 Day Theory, on the song "N*ggas Done Changed" which is a duet with Tupac, Tupac says the following lyrics: "I've been shot and murdered, can't tell you how it happened word for word / but best believe that n*ggas' gonna get what they deserve."  This phrase implies that Tupac knows he will be dead when Richie Rich's album is released. 

In Makaveli's (Tupac's) song "White Man's World" on album The 7 Day Theory, he says "We ain't never gonna walk off this planet unless ya'll choose to." Did he choose to walk off the planet by faking his death? 

In Tupac's song "Ambitionz az a Ridah" on the album All Eyes On Me, he says "Blast me but they didn't finish, didn't diminish my powers so now I'm back to be a mutha****in' menace, they cowards thats why they tried to set me up, had b*tch *ss n*ggas on my team so indeed they wet me up, BUT I'M BACK REINCARNATED."  This implies that Tupac is reincarnated as Makaveli. 

In Tupac's song "Life of an Outlaw" on the album The 7 Day Theory, he says "All for the street fame on how to be managed, to plan sh*t, 6 months in advance to what we plotted, approved to go on swole and now I got it"-Life Of An Outlaw. This implies that Tupac planned his "death" in advance and now he is enjoying the success of his plan.

In Tupac's song "Made Niggaz" from the Supercop Soundtrack, he says "**** 'em all who don't understand my plot to get richer... Outlaw to the grave, a mutha****in' made nigga I got a plan to get richer. Take my picture." Once again he mentions his "plan" to get rich.

In E-40's album Hall Of Game in the song "Million Dollar Spot" which is a duet with Tupac, Tupac says, "Fans can't understand my ghetto slang, so i evade and plot and plan a life of better things...."  Once again Tupac mentions his "plan".

In Tupac's song "Ain't Hard 2 Find" on the album All Eyes On Me, he says "I heard rumors I died, murdered in cold blood, tramatized pictures of me in my final states, you know momma cryed, but that was fiction, some coward got the story twisted."  It seems as if Tupac foretold the future.

Scarface's song "Smile", which is a duet with Tupac, was supposedly recorded in September of '96, before Tupac was "shot". But the video for the song was released in May of '97 and the video depicts Tupac rapping while he appears to be crucified. At the end of the video, Tupac falls off the cross and stands up...which is another image of resurection. Towards the end of the video, it becomes slightly apparent that Tupac is actually portrayed by a look-alike. I still wonder, if he is really dead, then why do they keep making everyone so suspicious???

In the video for "I Wonder if Heaven Got a Ghetto" the town it takes place in is called Rukahs. "Rukahs" spelled backwards is "Shakur".  The room he goes into with the girl is room number 7. The clock in the background at the end is at 4:03...the same time he officially died. More funny stuff from the video producers. My question still remains, why?

In Tupac's song "No More Pain" on the album All Eyes On Me, he says "A heart of a soldier with the brains to teach a whole nation." Could this be a reference to Machievelli or Jesus? 

On the cover of The 7 Day Theory, there is a picture of Tupac being crucified.  This fits with the idea that Tupac "died" so he could be reincarnated as Makaveli. In the picture, there are five bullet holes. Interestingly, Tupac was "shot" 5 times. 

The only witness to the shooting, Yafeu Fula, was found shot to death on Nov. 10th in a hallway of an apartment building in East Orange, NJ.  Hmm...now no one will get any info out of him. (for more info on his death, click here.)

After the shooting of Notorious B.I.G. on March 9th, 1997 Lieutenant Wayne Petersen of the the homicide division of the Las Vegas Police Department who has been investigating Shakur's alleged killing said, "Before yesterday, I had never even heard of the Notorious B.I.G.  There is no link between the two murders. We think the only connection is in the minds of the media. The media wants to connect the two."  If you asked anyone who knows anything about the Tupac case, they would say something about the rivalry between Biggie and Tupac. How will the Las Vegas police ever solve the case if they don't know the basics? The answer is that they won't. C'mon guys, that is pretty pathetic.

According to my friend Roger as well as numerous other sources, in the first three seconds of The 7 Day Theory, the words "Suge shot me" are spoken very softly. Check it out for yourself, but that certainly is suspicious and it must mean something. Click here for the sample as it appears on the CD.

According to Neal, on the song "Thug Luv" which is a duet with Tupac on Bone Thugs-N-Harmony's double CD Art Of War after Tupac says "whuz poppin' n*gga", Bizzy Bone can be heard saying "He's Alive He's Alive He's Alive" in the background.  Click here for the sample.

During an interview, an ABC correspondent asked Suge Knight, "If you knew who killed Tupac, would you tell the police?". Suge answered, "Absolutely not."

On November 25, 1997 a new 2 Pac album will be released on Jive Records called R U Still Down. It is being released under the name "2 Pac" not "Makaveli". This implies many things...does this mean that "2 pac" is back?

I have heard there is a "new" artist called "Blac Haze". The song that I have heard by them is called "Let Me Holla At Cha". A clip can be downloaded here from the site Exit-2 pac-Enter-Makaveli. The rapper sounds like Tupac, at least to me. Check it out for yourself.

In the video "Heaven Gotta Ghetto", the license plate of the car that he gets in with the older man reads "61671". Another obvious occurance of the number seven and the sum of seven (6+1).

This bit of info comes from Michael Penn: In the CD booklet of the "R U Still Down" album the it is written "Keep the faith in me I wont let u down...love 2pac". Can he be advising us not to dwell on his "death" because he is coming back?

This comes from Mike Frankel: If you rearrange the letters in the album title "Makaveli The Don Killuminati The 7Day Theory" You can make the sentence "Ok on tha 7th u think I'm dead yet I'm really alive". Mike explains "7th meaning the 7th day after he was shot, he supposedly died but is really alive." That's quite amazing, try it for yourself.

Doesn't all this sound a bit too ridiculous, although there is no specific fact that makes my theory valid, there is nothing the obviously disproves it, but it all adds up to something, there must be something funny going on.  Don't you think? 

Babylon

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PLEASE DO NOT CLICK IF  UNDER 18. THIS IS UNSUITABLE FOR PEOPLE OF A WEEK STOMACH.

Think this clears it up  ;)

http://www.celebritymorgue.com/tupac-shakur/

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Won't let me view that, can't you put the picture on?

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Read the warning!!!! I don't think it is suitable.

Put it this way, i'd be suprised if Tupac is breathing.

Bert

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What do you think?

The fact that everybody who is murdered has to have an autopsy, which he didn't and was creamted the day after he died makes me believe he isn't dead. Especially considering he always talked about being buried, NOT cremated!

Read this and make your mind up.

The

uncontested facts:

 

After leaving the Tyson fight on Saturday September 7, 1996 Tupac was alledgedly shot 5 times.  He lived through the shooting and was taken to a nearby hospital.

He was pronounced dead on Friday September 13, 1996.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

The suspicious facts:

Friday the 13th is a very suspicious day. 

There were never any pictures released of Tupac in the hospital. 

In the song "Life Goes On", Tupac raps about his own funeral. 

The driver of the car in which Tupac was riding, Suge Knight (the executive producer of Death Row Records), didn't show up for questioning about the shooting. 

The video "I ain't Mad at Cha" was released only a few days after his death. "I ain't Mad at Cha" is track 13 on the album All Eyes On Me. The video shows Tupac as an angel in heaven.  In the video, Tupac was shot after leaving a theater with a friend, which is very similar to how he was shot in real life. Interestingly, Tupac dies in his last video released under the name "Tupac".  His new video "Toss It Up" from the new album was released under the name "Makaveli".

The second video to be released by the name Makaveli is "To Live and Die in L.A." But how could they shoot the second video when he is "dead". Do you really think the video was shot 4 months ago, back in August of '96? Think about it.

In the video "Hail Mary" released under the name Makaveli, there is a gravestone that says Makaveli.  But the gravestone is cracked and there is a hole right in front of it, inferring that Makaveli rose from the dead. 

A shooting involving Snoop Doggy Dogg occured close to the release of his album Doggystyle.  The shooting made Snoop appear more "real" and showed his fans that he really was a gangsta.  The shooting gave him respect because everyone that bought his album believed what he was talking about.  Within one week of its release, Doggystyle went platnium.  Snoop is signed to the same label as Tupac which is Death Row Records. In December '96, Tupac's new album went platinum. 

In interviews prior to the shooting, Tupac talked about how he wanted to stop rapping and being a gangsta and get out of the limelight.  What is the only way Tupac could completly escape the media spotlight ???  (Answer: if the public thought he was dead.) 

There are no suspects for the shooting.

Press wasn't going to be allowed at the funeral, but then the funeral was cancelled for unknown reasons. 

Tupac always wore a bulletproof vest, no matter where he went.  Why didn't he wear it to a very public event like a Tyson fight? (Because he wanted to make it seem like he could be shot.) 

In most of his songs he talks about being buried, so why was he allegedly cremated the day after he "died"?  And since when do they cremate someone the day after death without an autopsy?  Furthermore, it is illegal to bury someone who has been murdered without an autopsy. 

The new Tupac album released on Nov. 5, and was originally supposed to be an EP of 6 songs, but was then extended to a full length album of 12 songs. 

Tupac's alias is Makaveli. Though the spelling is different, Machiavelli was a 16th century italian philosopher who advocated the staging of one's death in order to evade one's enemies and gain power. 

In Machiavelli's book Discourses Upon the First Ten Books of Titus Livy, in Book 2 Chapter XIII he says "a prince who wishes to achieve great things must learn to deceive".  This is Machiavelli's main idea and is the connection between Tupac and the writings of Machiavelli. 

The title of the new album by Makaveli (Tupac) is The 7 Day Theory.  He was shot on September 7th; and survived on the 7th, 8th, 9th, 10th, 11th, 12th, and"died" the 13th. Hence the title The 7 Day Theory. 

Tupac's album All Eyes on Me was released on Feb.13, 1996.  Tupac "died" on Sept.13, 1996.  It is quite a coincidence that the two dates are exactly 7 months apart.

Tupac officially died at 4:03 PM. 4+3 = 7 Also he "died" at an age of 25 years. 2+5 = 7 It seems as if seven is Tupac's number. 

There is nothing in the new album that says TUPAC RIP 1971-1996.  Wouldn't it make sense to include something like that in the first album after his "death"? The only thing mentioned is "EXIT TUPAC ENTER MAKAVELI".

The executive producer of The 7 Day Theory , as listed in the CD booklet of the album, is Simon (who is a previously unknown producer in the rap music industry).  In the bible, Simon was an apostle of Jesus.  Simon was one of the first witnesses of the Resurrection listed by Saint Paul (I Cor. 15: 5).   Could Simon be a reference to Suge Knight(the executive producer of Death Row records)? Simon was renamed "Peter, the rock" (John 1:42). 

In Richie Rich's album Seasoned Veteran, which was released on the same day as The 7 Day Theory, on the song "N*ggas Done Changed" which is a duet with Tupac, Tupac says the following lyrics: "I've been shot and murdered, can't tell you how it happened word for word / but best believe that n*ggas' gonna get what they deserve."  This phrase implies that Tupac knows he will be dead when Richie Rich's album is released. 

In Makaveli's (Tupac's) song "White Man's World" on album The 7 Day Theory, he says "We ain't never gonna walk off this planet unless ya'll choose to." Did he choose to walk off the planet by faking his death? 

In Tupac's song "Ambitionz az a Ridah" on the album All Eyes On Me, he says "Blast me but they didn't finish, didn't diminish my powers so now I'm back to be a mutha****in' menace, they cowards thats why they tried to set me up, had b*tch *ss n*ggas on my team so indeed they wet me up, BUT I'M BACK REINCARNATED."  This implies that Tupac is reincarnated as Makaveli. 

In Tupac's song "Life of an Outlaw" on the album The 7 Day Theory, he says "All for the street fame on how to be managed, to plan sh*t, 6 months in advance to what we plotted, approved to go on swole and now I got it"-Life Of An Outlaw. This implies that Tupac planned his "death" in advance and now he is enjoying the success of his plan.

In Tupac's song "Made Niggaz" from the Supercop Soundtrack, he says "**** 'em all who don't understand my plot to get richer... Outlaw to the grave, a mutha****in' made nigga I got a plan to get richer. Take my picture." Once again he mentions his "plan" to get rich.

In E-40's album Hall Of Game in the song "Million Dollar Spot" which is a duet with Tupac, Tupac says, "Fans can't understand my ghetto slang, so i evade and plot and plan a life of better things...."  Once again Tupac mentions his "plan".

In Tupac's song "Ain't Hard 2 Find" on the album All Eyes On Me, he says "I heard rumors I died, murdered in cold blood, tramatized pictures of me in my final states, you know momma cryed, but that was fiction, some coward got the story twisted."  It seems as if Tupac foretold the future.

Scarface's song "Smile", which is a duet with Tupac, was supposedly recorded in September of '96, before Tupac was "shot". But the video for the song was released in May of '97 and the video depicts Tupac rapping while he appears to be crucified. At the end of the video, Tupac falls off the cross and stands up...which is another image of resurection. Towards the end of the video, it becomes slightly apparent that Tupac is actually portrayed by a look-alike. I still wonder, if he is really dead, then why do they keep making everyone so suspicious???

In the video for "I Wonder if Heaven Got a Ghetto" the town it takes place in is called Rukahs. "Rukahs" spelled backwards is "Shakur".  The room he goes into with the girl is room number 7. The clock in the background at the end is at 4:03...the same time he officially died. More funny stuff from the video producers. My question still remains, why?

In Tupac's song "No More Pain" on the album All Eyes On Me, he says "A heart of a soldier with the brains to teach a whole nation." Could this be a reference to Machievelli or Jesus? 

On the cover of The 7 Day Theory, there is a picture of Tupac being crucified.  This fits with the idea that Tupac "died" so he could be reincarnated as Makaveli. In the picture, there are five bullet holes. Interestingly, Tupac was "shot" 5 times.  

The only witness to the shooting, Yafeu Fula, was found shot to death on Nov. 10th in a hallway of an apartment building in East Orange, NJ.  Hmm...now no one will get any info out of him. (for more info on his death, click here.)

After the shooting of Notorious B.I.G. on March 9th, 1997 Lieutenant Wayne Petersen of the the homicide division of the Las Vegas Police Department who has been investigating Shakur's alleged killing said, "Before yesterday, I had never even heard of the Notorious B.I.G.  There is no link between the two murders. We think the only connection is in the minds of the media. The media wants to connect the two."  If you asked anyone who knows anything about the Tupac case, they would say something about the rivalry between Biggie and Tupac. How will the Las Vegas police ever solve the case if they don't know the basics? The answer is that they won't. C'mon guys, that is pretty pathetic.

According to my friend Roger as well as numerous other sources, in the first three seconds of The 7 Day Theory, the words "Suge shot me" are spoken very softly. Check it out for yourself, but that certainly is suspicious and it must mean something. Click here for the sample as it appears on the CD.

According to Neal, on the song "Thug Luv" which is a duet with Tupac on Bone Thugs-N-Harmony's double CD Art Of War after Tupac says "whuz poppin' n*gga", Bizzy Bone can be heard saying "He's Alive He's Alive He's Alive" in the background.  Click here for the sample.

During an interview, an ABC correspondent asked Suge Knight, "If you knew who killed Tupac, would you tell the police?". Suge answered, "Absolutely not."

On November 25, 1997 a new 2 Pac album will be released on Jive Records called R U Still Down. It is being released under the name "2 Pac" not "Makaveli". This implies many things...does this mean that "2 pac" is back?

I have heard there is a "new" artist called "Blac Haze". The song that I have heard by them is called "Let Me Holla At Cha". A clip can be downloaded here from the site Exit-2 pac-Enter-Makaveli. The rapper sounds like Tupac, at least to me. Check it out for yourself.

In the video "Heaven Gotta Ghetto", the license plate of the car that he gets in with the older man reads "61671". Another obvious occurance of the number seven and the sum of seven (6+1).

This bit of info comes from Michael Penn: In the CD booklet of the "R U Still Down" album the it is written "Keep the faith in me I wont let u down...love 2pac". Can he be advising us not to dwell on his "death" because he is coming back?

This comes from Mike Frankel: If you rearrange the letters in the album title "Makaveli The Don Killuminati The 7Day Theory" You can make the sentence "Ok on tha 7th u think I'm dead yet I'm really alive". Mike explains "7th meaning the 7th day after he was shot, he supposedly died but is really alive." That's quite amazing, try it for yourself.

Doesn't all this sound a bit too ridiculous, although there is no specific fact that makes my theory valid, there is nothing the obviously disproves it, but it all adds up to something, there must be something funny going on.  Don't you think? 

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He's dead.

Ric, in the book "The Killing Of Tupac Shakur" there is pictures of his autopsy in there, I've managed to find the picture, but it isn't very clear. http://www.celebritymorgue.com/tupac-shakur/

If anyone has not read this book try and get your hands on it - a good read!

Katy

Katy

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Eeek that picture was v. bad, although you could fake up a picture like that but thats coming from someone who still thinks Elvis is alive :S

PS whats the point of wearing a bullet proof vest when you can quite easily be shot in the head? :blink:

Bert

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Eeek that picture was v. bad, although you could fake up a picture like that but thats coming from someone who still thinks Elvis is alive  :S

PS whats the point of wearing a bullet proof vest when you can quite easily be shot in the head? :blink:

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That's a very good point me duck!

Babylon

Babylon

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He's dead.

Ric, in the book "The Killing Of Tupac Shakur" there is pictures of his autopsy in there, I've managed to find the picture, but it isn't very clear. http://www.celebritymorgue.com/tupac-shakur/

If anyone has not read this book try and get your hands on it - a good read!

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Errrrm... Is that not the link I posted straight away?!? :blink:

Bert

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He's dead.

Ric, in the book "The Killing Of Tupac Shakur" there is pictures of his autopsy in there, I've managed to find the picture, but it isn't very clear. http://www.celebritymorgue.com/tupac-shakur/

If anyone has not read this book try and get your hands on it - a good read!

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Errrrm... Is that not the link I posted straight away?!? :blink:

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oh yea.... sorry!!

Molson Canadian

Molson Canadian

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tupac was wearing a bulletproof vest that night in las vegas while he was watching the mike tyson vs. seldon fight he took it off later on that night because it was so hot in las vegas and he said he was feeling too warm..... he was shot then 4 -5 times in the chest while sitting at an intersection at east flamingo and koval

Bert

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tupac was wearing a bulletproof vest that night in las vegas while he was watching the mike tyson vs. seldon fight he took it off later on that night because it was so hot in las vegas and he said he was feeling too warm..... he was shot then 4 -5 times in the chest while sitting at an intersection at east flamingo and koval

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Very True Krazydipper,

referring to the passage of Ric Flairs, why would he want to fake his own death??

Ric Flair

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tupac was wearing a bulletproof vest that night in las vegas while he was watching the mike tyson vs. seldon fight he took it off later on that night because it was so hot in las vegas and he said he was feeling too warm..... he was shot then 4 -5 times in the chest while sitting at an intersection at east flamingo and koval

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Very True Krazydipper,

referring to the passage of Ric Flairs, why would he want to fake his own death??

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Tupac wanted out of the limelight he said it himself just a few days/months before he apparently died.

I don't know much about the whole thing, I read that yesterday and it got me thinking. There's something very odd about the whole thing, especially the autopsy bit. How the **** can anybody be killed and have an autopsy and funeral within a day? It doesn't add up to me.

I'll try and read that book though, it sounds shit hot.

Jonbluefox9

Jonbluefox9

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tupac was wearing a bulletproof vest that night in las vegas while he was watching the mike tyson vs. seldon fight he took it off later on that night because it was so hot in las vegas and he said he was feeling too warm..... he was shot then 4 -5 times in the chest while sitting at an intersection at east flamingo and koval

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Are you sure he wasn't shot 7 times as it seems it was his favourite number?! :unsure:

Katy

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tupac was wearing a bulletproof vest that night in las vegas while he was watching the mike tyson vs. seldon fight he took it off later on that night because it was so hot in las vegas and he said he was feeling too warm..... he was shot then 4 -5 times in the chest while sitting at an intersection at east flamingo and koval

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Are you sure he wasn't shot 7 times as it seems it was his favourite number?! :unsure:

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lol:o:unsure: It looked like he was shot in the head as well or was that just autopsiness or decomposition? I didnt like to view the picture for a great length of time for obvious reasons.

Ric Flair

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tupac was wearing a bulletproof vest that night in las vegas while he was watching the mike tyson vs. seldon fight he took it off later on that night because it was so hot in las vegas and he said he was feeling too warm..... he was shot then 4 -5 times in the chest while sitting at an intersection at east flamingo and koval

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Are you sure he wasn't shot 7 times as it seems it was his favourite number?! :unsure:

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lol:o:unsure: It looked like he was shot in the head as well or was that just autopsiness or decomposition? I didnt like to view the picture for a great length of time for obvious reasons.

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I wish I could view the picture, it won't let me!!!!!!!!

Guest

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Some religious groups can insist on earlier funerals.

Katy

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tupac was wearing a bulletproof vest that night in las vegas while he was watching the mike tyson vs. seldon fight he took it off later on that night because it was so hot in las vegas and he said he was feeling too warm..... he was shot then 4 -5 times in the chest while sitting at an intersection at east flamingo and koval

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Are you sure he wasn't shot 7 times as it seems it was his favourite number?! :unsure:

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lol:o:unsure: It looked like he was shot in the head as well or was that just autopsiness or decomposition? I didnt like to view the picture for a great length of time for obvious reasons.

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I wish I could view the picture, it won't let me!!!!!!!!

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Its not pleasant but have you tried copy and pasting the properties into your browser to view it?

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Some people would like to think he is still alive and yes he might be, but the majority of the facts say that he is dead. Even if he is alive he clearly doesn't want people to know about it so it should be left as it is.

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Some people would like to think he is still alive and yes he might be, but the majority of the facts say that he is dead. Even if he is alive he clearly doesn't want people to know about it so it should be left as it is.

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It is abit odd that after he's died material is released under the name Machaveli (spelling) and if you look up what that means, it's the name of an italian chap from the 14th century who faked his own death.

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tupac was first shot at in 1994 he survived after being hit by 5 bullets here's some info on that....

Trouble really began for Tupac after he was shot November 30th, 1994 at 12:20 a.m. It set the grounds for his beef with Biggie/Puffy and Badboy Records. He was shot 5 times in the lobby of Quad Recording Studios in Times Square. There were many theories on this shooting. The media largely portrayed the shooting as a standard robbery, in which Tupac went for his gun, and was shot. According to Tupac however, the story runs a lot deeper.

According to Tupac the trouble began on the set of Above the Rim, where he met a guy named Nigel. Nigel introduced him to Trevor. Both were alleged Black Mafia members and were rumored to fund BadBoy Records. They took Tupac out, and according to Tupac made him 'mature'. They wanted Tupac to join the BadBoy records label, however Tupac refused. This is rumored to be the a reason he was shot. Also, Tupac apparently dissed one of their friends, Jacques Agnant in an interview. This according to Tupac, may have been a reason why he was setup. It's possible, however, that the setup was planned before the point in which Tupac had even met Nigel.

The song 'Against All Odds', in which Tupac states "Hoping my true mother****ers know, this be the truest sh*t I ever wrote" he makes several references to this setup. In reference to King Tut Tupac states, "Gun shots to Tut, now you stuck." Whether related or not, King Tut was murdered after the shooting occurred. Tupac's friend Stretch was later found murdered exactly 1 year to the day of this shooting. Tupac blamed Stretch for being involved in the setup. In ambitionz az a ridah he says, "Had b*tch a** ni**as on my team, so indeed they wet me up". In Against All Odds he says "and to that n*gga that was down for me, rest his head, switched sides guess his new friends wanted him dead." Tupac believed not only the shooting, but also the rape case was part of a setup.

The setup in the shooting seemed to run hand in hand with the rape case Tupac was going through at the time of the shooting. The same cops who arrested Tupac in connection with the alleged rape, were the same cops who arrived on the scene when he was shot. Jacques Agnant aka Haitian Jack, who Tupac claimed was part of the situation in the alleged rape, got off extremely light while Tupac was sentenced to nearly 4 years in a maximum security prison. Tupac retaliated in "Against all Odds" on the Makaveli CD claiming that Jacques Agnant was a government informant "Same Crime, different trials n*gga picture what I said". Agnant is suing Tupacs estate for in excess of $200 million because he says there's been numerous attempts on his life and he can't find work now.

This is where the beef between Tupac and Badboy originally began. The media as they apparently distorted the facts in this shooting, also mistrued the facts in this beef as they played into an Eastcoast/Westcoast war. Tupac never directly blamed Biggie or Puffy in the shooting, but they were his friends, and they never warned him. After he went to prison they never visited him. As Tupac said they 'abandoned' him and 'tried to take his position'. While Tupac was in prison he said he thought about giving up rap all together. He said the reason he didn't was the fact that they were trying to 'dirty up his name and take away everything he'd worked for'.

this is what happened during the second shooting the one that resulted in his death 7 days later in a las vegas hospital when he died from his injuries

Murder Timeline

Saturday, Sept. 7

2:30 p.m. - Tupac Shakur arrives by car in Las Vegas.

5:30 p.m. - People start lining up at Club 662, 1700 E. Flaming Road, where Tupac Shakur and Mike Tyson are to appear after the boxing match.

8:30 p.m. - People start leaving the Mike Tyson - Bruce Seldon fight that was held at the MGM Grand. Tupac Shakur attended the fight which started at 8 p.m. Tyson was declared the winner after 109 seconds in the ring with Seldon.

8:30 to 9 p.m. - Shakur and his bodyguards are involved in a physical scuffle with a man, later identified as Orlando Anderson of Compton, Calif., near the hotel's Grand Garden. Police do not believe the man was in any way connected to the later shooting of Shakur.

11 p.m. - Suge Knight was stopped on Las Vegas Boulevard by Metro patrol cops for playing his car stereo too loudly and for not having license plates on his rented vehicle.He was not cited and was released a few minutes later.

11:15 p.m. - Shakur and Marion "Suge" Knight are shot. Knight is driving and Shakur is in the passenger seat of the 1996 BMW 750 sedan that was eastbound on Flamingo Road. Shakur is shot three times in the chest. Shrapnel grazed Knight's head. A total of 13 shots were fired at the car Shakur was in. After the shooting, Shakur's car made a U-turn and head West on Flamingo. Police reached the car on the Strip where it was caught in traffic at Harmon Avenue. An ambulance then picked up Shakur and Knight taking them to University Medical Center, where Shakur underwent the first of three operations. His right lung is removed to stop internal bleeding.

Sunday, Sept. 8

11 a.m. - Knight is released from the University Medical Center.

6:20 p.m. - Shakur undergoes a second operation at UMC to repair damage from the bullet wounds.

Monday, Sept. 9

8 p.m. - Metro Police and about 20 friends and fans of Shakur are in an altercation over what police call a "misunderstanding." Tensions are calmed with help from a female friend of Shakur's and four men originally handcuffed during the scuffle are released. No one was arrested. Police have been patrolling outside the hospital out of concern for retaliation after the shooting.

Wednesday, Sept. 11

6 p.m. - Knight, accompanied by his attorneys speaks about the shooting to Metro Police for about an hour.

Friday, Sept. 13

4:03 p.m. - Shakur dies from his injuries.

7 p.m. - Coroner's medical examiner performs an autopsy on Shakur's body.

9 p.m. - Shakur's body is released to Davis Mortuary, which - at the request of Shakur's mother - cremates his remains.

Saturday, Sept. 14

11 a.m. - Shakur's remains are given to his mother, Afeni Shakur, who leaves Las Vegas the same day

Tupac Shakur's Death Certificate Details

By Cathy Scott

LAS VEGAS SUN

Reporter Cathy Scott has authored a book on the murder of Tupac Shakur. Here in an exclusive and copyrighted account, she details the coroner's report and death certificate.

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No one followed the mortuary van carrying Tupac Shakur's body from the hospital to the morgue. The van drove three blocks without being noticed.

An autopsy was done the evening of Sept. 13, 1996, almost immediately following his death, according to authorities.

While the autopsy report is not deemed by Nevada state law to be public information, the coroner's report is available to the public. However, after I bought a copy for $5, an office employee later said it had been given to me in error, and that they would not be releasing it to anyone because of the ongoing homicide investigation. To my knowledge, I am the only reporter to have a copy of that report. Six 35-millimeter photos taken during and after the autopsy are on file at the coroner's office, along with the autopsy report.

According to statements on the four-page coroner's report, Tupac Shakur's remains were positively identified by his mother, Afeni Shakur. The autopsy determined that Tupac didn't have any illegal drugs in his system. He was, however, heavily sedated during his hospital stay, it says.

He had been shot in his right hand, right hip and right chest just under his right arm.

"I interviewed the decedent's mother, Afeni Shakur, and she stated that the decedent was not married and he had no children," coroner Investigator Ed Brown wrote in his report. "She stated that Tupac A. Shakur was his name. She was not able to give any more information than this."

After Tupac's arrival at University Medical Center immediately following the shooting, a trauma center surgeon removed one bullet from Tupac's pelvis area.

In a conversation with Ed Brown at the hospital following Tupac's death, the surgeon told Brown that Tupac's injuries included a gunshot wound to his right chest with a "massive hemothorax" and a gunshot wound to the right thigh with "the bullet palpable within the abdomen." Tupac also had a gunshot wound to a right finger with a fracture. The preoperative diagnosis was a gunshot wound to the chest and abdomen and post-operative bleeding.

The one bullet remaining in Tupac's chest was not removed during surgery, but during the autopsy, Coroner Ron Flud told me. It then became evidence, he said.

When Tupac arrived at the hospital's trauma center, he was wheeled into the recovery area and "was resuscitated according to advanced trauma life support protocol," the report said, and "a full trauma activation was called."

He was placed on life support machines. Two liters of blood that had hemorrhaged into his chest cavity were removed. His pulse was "very thready and initially he had a minimal blood pressure, which rapidly declined." He was taken immediately to the operating room for operative intervention and further resuscitation. His right lung was removed.

The report states that Shakur underwent two operations. The first started at 6:25 p.m. on Sept. 8 and lasted an hour. The surgery "consisted of exploratory" procedures. The surgeon noted that it appeared Tupac had had some prior surgery for bullet wounds on his upper right chest area.

The second operation at University Medical Center consisted of "ligation of bleeding" and removal of a bullet from his pelvic area. It was done at midnight on Sept. 8 and completed at 2:35 a.m. on Sept. 9.

Tupac was pronounced dead at 4:03 p.m. Sept. 13 Dr. James Lovett at University Medical Center. Clark County Coroner Investigator Ed Brown was called to the hospital at 4:15 p.m.

"Upon my arrival ... I found no apparent life signs, and trauma was observed to the right hand, right hip and right chest under the right arm, apparently caused from gunshots.''

Death certificate details

In February 1997, SUN reporter Cathy Scott went to the Clark County Office of Vital Statistics and viewed Tupac Shakur's death certificate. The only copy released was to his mother, Afeni Shakur. The original is on file with the county.

It's against Nevada Revised Statute to forge or sign a public document, including death certificates. The death certificate acts as the official notice of death. It includes the following:

Tupac Amaru Shakur was pronounced dead by Dr. Lovett at 4:03 p.m. on Friday, Sept. 13, 1996, at University Medical Center's Intensive Care Unit.

The one-page death certificate was filed with Clark County's vital records section by County Coroner Ron Flud on Sept. 18, 1996. Dr. Ed Brown with Coroner's office signed the certificate.

His mother, Afeni Shakur, made a positive identification of his body at 5 p.m. at the hospital. His body was then taken by Davis Mortuary to the morgue, three blocks away. An autopsy was performed and the official cause of death was respiratory failure and cardiopulmonary arrest in connection with multiple gunshot wounds.

Shakur's occupation was listed as "rap singer" and the company he worked for was shown as "Euphanasia" in Los Angeles, Calif.

A county seal was stamped on the certificate, making it an official document.

i hope that clears up some stuff i got all the info from www.thuglifearmy.com which is a excellent site about tupac and tells exactly what he was about and what he stood for i think anyone interested in tupac should visit the site as it is full of interesting reading

Ric Flair

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tupac was first shot at in 1994 he survived after being hit by 5 bullets here's some info on that....

Trouble really began for Tupac after he was shot November 30th, 1994 at 12:20 a.m. It set the grounds for his beef with Biggie/Puffy and Badboy Records. He was shot 5 times in the lobby of Quad Recording Studios in Times Square. There were many theories on this shooting.  The media largely portrayed the shooting as a standard robbery, in which Tupac went for his gun, and was shot. According to Tupac however, the story runs a lot deeper.

According to Tupac the trouble began on the set of Above the Rim, where he met a guy named Nigel. Nigel introduced him to Trevor.  Both were alleged Black Mafia members and were rumored to fund BadBoy Records. They took Tupac out, and according to Tupac made him 'mature'. They wanted Tupac to join the BadBoy records label, however Tupac refused.  This is rumored to be the a reason he was shot.  Also, Tupac apparently dissed one of their friends, Jacques Agnant in an interview. This according to Tupac, may have been a reason why he was setup.  It's possible, however, that the setup was planned before the point in which Tupac had even met Nigel.

The song 'Against All Odds', in which Tupac states "Hoping my true mother****ers know, this be the truest sh*t I ever wrote" he makes several references to this setup. In reference to King Tut Tupac states, "Gun shots to Tut, now you stuck." Whether related or not, King Tut was murdered after the shooting occurred. Tupac's friend Stretch was later found murdered exactly 1 year to the day of this shooting. Tupac blamed Stretch for being involved in the setup. In ambitionz az a ridah he says, "Had b*tch a** ni**as on my team, so indeed they wet me up". In Against All Odds he says "and to that n*gga that was down for me, rest his head, switched sides guess his new friends wanted him dead." Tupac believed not only the shooting, but also the rape case was part of a setup.

The setup in the shooting seemed to run hand in hand with the rape case Tupac was going through at the time of the shooting. The same cops who arrested Tupac in connection with the alleged rape, were the same cops who arrived on the scene when he was shot. Jacques Agnant aka Haitian Jack, who Tupac claimed was part of the situation in the alleged rape, got off extremely light while Tupac was sentenced to nearly 4 years in a maximum security prison. Tupac retaliated in "Against all Odds" on the Makaveli CD claiming that Jacques Agnant was a government informant "Same Crime, different trials n*gga picture what I said". Agnant is suing Tupacs estate for in excess of $200 million because he says there's been numerous attempts on his life and he can't find work now.

This is where the beef between Tupac and Badboy originally began. The media as they apparently distorted the facts in this shooting, also mistrued the facts in this beef as they played into an Eastcoast/Westcoast war. Tupac never directly blamed Biggie or Puffy in the shooting, but they were his friends, and they never warned him. After he went to prison they never visited him. As Tupac said they 'abandoned' him and 'tried to take his position'. While Tupac was in prison he said he thought about giving up rap all together. He said the reason he didn't was the fact that they were trying to 'dirty up his name and take away everything he'd worked for'.

this is what happened during the second shooting the one that resulted in his death 7 days later in a las vegas hospital when he died from his injuries

Murder Timeline

Saturday, Sept. 7

2:30 p.m. - Tupac Shakur arrives by car in Las Vegas.

5:30 p.m. - People start lining up at Club 662, 1700 E. Flaming Road, where Tupac Shakur and Mike Tyson are to appear after the boxing match.

8:30 p.m. - People start leaving the Mike Tyson - Bruce Seldon fight that was held at the MGM Grand. Tupac Shakur attended the fight which started at 8 p.m. Tyson was declared the winner after 109 seconds in the ring with Seldon.

8:30 to 9 p.m. - Shakur and his bodyguards are involved in a physical scuffle with a man, later identified as Orlando Anderson of Compton, Calif., near the hotel's Grand Garden. Police do not believe the man was in any way connected to the later shooting of Shakur.

11 p.m. - Suge Knight was stopped on Las Vegas Boulevard by Metro patrol cops for playing his car stereo too loudly and for not having license plates on his rented vehicle.He was not cited and was released a few minutes later.

11:15 p.m. - Shakur and Marion "Suge" Knight are shot. Knight is driving and Shakur is in the passenger seat of the 1996 BMW 750 sedan that was eastbound on Flamingo Road. Shakur is shot three times in the chest. Shrapnel grazed Knight's head. A total of 13 shots were fired at the car Shakur was in. After the shooting, Shakur's car made a U-turn and head West on Flamingo. Police reached the car on the Strip where it was caught in traffic at Harmon Avenue. An ambulance then picked up Shakur and Knight taking them to University Medical Center, where Shakur underwent the first of three operations. His right lung is removed to stop internal bleeding.

Sunday, Sept. 8

11 a.m. - Knight is released from the University Medical Center.

6:20 p.m. - Shakur undergoes a second operation at UMC to repair damage from the bullet wounds.

Monday, Sept. 9

8 p.m. - Metro Police and about 20 friends and fans of Shakur are in an altercation over what police call a "misunderstanding." Tensions are calmed with help from a female friend of Shakur's and four men originally handcuffed during the scuffle are released. No one was arrested. Police have been patrolling outside the hospital out of concern for retaliation after the shooting.

Wednesday, Sept. 11

6 p.m. - Knight, accompanied by his attorneys speaks about the shooting to Metro Police for about an hour.

Friday, Sept. 13

4:03 p.m. - Shakur dies from his injuries.

7 p.m. - Coroner's medical examiner performs an autopsy on Shakur's body.

9 p.m. - Shakur's body is released to Davis Mortuary, which - at the request of Shakur's mother - cremates his remains.

Saturday, Sept. 14

11 a.m. - Shakur's remains are given to his mother, Afeni Shakur, who leaves Las Vegas the same day

Tupac Shakur's Death Certificate Details

By Cathy Scott

LAS VEGAS SUN

Reporter Cathy Scott has authored a book on the murder of Tupac Shakur. Here in an exclusive and copyrighted account, she details the coroner's report and death certificate.

---

No one followed the mortuary van carrying Tupac Shakur's body from the hospital to the morgue. The van drove three blocks without being noticed.

An autopsy was done the evening of Sept. 13, 1996, almost immediately following his death, according to authorities.

While the autopsy report is not deemed by Nevada state law to be public information, the coroner's report is available to the public. However, after I bought a copy for $5, an office employee later said it had been given to me in error, and that they would not be releasing it to anyone because of the ongoing homicide investigation. To my knowledge, I am the only reporter to have a copy of that report. Six 35-millimeter photos taken during and after the autopsy are on file at the coroner's office, along with the autopsy report.

According to statements on the four-page coroner's report, Tupac Shakur's remains were positively identified by his mother, Afeni Shakur. The autopsy determined that Tupac didn't have any illegal drugs in his system. He was, however, heavily sedated during his hospital stay, it says.

He had been shot in his right hand, right hip and right chest just under his right arm.

"I interviewed the decedent's mother, Afeni Shakur, and she stated that the decedent was not married and he had no children," coroner Investigator Ed Brown wrote in his report. "She stated that Tupac A. Shakur was his name. She was not able to give any more information than this."

After Tupac's arrival at University Medical Center immediately following the shooting, a trauma center surgeon removed one bullet from Tupac's pelvis area.

In a conversation with Ed Brown at the hospital following Tupac's death, the surgeon told Brown that Tupac's injuries included a gunshot wound to his right chest with a "massive hemothorax" and a gunshot wound to the right thigh with "the bullet palpable within the abdomen." Tupac also had a gunshot wound to a right finger with a fracture. The preoperative diagnosis was a gunshot wound to the chest and abdomen and post-operative bleeding.

The one bullet remaining in Tupac's chest was not removed during surgery, but during the autopsy, Coroner Ron Flud told me. It then became evidence, he said.

When Tupac arrived at the hospital's trauma center, he was wheeled into the recovery area and "was resuscitated according to advanced trauma life support protocol," the report said, and "a full trauma activation was called."

He was placed on life support machines. Two liters of blood that had hemorrhaged into his chest cavity were removed. His pulse was "very thready and initially he had a minimal blood pressure, which rapidly declined." He was taken immediately to the operating room for operative intervention and further resuscitation. His right lung was removed.

The report states that Shakur underwent two operations. The first started at 6:25 p.m. on Sept. 8 and lasted an hour. The surgery "consisted of exploratory" procedures. The surgeon noted that it appeared Tupac had had some prior surgery for bullet wounds on his upper right chest area.

The second operation at University Medical Center consisted of "ligation of bleeding" and removal of a bullet from his pelvic area. It was done at midnight on Sept. 8 and completed at 2:35 a.m. on Sept. 9.

Tupac was pronounced dead at 4:03 p.m. Sept. 13 Dr. James Lovett at University Medical Center. Clark County Coroner Investigator Ed Brown was called to the hospital at 4:15 p.m.

"Upon my arrival ... I found no apparent life signs, and trauma was observed to the right hand, right hip and right chest under the right arm, apparently caused from gunshots.''

Death certificate details

In February 1997, SUN reporter Cathy Scott went to the Clark County Office of Vital Statistics and viewed Tupac Shakur's death certificate. The only copy released was to his mother, Afeni Shakur. The original is on file with the county.

It's against Nevada Revised Statute to forge or sign a public document, including death certificates. The death certificate acts as the official notice of death. It includes the following:

Tupac Amaru Shakur was pronounced dead by Dr. Lovett at 4:03 p.m. on Friday, Sept. 13, 1996, at University Medical Center's Intensive Care Unit.

The one-page death certificate was filed with Clark County's vital records section by County Coroner Ron Flud on Sept. 18, 1996. Dr. Ed Brown with Coroner's office signed the certificate.

His mother, Afeni Shakur, made a positive identification of his body at 5 p.m. at the hospital. His body was then taken by Davis Mortuary to the morgue, three blocks away. An autopsy was performed and the official cause of death was respiratory failure and cardiopulmonary arrest in connection with multiple gunshot wounds.

Shakur's occupation was listed as "rap singer" and the company he worked for was shown as "Euphanasia" in Los Angeles, Calif.

A county seal was stamped on the certificate, making it an official document.

i hope that clears up some stuff i got all the info from www.thuglifearmy.com which is a excellent site about tupac and tells exactly what he was about and what he stood for i think anyone interested in tupac should visit the site as it is full of interesting reading

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Very interesting. I didn't really know much about it until recently, so that is music to my ears. Why was there never a police investigation? Or is that just a myth?

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