BoneDog Posted 3 February 2013 Posted 3 February 2013 Bought some nice new taps for the bathroom sink. Also bought a pair of vise grips to hold the contraption with and thought I was good to go. Was sure you could do it all from above the sink but turns out I was wrong! I now need to buy a basin spanner, some plumbers tape and probably also a box spanner. Is it the 27mm / 32mm box spanner I'll need? I've also got to change a washer on the hot bath tap. I've taken the top of the tap off and it's all white plastic underneath. Was expecting the metal type and have no idea what to do with the plastic type. Theres a big plastic nut at the top of the plastic but it looks to be joined onto the rest of the fitting - do I just undo this nut to get to the washer?
Rincewind Posted 3 February 2013 Posted 3 February 2013 This is one reason I don't think I'd get the handymans job I have an application form for. I don't know what the feck any of the above means. (well not much) I'm so glad the Housing Association I rent my flat off deals with the maintenance.
BoneDog Posted 7 February 2013 Posted 7 February 2013 Got a basin and box spanner now but forgot the plumbers tape. Can I fit the new taps in without using any tape? Also, I've tried to change the washer on another tap but can't lift the actual tap turner off. Took the screw out but the top won't lift off. Is it glued on or something?
Webbo Posted 7 February 2013 Posted 7 February 2013 Got a basin and box spanner now but forgot the plumbers tape. Can I fit the new taps in without using any tape? Yeah sure you can.
The Year Of The Fox Posted 7 February 2013 Posted 7 February 2013 Bloody hell no you dont need ptfe tape to fit taps. Just the small red tap connector washer will do. They can break easily though especially if wet or old ones. El empty, sounds like its just stuck on, probably needs forcing off
The Year Of The Fox Posted 7 February 2013 Posted 7 February 2013 Bought some nice new taps for the bathroom sink. Also bought a pair of vise grips to hold the contraption with and thought I was good to go. Was sure you could do it all from above the sink but turns out I was wrong! I now need to buy a basin spanner, some plumbers tape and probably also a box spanner. Is it the 27mm / 32mm box spanner I'll need? ？ I've also got to change a washer on the hot bath tap. I've taken the top of the tap off and it's all white plastic underneath. Was expecting the metal type and have no idea what to do with the plastic type. Theres a big plastic nut at the top of the plastic but it looks to be joined onto the rest of the fitting - do I just undo this nut to get to the washer? Sounds like the nut is part of the body of the valve. Can you undo it？hope you've turned the water off
The Year Of The Fox Posted 7 February 2013 Posted 7 February 2013 Easier if you send a picture el empty!
Zingari Posted 7 February 2013 Posted 7 February 2013 yeah , send us a picture of your waterworks empty
pSinatra Posted 7 February 2013 Posted 7 February 2013 Got a basin and box spanner now but forgot the plumbers tape. Can I fit the new taps in without using any tape? Also, I've tried to change the washer on another tap but can't lift the actual tap turner off. Took the screw out but the top won't lift off. Is it glued on or something? I'm not sure PTFE is necessary? I've changed basin taps before & didn't use any. A little tip that my Dad gave me that might be useful. When mucking about with pipework, tie a little tissue paper around the pipe/s when you are finished. Check on the tissue paper now & then. It should show any tiny leaks you may not have previously noticed........before the water works it's way under the floorboards & you've got water dripping from the kitchen ceiling!!
BoneDog Posted 7 February 2013 Posted 7 February 2013 Sounds like the nut is part of the body of the valve. Can you undo it？hope you've turned the water off The bath washer is sorted now. Thought I'd just try and undo the plastic nut thing and it worked. I wouldn't if I were you. That's what I thought! Bloody hell no you dont need ptfe tape to fit taps. Just the small red tap connector washer will do. They can break easily though especially if wet or old ones. El empty, sounds like its just stuck on, probably needs forcing off The reason I ask about tape is I saw a video of a guy changing taps and when he put the long bit at the bottom of the new tap onto the water pipe he wrapped a bit of tape around the end of the water pipe first and then poked it in. Thought that was to stop leaks or something! Good news about the stuck on tap, I'll give it some welly then Just to be sure, are you giving me the go ahead to do these new taps without tape? And what's this small red connector washer thing? Will it be in my new tap already?
The Year Of The Fox Posted 7 February 2013 Posted 7 February 2013 I'm not sure PTFE is necessary? I've changed basin taps before & didn't use any. A little tip that my Dad gave me that might be useful. When mucking about with pipework, tie a little tissue paper around the pipe/s when you are finished. Check on the tissue paper now & then. It should show any tiny leaks you may not have previously noticed........before the water works it's way under the floorboards & you've got water dripping from the kitchen ceiling!! Tissues are a plumbers best mate and when tightening the tap connectors (the brass nut at the top of the pipe, hold the tap from above to stop it spinning I wish you luck, basin taps can be a pain even for a plumber
Zingari Posted 7 February 2013 Posted 7 February 2013 I think you should get a proper man in to do it Empty
BoneDog Posted 7 February 2013 Posted 7 February 2013 yeah , send us a picture of your waterworks empty The forum ladies will be very disappointed to hear that I'm far too classy for that malarkey! I'm not sure PTFE is necessary? I've changed basin taps before & didn't use any. A little tip that my Dad gave me that might be useful. When mucking about with pipework, tie a little tissue paper around the pipe/s when you are finished. Check on the tissue paper now & then. It should show any tiny leaks you may not have previously noticed........before the water works it's way under the floorboards & you've got water dripping from the kitchen ceiling!! Bungalow! High Five. I'll still try the paper tip though. Good idea.
The Year Of The Fox Posted 7 February 2013 Posted 7 February 2013 The bath washer is sorted now. Thought I'd just try and undo the plastic nut thing and it worked. That's what I thought! The reason I ask about tape is I saw a video of a guy changing taps and when he put the long bit at the bottom of the new tap onto the water pipe he wrapped a bit of tape around the end of the water pipe first and then poked it in. Thought that was to stop leaks or something! Good news about the stuck on tap, I'll give it some welly then Just to be sure, are you giving me the go ahead to do these new taps without tape? And what's this small red connector washer thing? Will it be in my new tap already? Youll see the red washer in the rim of the tap connector (the fitting soldered to the end of the pipe) youll only see it once the old taps have been taken off. It can be hard checking if they're intact or not, try looking the the tap holes with a torch. You're not holding me liable if anything goes wrong, but i assure you if the tap connector washers are in tact no PTFE tape is required. You mean the plumber put tape on the threaded part of the tap don't you？the washer does all the work mate.
BoneDog Posted 7 February 2013 Posted 7 February 2013 and when tightening the tap connectors (the brass nut at the top of the pipe, hold the tap from above to stop it spinning I wish you luck, basin taps can be a pain even for a plumber Losing a bit of confidence now. What's the worst that can happen? I think you should get a proper man in to do it Empty I've spent all my pocket money on the taps and tools and I'm not willing to dip into the birthday pot. That's for giving to bookmakers. It's times like this that I wish I was a success like Nick Ross.
BoneDog Posted 7 February 2013 Posted 7 February 2013 Youll see the red washer in the rim of the tap connector (the fitting soldered to the end of the pipe) youll only see it once the old taps have been taken off. It can be hard checking if they're intact or not, try looking the the tap holes with a torch. You're not holding me liable if anything goes wrong, but i assure you if the tap connector washers are in tact no PTFE tape is required. You mean the plumber put tape on the threaded part of the tap don't you？the washer does all the work mate. Not sure what I mean tbh Here's the video that I was talking about, not that it matters now you've told me about the red thingy-majig. Plumbers tape part at 1.44. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HkQxO-7IVP8 Cheers for all the info and help. Think I'm going to leave it until tomorrow now cos it will probably take me a while even though it looks like quite a quick job. I'm quite well known for being a slow mover. My old boss called me Nimrod.
The Year Of The Fox Posted 7 February 2013 Posted 7 February 2013 Losing a bit of confidence now. What's the worst that can happen? I've spent all my pocket money on the taps and tools and I'm not willing to dip into the birthday pot. That's for giving to bookmakers. It's times like this that I wish I was a success like Nick Ross. If you get the old taps off without cracking the basin the next worst is flooding it . Do it asap and then keep checking it during the evening. Its not uncommon for very slight leaks to show after a couple of hours or so. Turning the tap on and off wont check anything. Once you can see its not pissing out leave the tap off and let the pressure build up. If you have separate isolation valve for that tap, turn it off overnight
The Year Of The Fox Posted 7 February 2013 Posted 7 February 2013 Not sure what I mean tbh Here's the video that I was talking about, not that it matters now you've told me about the red thingy-majig. Plumbers tape part at 1.44. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HkQxO-7IVP8 Cheers for all the info and help. Think I'm going to leave it until tomorrow now cos it will probably take me a while even though it looks like quite a quick job. I'm quite well known for being a slow mover. My old boss called me Nimrod. Right, forget that video, the woman is showing you whats called a nut and olive (compression connection) Plumbers do sometimes use PTFE tape around the olive (the round thing clamped onto the pipe) though its more usual they use jointing compound. I'd imagine your pipework and connection to the tap will look something more like this See red washer at 13seconds
BoneDog Posted 7 February 2013 Posted 7 February 2013 I'm quite well known for being a slow mover. My old boss called me Nimrod. Hmmm, I always thought he called me Nimrod because I was slow and there was a super fast plane or fighter jet called the Nimrod. Just checked and it turns out I could be wrong and he may have called it me as another word for 'dipshit', 'silly' or 'foolish'. Slightly disappointing http://ask.yahoo.com/20040211.html If you get the old taps off without cracking the basin the next worst is flooding it . Do it asap and then keep checking it during the evening. Its not uncommon for very slight leaks to show after a couple of hours or so. Turning the tap on and off wont check anything. Once you can see its not pissing out leave the tap off and let the pressure build up. If you have separate isolation valve for that tap, turn it off overnight I'm going to have to print off all this info and stick it on the bathroom wall
The Year Of The Fox Posted 7 February 2013 Posted 7 February 2013 Plumbers do not look like that very often either. Here's a better video, should be more suitable (and realistic in terms of plumbers looks) Watch from 4 mins 30 secs to hear what I'm getting at
Zingari Posted 8 February 2013 Posted 8 February 2013 Is Empty OK ? He hasn't drowned or been washed away has he?
FurtiveFox Posted 8 February 2013 Posted 8 February 2013 Are there any competent, trustworthy plumbers anywhere? They tend to all be rogues.
Zingari Posted 8 February 2013 Posted 8 February 2013 Are there any competent, trustworthy plumbers anywhere? They tend to all be rogues. Agreed , but not as bad as painters and decorators , they are the worst of the bib 'n brace mafia . Electricians are very honest though
FurtiveFox Posted 8 February 2013 Posted 8 February 2013 Agreed , but not as bad as painters and decorators , they are the worst of the bib 'n brace mafia . Electricians are very honest though I'd agree electricians tend to be more professional than plumbers. However I would say in my experience plumbers are the worst rogues of all. If I had my way they would be the first we'd look at in connection with selective breeding.
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