davieG Posted 12 September 2014 Posted 12 September 2014 The FL is an organisation that clubs choose to apply to join in doing so they accept the rules of that organisation. If qpr didn't like the rules they could/should have resigned. Fair play is abiding by the rules of the organisation you choose to joun.
Number 6 Posted 12 September 2014 Posted 12 September 2014 I really want QPR to get relegated this season.
Dan Posted 13 September 2014 Posted 13 September 2014 If we wanted to prevent another Portsmouth surely the best solution is to just ban Redknapp from all football activity.
Rob1742 Posted 14 September 2014 Posted 14 September 2014 I disagree with Harrys comments. If everyone were allowed to spend as much as the highest clubs expenditure, then we wouldn't have moved forwards and won't be offering protection to the smaller clubs. With FFP, it creates the need to live within your means and gives a degree of protection to those that do. That protection being that other clubs can't just spend their way out of the league and league the ones who are doing the right thing to suffer. Yes, it means we cannot compete with Man U, but at least it means there is a better chance of us not going bust again. Two issues I do have with it though are: 1. I think fines should be distributed within football somehow rather than taken from the game. Maybe to the lower leagues to improve grounds or youth football. 2. Need to find a way to take sponsorship out of the equation as the bigger clubs are using this to get around the situation.
suffolk fox Posted 19 September 2014 Posted 19 September 2014 Financial fair play is not fair at all and Harry does have a point. clubs like Utd, Chelsea, Man City are millions of pounds in debt but because who they are the brand etc they will never be penalised. It should not be callled fair play at all. Would agree with it if the money gained from it was distributed throughout the lower leagues to clubs who abide by it as was mooted by the original scheme and agreed upon by all teams in the football league. Fa and others then get together move the goal posts and state the fines should go to charity? Football and clubs who abide by it get nothing. Is it right that a club millions in debt like Man Utd, especially their owners, can spend what they like and not be penalised for it? Sole proof to me that money and moneymen have ruined football. It's already happening whereby the premier league is virtually three leagues in one the top six, middle six and bottom six all in mini leagues. It needs to be reviewed and thought out properly. In life there will always be the haves and have nots that is life, but it needs to be fair. Is it right that a team that abides by it gets nothing from it but can't afford to buy decent players and languishes in the bottom six all season? Another team who sticks two fingers up to it buys who they like in order to win the league? Look at Man City, their recent punishment by Uefa, you can only have a squad of 21 players? Whooooopeeeeedu
Dan Posted 19 September 2014 Posted 19 September 2014 UEFA won't properly punish sides like Man City & PSG because UEFA rely on clubs of their ilk for viewing figures. Parma on the other hand, a less attractive club, didn't get so lucky. Money has absolutely ruined the game from top to bottom to the extent there simply isn't a solution other than to grin and bear it and hope for some sort of compromise. The glory hunting scum have won.
davieG Posted 19 September 2014 Posted 19 September 2014 Clubs have always been supported by money men going way, way back probably right back to the start of the FL. The difference was they were local business owner money men and it was more or less a hobby, yes even back then but they weren't run at loss or lose their investment. Today's money men are a completely different 'species' and even then they're are not wholly to blame that is surely falls on the specific group of money men running the 'big' clubs when they created the PL in cahoots with SKY seeing ££££££££s in their eyes. Unfortunately for them it snowballed and they appear to have totally lost control to the new breed of today's ever increasing foreign ownership.
Strokes Posted 20 September 2014 Posted 20 September 2014 Sole proof to me that money and moneymen have ruined football. It's already happening whereby the premier league is virtually three leagues in one the top six, middle six and bottom six all in mini leagues.but what about the other two?
Guest Col city fan Posted 20 September 2014 Posted 20 September 2014 Financial fair play is not fair at all and Harry does have a point. clubs like Utd, Chelsea, Man City are millions of pounds in debt but because who they are the brand etc they will never be penalised. It should not be callled fair play at all. Would agree with it if the money gained from it was distributed throughout the lower leagues to clubs who abide by it as was mooted by the original scheme and agreed upon by all teams in the football league. Fa and others then get together move the goal posts and state the fines should go to charity? Football and clubs who abide by it get nothing. Is it right that a club millions in debt like Man Utd, especially their owners, can spend what they like and not be penalised for it? Sole proof to me that money and moneymen have ruined football. It's already happening whereby the premier league is virtually three leagues in one the top six, middle six and bottom six all in mini leagues. It needs to be reviewed and thought out properly. In life there will always be the haves and have nots that is life, but it needs to be fair. Is it right that a team that abides by it gets nothing from it but can't afford to buy decent players and languishes in the bottom six all season? Another team who sticks two fingers up to it buys who they like in order to win the league? Look at Man City, their recent punishment by Uefa, you can only have a squad of 21 players? Whooooopeeeeedu Great post.. There is simply no level playing field. But whilst people knock QPR for spending money to try to stay in the Prem, many conveniently overlook the likes of Man Utd, Man City and Chelsea who spend more on one signing than QPR have spent on their entire squad. The 'big boys' simply stick two fingers up to FFP and treat it with contempt. The issue again is basically a dislike on this forum of Redknapp, not of QPR per se. Fernandes is trying to better the football club he owns. But its a big gamble. If it pays off, they'll probably be ok and grow into the club he wishes them to be. If not, it will be a huge and very expensive error. Only time will tell. But any concept of a level playing field is just wrong. It just doesn't exist and never has done.
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