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If some guy was running over rooftops with a lighted flame he'd be shot and called a terrorist. Have the French learned nothing?

I imagine they saw the plans for the ceremony and thought they needed to save the rest of Europe from this torture.

If I took recreational drugs, this is what I'd be seeing every day.

If the build up news items were to be believed, this was to be the best opening ceremony.... ever. Fail. I'm now listening to R2 with Michelle Visage. That's how dull it is. Edit: not literally with Michelle Visage. I mean, she's not like, in my kitchen. That would be weird.

Perv.

Bit shit so far, a parade of boats with not much happening. No atmosphere, no action, nothing to see here. Lady Gaga was rubbish. I want to see the burning of the sheep.

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Don't bother with the plant.

Scarborough is the Leeds Skegness.

You're quoting Donald Trump there, right?

That's the cornerstone of this forum but, the great thing about FT I think, is the wider ranging topics and discussions that go on. Unlike other club forums, we seem to have a very good and intelligent group of posters that can offer opinions and debate topics as they arise.

And all down to the one officer. He (the officer) must been out of control to the extent that he seemed to completely forget or disregard the fact that he and his colleagues have body worn cameras, as well as airport CCTV covering all areas and his actions would be recorded from several angles. I'd like to be a fly on the wall at his disciplinary hearing.

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I've just seen the interview with the Reform MP on the news regarding the Manchester Airport incident. Unbelievable. This is the text, I couldn't find the video. IMO the CT scan bit is irrelevant. I doubt the scan would have changed his view: Speaking before the CT scan, Anderson claimed: “The message I am getting loud and clear from my constituents is they are fed up with seeing police dancing around rainbows and being nice to people and running off from rioters. “They want police to do their job, and I think these police yesterday should be commended. “In fact, I’d give them a medal.”

I have worked alongside police officers on many occasions in all types of situations and I have to say that each and every one of them worked in a professional way. Personally I witnessed nothing more than exemplary behaviour despite what they and I were confronted with. It's a shame that the sort of behaviour shown in the video clip seems to categorise police officers as violent and impatient and overreacting and people will jump on clips like this to vent, regardless. IME the police are anything but.

A small but very vocal minority, mostly with a grievance against them for whatever reason. There is nothing perfect in any walk of life or any profession and we have to accept faults and failings in everything and everyone. Sadly there's a minority that can't.

I don't hold out much hope as there have been years of brushing the issue under the carpet by both governments in the 30 or so years since Thatcher and her "care in the community" bollocks. And I, like many others on FT, have personal experience of the lack of REAL support and action from all major political parties. Speaking out is one thing, actually and meaningfully pressurising ministers to act, is another.

The only facts that are what we see in the 44 seconds recorded on a phone. What we don't see are the "facts" leading up to that which possibly have been deliberately left out of the phone footage to promote/provoke reaction on Twitter or whatever. I agree that what we see, is appalling and the officers actions are beyond reasonable but, when you read the statement from GMP it's apparent that something occurred before what we see online. Before we all leap to judge, we should wait to evaluate the whole incident. But of course, being social meeedja, we won't, and haven't, as you can see from posts on here.

I get your point. Perhaps I was simply expecting too much from my local MP and I guess I'm not the only one. I very much doubt Luke Evans is going to raise my personal concerns about the state of our MH services in Parliament unless there's a significant lobby supporting me. In the same way as he never even replied to an invitation to visit the local foodbanks. That gives the impression that they didn't matter to him, he had bigger fish to fry. And I guess that applies to most MP's in office and the individual or "small" matters of concern get filtered down to local Councillors

Exactly. See my post, above.

But don't the party whips carry an undue threat against an MP I might have voted for because I wanted them to represent me as an individual and to take on board the issues important to me and those that I believe are important to our country? How can any elected MP be expected to uphold the reasons they were elected if they can be browbeaten by party whips in order to follow government dictats that they fundamentally don't agree with? What's the point?

It seems to me that these individuals and groups have in some cases a quite positive effect but also can be adversely influential particularly amongst the younger and less life savvy amongst society. Should there be a statutory code of conduct ?

Are government whips a good thing or are they just a method of bullying MP's to toe the line against their better judgement which, to me, seems just against the democratic principles of parliament

Apparently beating off a horse isn't allowed either

Apparently beating off a horse isn't allowed either