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I hope we hear something about who it might be soon, just praying it's not Carsley

They've also been very hard to beat (unlike us) and he's working with a squad that's had bargain basement additions and was bottom of the league when he took over, yet he's still got them in the playoffs with teams that have spent an absolute fortune. I think people are keen because - given the circumstances - he's doing a good job and the club are overperforming.

Or plenty of punters have read online that we're interested and have lumped on. It's no indicator of reality whatsoever.

Would he? He's at least got a good track record of going into clubs that are struggling, with limited budgets, and turning things around - albeit at a lower level. Ruud has managed one of the best teams in the Netherlands who are expected to be in title contention most seasons, and a couple of games at United (two of them against us, and we're ****ing shit!)

A new DOF and Corberan at the wheel, and I'll be a lot more optimistic of our chances of staying up than with the Cooper/Rudders clown car.

What is this from? I can hear it in my head and I can't place it 😫

RVN or Corberan and I'll be reasonably happy tbh. Think Ruud's got something about him. Did a good job with PSV during the time when Slot was smashing it left, right and centre with Feyenoord. Seemed to be able to get a tune out of United in those couple of games he had with them too. I think the football would certainly be more attractive. Corberan's the one we should have appointed in the summer tbf.

I obviously want us to stay up, but not at any cost. There's a reason most West Ham fans wanted Moyes out by the end of his tenure - and the club is still trying to unpick the style of team he turned them into. I don't want us transformed into some constant drain-circling PL team, just scraping survival every season. There are other ways of doing it - Brentford, Brighton, Bournemouth, Villa are all thriving because they have a clear identity and clear way of doing things.

With my tinfoil hat on, I wonder if they'd got Potter lined up but didn't want the media circus of his first game being vs his old club/our old manager and a really tough fixture generally.

RVN will be looking for a job soon, bin Coop and get him in

I do take your point, we could be going out attacking and then getting battered every week and I suppose we'd all be calling Cooper naive for not being pragmatic. But at the same time, I don't think we're playing a particularly well-drilled, organised style of defensive football - there's no clear counter attacking style, we don't really have a clear way of playing in my mind. It doesn't feel like there's much organisation there - do we play out from the back? Do we soak up pressure and counter? What do we actually do? Maybe it's just more clear after Maresca - who, love it or hate it, had a way of playing that was clear and defined. We just seem... aimless to me.

I disagree with the Maresca comment - I feel he'd probably be doing slightly better, not amazing, but he probably wins the Palace game, maybe the Everton game. The results aren't particularly the problem at the minute - they're ok, they're not terrible. The main issues are the things everyone can see - the bad game management, bad subs, the lack of any discernible game plan or tactics outside of ultra defensive setups. The numbers point to a side that is creating very little and conceding a lot of possession, shots and chances, but is currently being carried through by individual quality - but that can't and won't last forever. To me that suggests that what's happening at the minute is happening in spite of the manager rather than because of him, and that's a worrying place to be.

anyone got a stream?

Tbf he's been ****ing shit for them until this game

Would he? I reckon we would probably have more points on the board at this stage than we do under Cooper. He would have carried on playing the way he had us playing last season, which we already had the players for. Not saying it would have been rosy, and we wouldn't struggle, but I think he leads us to a higher league finish than Cooper in all honesty.

As expected, individual quality is currently covering for his terrible tactics and poor in-game management/subs - you're right, it will end and soon, and then we're in the shit.

His primary thought going into games appears to always be 'don't lose' - so we set up conservatively, try and 'keep it tight' and then when we inevitably go a goal down anyway, we have to chase the game. That's my view on it anyway. You can't just park the bus and expect to not concede these days, teams will just go through you. We're evidently much better when we try and actually play.

The more I read this, the more I worry - if there was a tactical plan that we weren't quite executing right, it'd be one thing, but it looks more as though there isn't a plan and it's moments of individual quality that are dragging us through at the minute in terms of turning losses into draws etc. I think if we could see the idea, if we could understand what he's trying to do, that would placate the fanbase - he just seems like a man without a plan.

Top has no interest in getting rid of Rudkin, he loves the bloke, he clearly thinks he's doing a great job - that's the problem.

Ok cool, you sound nice. Good chat.

I'm not defending him. Just saying I feel sorry for him.

He clearly is, and he's clearly the wrong fit here too and the board should call time on it - those two things can both be true. I hate to see anyone struggling - he must feel like shit when he gets home after nights like last night.

The problem is the board, they **** it up every time.