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It's the politics of division based along demographic lines, and often those lines are entirely arbitrary. And that kind of disunity really won't lead anywhere good. Soon. Exactly. People only need look at the East Asian industrialised nations to see what you're saying here. Unless one wants to regress to a Mad Max style city-state, the idea of an ethnostate in this time is not only morally abhorrent, it's also wildly impractical. Since such terms were invented for the French legislature around the time of their Revolution, they certainly are old labels that may not really apply now. At the end of the day, we're all human, and there really is no need to invent division and problems between ourselves when surviving on this planet for any meaningful length of time is so difficult anyway.

When it's unjustified, certainly. That being said, there are some out there who are exactly both of those things. And they can and will use those concerns to leverage power for themselves and their sadism.

Agreed, but I'm not sure how relevant an argument that is right now given how much social media is bleeding into real life action.

And funnily enough the same arguments aren't used for men's non league football either. Echo the point made by @RowlattsFox above. The reasons for the double standard are reasonably obvious. Best not to get into it on this thread, though.

Well, well well...

It helps if you understand sociopathy.

Yeah. Something that has been mooted as a threat for a very long time.

Agreed. And seeing as the Overton Window over there is so ridiculously skewed that a third party coming in that would actually tell Trump what people actually caring about the future think of him would be a nice option. Unfortunately it appears that the system over there is just fossilised rubbish.

Tbf both of these anthems are shite for different reasons. Gimme Fields of Athenry or La Marseillaise any day. Come on England.

Don't know if this will be enough to cause proper damage to this administration, but I certainly hope so.

Sorry Para I mean, welcome to how the English-speaking world talks about politics these days. So much angry noise, so little substance besides causing hurt to other human beings.

Welcome to Anglosphere political discourse in the year 2025.

Tip of the (rapidly shrinking) iceberg resources-wise, for the UK and the world.

And the Speaker of the House is shutting it down for summer early rather than risk a motion being brought on the Epstein files. That doesn't look guilty at all.

I sincerely hope that she has any important files stowed away ready for release in the event that anything untoward happens to her. That would be reasonably obvious as a course of action.

As are the majority of his supporter base (exceptions made for ones like Vance who are pretty smart and therefore their actions are based on straight up self-interested sociopathy). It does sound like the folks at UNESCO had seen this coming, in any case.

https://www.reuters.com/world/trump-pulls-us-out-un-cultural-agency-unesco-second-time-2025-07-22/ PARIS/WASHINGTON, July 22 (Reuters) - President Donald Trump pulled the United States out of the U.N. culture and education agency UNESCO on Tuesday, repeating a move he had already ordered during his first term, which had been reversed under Joe Biden. The withdrawal from the Paris-based agency, which was founded after World War Two to promote peace through international cooperation in education, science, and culture, will take effect on December 31, 2026. "X First" nationalism is directly inimical to making the world a better place for our species or any other.

Ah, and so the Kashmir with its abundance of the most important strategic resource of them all finally begins to enter the wider public world. Traditional nationalism cannot survive the fissioning of the atom. One world or none. - Stuart Chase Put in "any significant dip in vital resources" instead of "the fissioning of the atom" there and you have what people, and governments, need to realise and are mostly still in denial about.

And the worst thing about it all is that this stubbornness and anger may actually be being cultivated for the purposes of personal gain.

That website is a fantastic resource, isn't it? We're certainly getting better at mitigating such things, as is borne out by the numbers, but the fact remains that they still present a bigger threat to life and livelihood than direct human action and there is a distinct lack of focus on them by comparison (last two words being the important part there). We do need to do better, as you imply - the natural pressures that create such problems are only going to increase.

... and put the money for it right into organisations that directly visit violence upon people. (But they call it "defence" and "securing the border", so that's OK, apparently.) No "war on famine", or "war on malaria", or "war on cancer" (with what appears to be a blank cheque to fight it), even though those, to name but three, are bigger threats to human life and livelihood than direct human acts. Like I said, cognitive dissonance.

Please bear in mind that both famine and at least some disease are also natural disasters (in that the cause of death requires no direct human agency). One such disease - malaria - caused 608,000 deaths, famine, a toll in the hundreds of thousands, both last year. I stand by what I said. Natural events such as these are a much greater killer than human violence outside the very specific circumstance of nuclear exchange or large-scale orchestrated action like the Holocaust.

In terms of individual high temperatures? No. In terms of consistent high temperatures and average temperature? Three of the last seven summers. And, in all likelihood, this one.

Quite. It's rather an extraordinary amount of cognitive dissonance that convinces a lot of humans that other humans and human violence represent the biggest direct threat to their lives and health, when the statistics are so heavily in favour of that biggest threat being "natural" consequences (whether human-driven or otherwise).

Far too many wannabe Lord Palmerstones around, yes.