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Okoli would have been quicker than probably their whole attack. Would definitely have chosen him over Coady.

Kinda agree but also fresh start, or it should be. For me this was the game to let Stephy loose. Although I suppose it depends on shape, if the LW is the player he wants to cut inside in to the "box" so the LB can overlap then eh. Lets hope he learns quickly VK can't do that but then I understand why Mavididi wouldn't be as effective.

I too would let you take a bullet for Mads.

This should be a given. The level of personal abuse handed out to a 23 year old from Syston who has been on the books at the club since he was 7 is ****ing shameful. It seems like "one of our own!" only actually matters if you're very good at football, otherwise **** you, get out of the club. At the end of the day, he isn't really a good enough footballer to be in the squad and it is disappointing that the squad has been so badly managed that he's still one of our only real options in his position but none of that is his fault and if his name is on the teamsheet then he should be getting everyone's support. It is in all of our interests to see Luke Thomas be the best Luke Thomas he can and booing and moaning and complaining every time he gets near the ball won't exactly help the kid's confidence.

He shouldn't really have gone back last time tbf I swear he's been their manager five hundred times now.

Isn't there precedent from a while back? Papis Cisse I think, refused to wear a sponsor on religious grounds? I can't actually remember if he got his way or not but I remember it being a thing.

Every time we get linked to Wout Weghost I throw up a bit in my mouth. Steve Howard is in my all time top five "least favourite LCFC players that other people like."

Ugh

Isn't there a Sean Dyche one? I mean, nuff said?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/c4gxgplmk55o Even by the BBC's standards that's a bit of a crap article. No it hasn't. That's not what spursy means at all. Spursy means having the mental fortitude of a wet paper bag and collapsing under any amount of pressure, often throwing away a promising position. It means being huge bottle jobs. Something we did our best to emulate a lot under late era Rodgers.

He didn't say 343, he said three-box-three, which is slightly different. It's a way of interpreting how we lined up with Enzo. The 'three' are Doyle/JJ, Vestergaard, Faes. The "box" is Ricardo, Winks and the 8s. The attacking three obviously is Vards/Daka with Mav and Fatawu. Then defensively, Ndidi drops more defensively in to a "four" with Ricardo going back to full back and KDH pushes on with Vards to make it a 442 without the ball. Will be interesting to see how Ruud imagines actually does that though because at PSV he did use a "Doyle-style" semi-CB coming narrow off the right to make a back four, who he praised for having a good passing range. But the opposite side full back was Patrick van Aanholt and he wasn't doing the Ricardo bit cutting in to the midfield, he was bombing on down the left letting Xavi Simons cut inside and roam. I really ****ing hope Ruud isn't thinking of doing the same here with VK being his PVA. VK can't do it and it hobbles Mavididi if we take away his width and expecting him to cut in. Would much rather put a RB on attacking duties and let Facundo cut in ahead of them, especially with Fatawu out injured now anyway.

Liverpool are an infinitely better run club than United are or were. The problem with SAF being the last of the great "managers" is that they were enormously codependent on one man essentially running the club. When he left, they were so determined to keep up that model they never really modernised the club and they still haven't really. I'm not a fan of 99% of American owners in the sport but John Henry is a very, very intelligent man who understands not just business success but sporting success. Liverpool have gone toe to toe with Man City for the last decade because the two clubs understand how to recruit to win, on and off the pitch.

Not sure if you're aware of this, hombre. Some really ****ing stupid people watch football.

I know it's not a popular opinion at all here at the moment but I think these belong in the potential to be good enough category. They have the raw materials but they need to be part of a well coached and well organised defence and both need to be settled and confident. We've seen JJ be an excellent contributor to good Leicester teams winning good games. I don't buy the notion that he's crocked, the same guy is there he just seems very heavily influenced by coaching. Even Faes has had some good performances and shown promise in a Leicester shirt but his mistakes absolutely snowball like crazy when his confidence isn't there. I'd prefer it if we could replace them mid to long term with more robust and less accident prone options but I do feel they're the pantomime villains a little bit at the moment to an extent that's getting a tiny bit unfair.

Do you actually watch football? This statement alone is wild.

I'm definitely someone that sees the positives in our players more than the negatives, I think, whilst others tend to get stuck seeing our players only as 'shit.' I don't mean this in any happy-clappy, get-behind-the-lads, not-allowed-to-criticise them sense. It's just my bias, if you play for Leicester than I usually tend to look upon you more favourably than if you didn't (unless you're Jordan Ayew.) So I accept that I might be a little bit naive and occasionally slightly delusional but I don't think our squad is beyond hope and I think there's a lot to work with there for the right coach. We've all seen Jamie Vardy, James Justin, Wilfred Ndidi and Ricardo Pereira win the FA cup and muster back-to-back 5th place finishes. We know they have the potential to play at that level. Caleb Okali looks quite a bright prospect as do both Facundo and Bilal, Harry Winks is an exceptional footballer that would have been right at home in a top-six challenging Rodgers side and Mads Hermansen is destined for much bigger things than Leicester City. Even looking at the likes of Faes, Vestergaard, Daka, Coady, Kristiansen, Mavididi and Skipp you've got players here who have played in and won plenty of games in the Premier League or Europe's top 5 equivelants, in UEFA continental competitions and, in some cases, playing for their country. I think the squad lacks depths in some key areas but even with the injuries I think we're able to put out an 11 that I'd be confident would be beating any side currently in the bottom half if Enzo was still here. But almost every player on the planet is going to look shit if the team around him isn't a team. We are an abject mess, there's no plan, there's no structure, there's no tactics. A guy with next to no management experience just threw a change of formation together today and sent a bunch of demoralised and despirited young men out on to a football pitch with minimal instructions to play one of THE most settled and well coached teams in the league. What did anyone think was going to happen? Individuals look like better players when the team around them is playing, at very least, as the sum of its parts if not more so. Midfielders look shit when the passing options aren't there, forwards look shit when nobody creates chances for them, defenders look shit when they're alone and isolated with no support and a chaotic mess of a defensive shape and EVERYONE makes more brain-fart mistakes when they're scared, under pressure and lacking confidence. I don't feel like we can particularly write off most of the players in the squad right now when a lot of this team has only played together in the Premier League under Cooper. Anyone suggesting that last year we looked poor is a moron, we absolutely smashed the league despite almost every team parking the bus and making life hard. We won probably the most competitive Championship season is recent memory and we did it with an absurd amount of points and goals. There's loads of potential in this side to come together, put in a good run and stay up. How many people were on here in 14/15 when we were rock bottom saying things like "I'm sorry, the players just aren't good enough" and suggesting the likes of Danny Simpson, Marc Albrighton and even Wes Morgan weren't cut out for the Premier League? I doubt any of you moaning bastards lurking are honest enough to put your hands up and admit that was you. Yeah, sure, we could probably use with an injection of quality in January if we want to give ourselves a better chance but the biggest thing the squad needs right now is just an injection of spirit and self belief because it'd have an enormous impact on how they played, individually and collectively.

Don't be ridiculous, if the club don't confirm it within five minutes of Percy posting we all know it's because Ruud met Rudkin and decided the worst run club in German history were a better bet.

Can we actually just take a moment to acknowledge how ****ing insane it is that one of the most successful and decorated managers in history rocked up at ****ing Everton. And not in his retirement but before he won another two Champions Leagues. And they were still shit.

Oh dear.

Some for the "Didn't Start In 92" crowd. Kenny Dalglish, six league titles with Liverpool as a player and three as a manager. George Graham won it with Arsenal as a player and manager. Howard Kendall won it with Everton as a player and manager. Maybe the trick is to do it with the same club and then you count. Looking forward to Jamie Vardy leading us to the 2034 Premier League title.

Pep six league titles, two domestic cups and two European trophies including the European Cup (now Champions League.) Ruud five league titles, albeit two were in the Netherlands. One cup, no European honours.

Craig Bellamy

I assume this has been mentioned more than once but the penny has only just dropped that he played with Enzo at Malaga.

This is by far my biggest concern about RVN. Passive mid blocks being happy to let the opposition pass around you. Literally my least favourite thing to watch.