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Holly I didn't reply to you?

Yes but the facilities are a world away from Belvoir Drive, I remember seeing Yakabu when we signed him on loan stretching in what looked like a PE hall you’d get in a secondary school. Now they’ve got over 9 pitches with indoor facilities that are immense. you may think the coaching is bad but we’ve produced a decent amount of footballers for the size of the club and area, things can always be better. so what is it? Bad coaching or bad facilities? Or both? Or neither now? This just takes us to a whole new level.

I wonder if this new training ground is starting to pay off

There is no doubt in my head he looks good enough for a spot on the bench in a cup game. He looks very very special. The club should do everything they can to make him feel valued whether or not that results in the bigger teams poaching him. Can’t just give in and accept it but show him there is a path way early on and he might just stay. those clips of him against burton I think it is shows him to be arguably one of our best ever talents, a 15 year old against many professional players and he stands out, it’s incredibly to see

arise Sir Danny, get him a statue

did we get relegated on purpose?

remember guys (and ladies) if you shag someone else during the break, its not cheating

no points deductions at all.

am I interpreting this correctly...... relegation saved us?!

at the moment I wish I was a postman! we are going to small claims court. we've got to gather information, dates, events etc a lot she has got wrong btw. essentially have to prove he isn't an employee of us. (which he never was, just someone we recommended but they could've always got another fitter) and that the contract is between them two in terms of the fitting of the product and sub floor prep.

I’m very happy to see you guys doing well this season so far. I still don’t get our relationship one bit

Thank you all for your words. I respect it’s a difficult situation. What I wanted to come to a better conclusion

Depends how this case goes! 🤣

Thank you. This is basically our thoughts at the moment. It’s very confusing as you get some people saying we could still be liable but a lot saying not. in terms of this. There is a fitting guarantee of a year from fitters in general. Obviously this isn’t the shops guarantee but directly related to the sub. She firstly acknowledged a plank lifting at the back door 3 years after the fitting. moduleo (It’s click lvt) I believe did have a guarantee at the time. We however have been advised due to the subfloor preparation from the fitter an independent inspector is 100% going to rule it a fitting fault rather than the product.

Right but did you yourselves pay the subcontractors or did the customer?

Ultimately I think we’ve got more than enough to get us out this scenario but I really suppose just wanted to know if anyone has gone through anything similar?

I believe the law is actually 5 years but I may be interpreting it wrong. It’s a rare scenario. If we have to say re-stretch a carpet even if it’s been down 10 years we will do it out of good will. the problem is. A fitter we gave a price for to do the job hasn’t done it correctly, subfloor prep incorrect, thought leading to product failure. They obviously have had other side things done between them as well and obviously paid him separately. We advised them to obviously take it up with him but they are insistent on attacking us

We obviously did try to come to a middle ground. We recommend the fitter but in no way do we say they must use him. We didnt pay him any sort of money for his services it always came from the customer. we appreciate if a problem occurs it’s us that recommended them but we can’t be responsible for someone’s work when we weren’t ultimately there, were told repeatedly how good the work was initially four years ago, they paid for and arranged separate work such as the skirting (thus entering a contract between them). was the fitter an employ of the shop or separate?

It’s been 4 years since.

It’s a mixture of both. But technically if the floor is at fault the company we buy it from would be responsible but if they inspect the floor they have told us they will likely just say it’s a fitting fault

Multiple problems. He ended up not wanting to work due to a problem with his son he had working for him and not paying particularly well. (Thus their relationship broke down eventually)

we offered to sort out the subfloor issues (free labour and pay for materials), replace the product (at cost) which is a mix of faulty and installation error and fit the new product for free. but she has ultimately rejected it. we have been advised that is in fact too generous and shouldn't have offered anything at all but its hard to trust that from people and ulimately the threat of court is scary.

there is quotes for the work that had been undertook. but ultimately saying to pay the fitter directly for his fitting and not us. problem is we don't know what he was or how he was paid as he carried out other work they agreed between themselves (fitting the skirting) therefore I think means they made a contract between themselves? we advised it could be a mix between product and fitting fault, but never have took liability. everything is well documented. including the customer being thrilled with our the service (the shop that has supplied the product) and were "over the moon" with the recommended fitters work. the cost is reasonably high, we have had 3 different bodies including the citizens advice etc who have said she should be dealing with the fitter and not us but I just wanted to make sure I'm not missing a trick here as we've been threatened with court. I'm not sure if shes bluffing or has something up her sleeve. sorry I understand this may be hard to understand over messages!

I'm not saying he'll be a top defender but he could stay at a decent level if he just cut the crap out. or he could see himself back in the championship.

hi, I'll try simplify this the best I can we sold flooring to a customer and recommended a fitter who we'd recommend to all, we however don't recommend him anymore. the flooring after 3 years begins to have faults. again we (the shop) didn't fit it but the recommended fitter we have recommended for many jobs. We priced the work but he ultimately got paid separately and we're not sure if he was paid by cash/card etc or how much (he carried out jobs like fitting the skirting which isn't something we priced). what I want to work out is through the eyes of the law are we responsible for the work of himself or would it be seen as himself? (again he isnt employed by our company). we have rang and emails citizens advice etc and it seems to key element of this is he's been paid directly by the customer, we think in cash; which means we aren't liable, is this correct? I can't find anything about this scenario on the internet.