Dahnsouff

Show some acknowledgement of free speech and lock this please. Either that or post the hymn sheet at the top. Or even more controversially, reopen the Cooper In thread. (And I want him out) Disgusting behaviour.

Because that’s a hindsight conclusion, seems unlikely we would need to appoint to Cooper if we were certain we would pass FFP, so I guess we didn’t know this? Therefore the job was in flux, which would reduce candidates. Just a guess, but makes sense too me at least! Or, the (more horrifying) conclusion is that we spread such a small net (Cooper, Potter, basically anyone who has EPL experience and their name ends in -er) that we restricted ourselves beyond reason. Fabregas I know little about as a manager, realise Enzo won stuff with the u-21’s, what has Cesc done?

So Forest board sacked Cooper to go for better, and we employed him. Yup, sounds like Coopers fault. edit I do realise that’s not really the point, but these threads always seem to badly apportion blame.

When your €30m player does that, you must be so chuffed.

Watching MOTD and the Villa / Bournemouth game. Iraola does seem to have Bournemouth very well coached.

Broadly agree. I think yesterday was a very strange game, as it was a system that worked well last season ((under our high level coach), so it was with some trepidation (and excitement) that the line up was viewed. Some of these players never played under Enzo, so could Cooper hope to instill the required tactical nous that Enzo did? First half was decent as it had potential and hope (We need to be honest and yes we might not like it, and recent history says otherwise, but Forest have now moved past us for now) The individual errors are largely on the players as they occurred in these “moments”, using your term, but in the defensive fragility sense, as none of the Facundo, JJ or Wout brain farts were coaching failures, they were just personal cock ups. Then the second half and Nuno changed, and we seemed unable too, that’s 100% on Cooper, as he got utterly bested by Nuno. This point more than any other is where we need better and I am not convinced Cooper has the capacity to do so. Would changing manager guarantee better? No of course not, could it? Yes.

It’s both though isn’t it? We are not a poor team, not as poor as some suggest, but we are also not as good as some make out. Plenty of poor performances yesterday, and I am very undecided if he was right to change to the “Enzo” system. I hope he sticks with it, even if I am not convinced Cooper can coach Enzo system to the new players. Also will admit I thought Ricardo was (understandably) poor, but on review it was an unreasonable conclusion.

I meant to the board, but our direction of travel is currently different. Currently. Only currently. Fail to get anything t Ipswich and it looks quite different.

Sorry, meant to the board!!

Think we should commit to three at the back

Yes and generally you are best served by treating the cause and not the symptom.

Anger should be at the club, not Cooper.

Our defence has been terrible all season, and forest's are is excellent. Nuno has got his priorities right.

Strange game. First half was ok, some rustiness on show, both from players and the tactics. Second half the wheels fell off and played like we were wearing clogs, both physically and mentally.

All irrelevant. Look at the table. No chance he gets the boot.

I hear Cooper says the same about fans.

When you start players who have previously made a difference when subbed on They then cannot come on and make a difference later. Perhaps they are better against tired players? Simples.

Nuno coped, Cooper didn’t. No Fatawu or whoever to step up second half, low quality performances. Disappointing.

Are you seriously thinking it’s the same when Fatawu starts then? Come on this is really not a difficult concept to grasp.

A positively premature ejaculation of a team selection.

The line up that allowed us bring game changing subs on, that one.

It’s our nearest rival, but points lost to Forest won’t define relegation. If we do not get at least a draw at Ipswich, yeah then it’s open season.

Why change it Steve?

It’s the managers fault. Of course it is. But the plaudits at the tactical change at the start was ridiculous, off the chart, and it was always going to be risky, but nothing but praise. So we have zero culpability? In judgement, not in picking the tactics.very disingenuous.

They are in much better position than us, it’s shit but true.