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We'd all be more gutted if we'd missed out on an FA Cup because of a last minute Chilwell goal but got in the Champions League.

In reality there were no excuses for not doing both. Rodgers successfully spun it like he does everything though. We were little Leicester with no history when it suited his narrative. 

Felt like I'd read the whole book after reading that title 

10 hours ago, MattFox said:

Weird how he doesn’t mention how Aiyawatt saved him like he’s claimed 

The myth of the perfect owners who gave us a "miracle" is evaporating with every decline we have. 

I wonder how long before former players start saying more of what they really think about the club now their events are being cancelled because fans are so disillusioned with any Leicester.

When things are going great and they're showering you with gifts it's very easy to say they're the best thing ever.  

Starting to wonder if Willy Caballero might be interested. Might explain Enzo and him being at the Norwich game. 

9 minutes ago, RoboFox said:

Didn't someone come out recently and say that Rowett was aware before the game and furious? 

 

It might've been Rob Tanner on a podcast but I can't recall. 

Yeah I think one of them pieces Percy was dying to release mentioned it. 

Rowett also said Leicester have gone with an "extremely ambitious appointment" when he thought he'd missed out on it.

Surely Enzo wasn't actually about to come back for a few months. Almost like he was thinking about it and then got told how stupid it would be so offered a scout report instead. 

Genuinely wouldn't surprise me if Rudkin begged him to watch a match for advice because he's so clueless as to what's going wrong. 

I'd love to know what happened with Enzo. Why was him and his staff watching that Norwich game?

12 hours ago, Foxin_Mad said:

12:30 kick offs are the absolute pits. Tv companies should have to pay the fans for each time a game is moved. 

Go out Friday night, stay in strip club and casinos. Walk into Spoons. Match ready by 12.30. What's the issue?

21 minutes ago, DoveValleyFox said:

Imagine there being a TV series on the Leicester City story from 2007 through to 2026.

It would run for about 10 seasons with so many cliffhangers that it would feel like a fictional story, with tv Baftas and primetime Emmy nominations all over the place.

It's funny because I remember thinking how underwhelming our 125th Anniversary DVD was. Ex players almost mocking how little there was to talk about at times.

The 150th should be a bit better. 

We rightly slate Rudkin but it sounds like even he is left in the dark as to when Top will make these kind of decisions. 

He's only ever acted when he's been in the country too. Which of course, isn't even that often. 

I could write essays on how bad this is. If someone told me this was deliberate sabotage id completely believe it at this point. 

That bit where he asks for a beer is so staged 😂 Least his acting has improved a bit since "oh hello there"

I'll let him off though 

2 hours ago, Les-TA-Jon said:

The club had just been disastrously relegated. Morale was in the toilet. Had lost a lot of players. Terrible preseason, disrupted by stupid trip to South East Asia.

 

14 wins out of opening 15 games. 

 

W19 D1 L3 in the first half of the season. 

 

Also think the 'near collapse' is a bit overstated on this forum:

 

W12 D3 L8 in the second half. 

 

It's a weird stick that people use to beat him with anyway - 'we nearly didn't win the title you know' ...OK, but we did, so...?

You're spot on to point out what a disgrace that pre season was and I pointed out what a great job Enzo did of getting players to buy not only into his philosophy but him as a person/coach. 

That doesn't excuse that he didn't have a plan B and that was what single handedly cost us in that second half of the season. I don't compare it to what comes after because we have never had a squad as good as he had that season and the managers have all been extremely poor. Just having worse come after you doesn't make you better.

That squad should have passed 100 points quite easily and broken the record. I understand some want to say oh but look how shit we were when he left. But again, there hasn't been anything like the respect for the coaches that followed and that's one thing I do rate Enzo for doing. 

I don't even get why they went for Sousa as a big name. Okay he won major trophies as a player but he was just a former Swansea manager and hardly a household name. 

Sven I understand but the obsession with Sousa because of the apparent appeal of his name is a bit weird.

Why am I half expecting them to tell people they've over sold and they can't have their season ticket 

5 hours ago, Fox92 said:

I get bored of seeing comments like this. If teams aren't where people expect them to be, and other teams overachieve, people just say "the league is poor". Not just Championship either but every league. We need more teams overachieving, in every league, so we don't just have leagues as expected prior to the season starting. Still annoys me when neutrals refer to our Premier League win as "poor league". When did all this even start.

 

Like I said at the top of the thread, Hull had a transfer embargo and an "unproven" new manager. They weren't expected to be anywhere near top 6 but fair play to them they've had a great season.

It annoys me most with our title winning season when people say this.

You'd never hear anyone say it about some of the titles Man United won despite some of them being a much better example of a poor league. 

15 minutes ago, CL Fox said:

Enzo's head went in Jan after he didn't get the players in. He could only play one way with no plan b. He should have played Coady more as his record was better with him in it.

 

I dont think any of that is untrue but it wasn't exactly glowing in reference.

Yeah it's hard to disagree with any of that but just shows what he's like as a person. 

Lot of deflection from the players too. I feel like in years to come this current lot will all tell us how it was the hierarchy's fault. Of course they take a massive part of the blame but I've never seen players down tools like this season. 

25 minutes ago, TheGoldenGod said:

It doesn't work like that mate, its not about how much you spend, its about how you spend it. Chelsea's approach is scattergun. Buy any world prospect and throw them on an 8 year deal. Their recruitment since BlueCo have come in has been about 80% misses. Enzo had navigated that quite well and is clearly strong on his decision making with the "bomb squad" he exiled early on. I'm a bit bored of having to defend what he did for us as well tbh...look at where we are now

Things are more nuanced than look where we are now so he must have been great. Do you rate Cooper, Ruud or Marti? 

I'm not knocking the fact he got us up but I don't just overlook the massive issues that we still had under him with a squad that absolutely should have won the league anyway. 

The jury is out on him for me. If he does well at Man City or whatever then fairplay. 

4 minutes ago, TheGoldenGod said:

I hear what you're saying, at times it was frustrating....but we won. Chelsea the same. You can look at the competitions but can only win what you're in! They did batter PSG in the CWC. I look at Chelsea's dodgy yank owners and he clearly didn't like the parameters he had to work in, and saw it coming for us too!

It was embarrassing how much he had at his disposal that season though and he actually had players turning on him towards the end. In comparison to what's followed he obviously looks great. 

He's benefitted by being replaced by awful managers at both clubs. I don't think 4th at Chelsea is anything amazing considering what they have available. Same as when I hear how Man United are constantly in transition. The amounts they spend should mean a title challenge every season. 

9 minutes ago, TheGoldenGod said:

I struggle to criticise a manager that has delivers such a successful philosophy so clearly to a group of players, both at Leicester and now Chelsea to the point everyone is ALL IN. That's what everyone dreams of...a gaffer everyone can get behind regardless of what people think about the style itself. Proves he knows what he's talking about. Not a surprise at all that since he left both clubs, they've gone to the dogs!

The way they bought in to what he did because he clearly had their respect was the best thing about him. But that squad did what it should have. Obviously we have had awful managers since and I'm not knocking that because we've proved it's easy to **** it up.

But he went rewrite a lot of that season because we won it in the end. The team were found out in the end and teams were beating us. We had relegation form for the last part of the season and it was only when we ditched that style that we got results to get us over the line. 

Again at Chelsea, they appointed Rosenoir after which is a joke. He was near the sack for a while until a strong end to the season at Chelsea. The fans didn't like the style at all.

1 hour ago, CL Fox said:

Coady was slagging Enzo off to anyone that would listen whilst he was doing comms at the euros. Bloke is an absolute gobshite.

What was he saying?

How does Coady manage to say so many words and still say nothing? It's quite a skill he's got. 

I think reading between the lines it's quite obvious there was almost too much of a buy in to Enzo. I have said a lot about how I didn't like his style of play and some of his decisions and the fact we just employed worse managers and have done abysmal since doesn't vindicate him any more. But no one can deny how he got everyone on side and how vital that was. Similar to how Rodgers was respected so much more than Puel. It was exactly what was needed at the time.

But you can't have players that are so invested in one manager and not follow it up with a similar appointment. I don't think Enzo would have kept us up, but what unravelled has been the worst 2 years in our history. 

16 minutes ago, Pliskin said:

I wasn’t, I was referencing the hiring of NP under KP, and he and his team building the foundations for us to then properly build for the future. The previous NP stint doesn’t count for KP, but what it does do it just shows their methods of thinking…… I wouldn’t put it past them hiring Nigel again. 

He wouldn't work for Top or Rudkin again I don't think. 

It was Top who sacked him before Vichai overruled him wasn't it? A few users on here who have spoke to Nigel have said he doesn't think much of Rudkin. 

1 hour ago, Les-TA-Jon said:

Pretty sure they knew they were going to sack him. They just waited to see which financial year could stomach the cost of doing so. 

Agreed but still not excuse in how long we waited to appoint Marti. 

That Percy article mentions how the players thought it shown just how poor the club is run. All this stuff plays it's part in them not buying in and what happened.

Not excusing the players because it's an absolute disgrace how much they downed tools but it's so important to get your house in order and have everyone on the same page.