Blue.Fox84

What the **** is he playing at there!?

However much I agree, I still believe Vichai played a huge part. He’s helped build the infrastructure of the club back, treated every player as if they were family (which has always been Leicester’s identity) and without his financial backing we wouldn’t of been able to compete - granted we’ve won the league with the ‘cheapest’ of teams but we still had players on wages we’d of never had been able to afford and broke transfer records. But as always, football isn’t a simple business and it does take bringing in the right management/back room staff etc who are capable of building something special too I think where people can’t differentiate is, we’ve had a completely different approach from King Power since Top took the reins. The club has slowly been rotting internally to the point it is in now, there is no relationship between ownership and fans, players don’t seem to be happy here or have any relationship with Top and we’ve gone from being ran very well to having no real direction/responsibility. Any fans who have followed things closely have been raising concerns about where the club has been heading for the past 4-5 years, however there is a lot that think we’ll either all of a sudden become the envy of the world again or believe that KP has an unlimited amount of time due to recent success/Vichai passing. We are too busy living in the past and fearful of believing that it’s now impossible to have ambition to lose the tag of ‘little old Leicester’. Media spoon-fed everyone that the Premier League is too big of a step for any promoted sides now, look how much everyone accepted getting relegated with a lot just believing we’ll just walk the championship this season. I think it’s going to take a few years in the championship and to see some players like Fatawu, Monga and Ricardo to have left for the alarm bells to start ringing for some before they start questioning how far the club has fell. Unfortunately it could be too late by then with too much damage caused, a lot of fans want action now/last few seasons whilst we were still a club held in high regards.

Football ideologies are like trends but it also depends on what you have available and how well you can deliver it too Arguably we were the best at being a low black counter attacking team but we also had players that adapted to that style too. It took a little while to perfect, a lot of those players were apart of a very attacking team in the championship but sitting in and hurting teams with energy going forward is what won us the league. We were also underdogs going into that season so that style suited us, we weren’t blessed with speed in behind with Huth and Morgan but teams wanted to attack us which allowed us to play to our strengths. I really like the concept Brentford are doing, they are looking to play out by inviting pressure and then hitting in the top line and playing off that taking the risk leaving attacking players higher up. I think part of our problem is we have a midfield who get overran and we’re poor at defending. Being more direct could open up the game but I think what we’ve found is when we don’t have the ball we look vulnerable and that starts with how poor Faes and Vesty are at defending. We can’t afford to lose the ball and teams are happy to sit a little deeper against us doubling up on players like Fatawu knowing they can hurt us in numbers on a break

Realistically where do people expect us to be based on all the deadwood and toxicity around the club for us to be? Cooper and RvN was bad appointments but I’m willing to give Marti time The club is a mess at the very top, which unfortunately things don’t seem to be getting better there. We have a squad of players who either don’t care or not good enough with the odd few who are worthy of putting on the shirt. He has shown a desire to be here, he is trying to build a relationship with the fans and ultimately trying to work with what he’s got whilst having a potential points deduction hanging over our heads. The bloke is unfortunately stuck between a rock and a hard place with what he has got available, he’s barely had any pre season and whilst some of the football and results have been frustrating, he has been picking up some points. Theres a lot more I would change within the club before looking at the manager, we need a bit of stability and somebody who actually wants to be here. The position the club is in I don’t think we’ll be getting much better in that him but I think we could certainly be pulling in a lot worse

Tactically it only works having Daka as a 9 to stretch the game if the opposition have a higher line/more open play. Unfortunately other than running (which he’s been outran multiple amount of times) he’s offered us nothing. He’s a CB’s dream to play against, he can’t look after the ball and gets out muscled. Maybe I’m being a bit more old fashioned but atleast give the CB’s a problem with some physicality up there if anything We have speed and skill out wide, that seems to be where we want to focus out attacks. If we want to be stretching the game that is where we need to be focusing hitting the flanks for them to run in behind if Daka’s all round play isn’t there and we don’t have a CF. Ayew can involve other players and be a target to hit which is atleast an outlet for us. Frustrating, yes and certainly not the answer but definitely the best option we currently have. Without going back and checking, I’m sure we’ve struggled for goals more with Daka in the side and he’s offered us nothing in return with goals himself directly which is a massively problem if you want to be a first choice CF Were basically debating who is the least shit out the 2 🤣 but I just feel Ayew atleast gives us something to play off, finding an alternative option for stretching the game is MC’s problem to find a solution too

Not saying we have good options, it’s just he’s the best we have. What an earth do you think Daka offers as a player individually or towards the team? You say his pace on the last man but I’m watching him lose races, gets out muscled by every defender he’s come across and that’s even if your lucky enough to see him stay on his feet. All well and good stretching the game but when your hitting in behind and losing it every time for either the opposition to either regain possession or out for goal kicks it’s not worth him being there. We ultimately play 343 in possession with x2 10’s. A CF dropping deep with rotation of runners from the 10’s is effective for the team. As with the goal then, atleast you can hit the 9 who can pin his CB to play off too. You’re not going to get pace in behind with him but 1. The wingers are fast enough to give that outlet 2. Majority of the teams sit deeper against us. Ayew gives the team alot more than Daka. Honestly after about 5 years of Daka and from what has been seen of him this season without the tag of being in Vardys shadow, he’s failed miserably and offered the team nothing.

Our best CF option to how we want to play. How people think Daka is the answer is beyond me, atleast Ayew can hold the ball up, play back to goal and be physical to allow the x2 10’s to play into/beyond Daka doesn’t even look fast anymore 🤣

They also have players running through brick walls for each other and playing for either free or next to nothing. We have a board who is running the club into the ground and overpaid players who don’t want to be here and show the supporters little respect/appreciation. Massive difference between the 2 Sheff Weds are in a similar position to us back in the early 00’s, club was ****3d but the players gave everything so the fans got behind them *edit - autocorrect fans

People can’t be going for him already surely!? 🤣 Admittedly I never watched the game tonight but most who played are what majority would select on here and was asking for on Sunday. This team has lost all identity of what we were built on 10 years ago, things won’t get better until a majority of this lot are gone He has had a month less than every other team to work with the players, very likely he has very little room to sign any players until (and if) more players can be moved on and has players in there who’s egos don’t match their ability So far I’ve seen a manager looking to have a style of play and was capable of making decisions to change the outcome of the game. That’s better than the last 2 managers we’ve had here.

He isn’t the only player responsible for us getting relegated but he’s also isn’t the only player that’s received criticism from the fans. Boo’ing him is soft compared to some places where he can end up playing 🤣 Typical player that ego doesn’t match his ability.

He ain’t the first player to be boo’d by his own fans and won’t be the last Don’t mind players showing passion but definitely came across as arrogance and out of touch The club is a mess, we’ve just been relegated again with a lot of players responsible for it playing yesterday. You’ve got a new manager who looks to be trying to build a connection with the fans and you’ve got a CB who has been apart of 2 relegations cupping his ears and shushing the fans, sums a lot of our problems up.

Seems invested in the club/fans and has successfully been able to change the game with game management. Better than the sh!t we’ve had since Enzo, hope he does well and the club actually support him properly

Unfortunately for Marti, he’s coming into a club with a lot of negativity surrounding it. Yes it might be a fresh start for him and fans will want to see him do well but whilst their is alot of questions unanswered from the top and overpaid/self entitled players who continue to be here who have been responsible for 2 relegations, fans are going to continue to voice their feelings. Just because it’s the start of a new season it doesn’t mean that everyone should just forget and move on

Pressing? Watch them go long ball and allow us time to play around the back. We need goals, Daka ain’t giving you that 🤣

We need someone who can control the game. Dropping Ayew in as a 10 takes Bilal out, seems pointless just to bring on a CF who can’t score and pace will be not needed

Apart from pace, what does Daka offer? The longer this game goes on the deeper Sheff Weds are going to drop. Ayew will be the better option, atleast he can hold up and has better quality in the 18 yard box

Is anyone actually surprised!? 🤣 Skipp, Soumare, Vesty and Justin all in the starting line up Carry on and hope for the best 🙃

I miss this ground, place was special as a kid!

Very true! Rudkin has come through the club and do believe he wants the best for the club - whether he’s the right man for the job is one thing but ultimately I think there is multiple people who are at fault in all of this. Unfortunately for him, like how it can be for a first team manager, if the team isn’t performing someone gets put on the chopping board whether it’s directly their fault or not. I think a lot of fans just want to see that there’s been some sort of action/change taken and with his name and position probably most well-known, he either needs to force bigger decisions within the club to be seen to be making an impact or unfortunately be the man that gets pushed over-board

I respect the loyalty and optimism but in all honesty from what we have experienced these past 2-3 years do you see or believe in a change for the good under the current regime? I think every Leicester fan can accept they won’t win every game, cup or even retain the best players for forever but we do want to feel a connection with the club, have the club well-ran, fans treated with loyalty and respect, a club with an identity and players (preferably local) who want to fight for the badge. Many of us have endured the lows of administration etc but if I’m completely honest, I’ve never felt so disconnected from the club as I have right now

Come here for a lucrative pay day and stinks of a club with no guidance or direction. The ignorance and incompetence from the top is astonishing, how we have gone from being one of the most respected and envied teams to a complete laughing stock is painful Every club has its flaws but I can’t think of many teams who have been as poorly managed as ourselves

This is one of the biggest things for me, as time as gone on Rodgers has slowly started to look like the Saint in all of this when ultimately a lot of his failings was the start to it all I think as a club we gambled big hoping it would pay off without realising the infrastructure was falling apart within - staff at the top have left who was apart of build and also members behind the scenes have gone from analysis, groundsman etc The 5th place finishes was a failure in my opinion especially considering the position we were in during the season and the gamble we had took - we had done well with the sales of Mahrez and Maguire but when we’ve spent consecutive transfer windows signing players at £20-30m it’s clear what the ambition was to achieve Falling to act quicker with Rodgers once he clearly lost interest in the job and started to create his excuses was a failure - begrudgingly pay the reported £5m compo and retain PL status. Failing to act on the £5m has ultimately cost the club millions, we’ve lost PL money, sold players at reduced fees, overpaid on wages for players we can’t get rid of which continues to mount FFP charges with possible points deductions now and have also seen £100’s of millions of talent walk away from the club for free as there is clearly no longer any form of direction or project here for a player to be interested to be apart We have one of the best training ground facilities in the country, only Leicester can build something that could arguably be too big and fail to build any form of project when in such a strong position to attract players - other clubs are catching up and Seagrave will be no more attractive that majority of the league soon too so our only real ‘selling point’ will quickly become a huge financial risk that resulted in no advantage to the club.

Possibly later down the line whilst he was here but I’m pretty sure he lived in Leicester and possibly off of London Road in the early days. We were doing well as a club so nobody seen much of an issue to these things aswell as a group of players living Cheshire way

Couldn’t really understand the need to go with a back 5 when Forest were effectively playing with 10 men for the last 10 minutes but I’ll take the draw to see Forest rattled 🤣

Collectively it’s poor all over and just highlights how bad we are. We’re discussing a lot of things tactically but when you strip it back it’s down to communication and work rate. A lot of these players have been playing together for 2-3 seasons in this formation and for the fact we struggle to have any form of organisation and work rate is an absolute sh!tshow, they look like a bunch of players who have just been thrown together. Can’t wait to see these players and RvN gone. If the board struggle to recognise all of this then they can go too because this isn’t the Leicester City I recognise or love