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Calm down. Firstly, i've never denied we need signings, just pointed out that we, erm, have actually made some and aren't really performing that badly in the market, all things considered. I certainly haven't accused anyone let alone everyone of being 'raving disillusioned loonies' - entitled, yes, sheep, yes, some other stuff, but not that - i just couldn't let such a false opinion, repeatedly stated, go by without comment. Thanks for sharing these predictions - but i have no interest in reading speculation of this kind and no idea what relevance it has to anything i've posted in this thread. Oh, and "Norwegian Tourist Fan" - ha ha - cause i'm the only fan on here who doesn't live in leicester. You know **** all about me or my connection to this club, so save you snide petty name-calling for someone you actually know the first thing about.

I'm sure there are many reasons to do so or not - my thought was entirely from the point of view of not wanting to strengthen a rival club. It feels like selling to us is likely to be more appealing to them.

This is also assuming that they'll want to sell him to a rival club.

The hypothetical element is that no one on earth can predict how a player will settle into their new team or what impact (good or bad) that will have on a team. No one knows - we can only conjecture. Regarding the striker situation - Nacho, for me was spent - he was ripe for replacement. The other 2 we've 'lost' are injured. And even if fit, clearly we're looking to add to them otherwise this thread wouldn't exist. What then do you expect the club to do - you can't sign players to cover short term injuries? I wouldn't have you down as the type of poster who has unreasonable expectations - but maybe we'll just have to deal with having ndidi/hamza/soumare as back ups this year - gasp! i know - shocking, but maybe we can't just go out and by superior players. FWIW, i expect us to play much deeper this year, in which case i agree with cooper, i'd put ndidi in the middle rather than ricardo.

Yes, but, as i said, most of that list are on it by virtue of the fact of having brought in 6 rather than 5. I'd argue that our FFP transfers weren't quite as cynical as the others, and also we only did one deal. As pointed out elsewhere - that southamnpton and ipswich have brought in more players than us, doesn't mean they've done better business than us - we shouldn't piss on our club just because other clubs have taken a different approach to recruitment. Besides, my point isn't that we've done better than everyone, it's that we have, despite what the OP suggested, done something - that we haven't done nothing and that more-or-less we aren't any worse than most of the league. If you step away from your hatred of the board to objectively look at our business this summer you'll see that it is fairly reasonable and in line with our position, that it stands out as neither remarkable or catastrophic.

Can't we? We managed to get Fatawu and Hermansen immediately after being relegated, with an untried manager and in the 2nd tier - or was that a different club that pulled that off? Not to mention getting players like winks and coady to drop down a league. We also have the best academy teams we've had in years - i think you underestimate what we've managed to get done.

I haven't said that. Southampton have brought in 13 players with only (jesus) Adam Lallana the only one with any PL experience, even downes and taylor have spent most of their careers in lower leagues - so there's really nothing to suggest they've strengthened. Whilst ipswich have gambled on some PL u21s who may or may not be able to step up to the top flight, whilst losing the keeper that pretty much got them promoted replacing him with a keeper with no PL experience. I fail to see how that business can be classed as 'strengthening'.

Unlike you and most posters here, i'll wait until i've seen the new players play before condemning them to the also-ran pile. And is our base really that much lower than these other clubs - we have stacks of PL experience, it's not like we're coming up with a first XI of PL virgins.

I suppose that depends on how you view KDH as a premier league player - this idea of strengthening/weakening is all hypothetical - my issue with these kinds of posts is that a) they're unproven conjecture and b) they seem motivated more in this fashion amongst our fans to be seen to hate the club and the board, this desperate need for something to moan about now we're no longer fun-winning leicester.

No not at all - i'm just saying that we are in a comparable situation to the majority of clubs, whilst some clubs have quieter windows than we have.

How do you know the impact of any of the signings of any of the other clubs? Just a casual glance would suggest at least everton and palace have lost better players than they've recruited.

That's not really the case though, or certainly it's a factor that's entirely impossible to measure. Would you rather us sign a player a week who is poor/unsuitable, or take our time to get the right players? We've spent the last few years listening to fans moaning about the quality of recruitment, and then every season we get the same fans complaining that things aren't happening quick enough or to a large enough degree.

We've brought in 5 players, only Villa, bournemouth, brighton, chelsea, everton, ipswich, newcastle, forest, southampton, west ham and wolves have brought in more (most of these are on 6) and everton, chelsea and forest are up there because of their FFP merry-go-round. And most of them have lost way more players than we have. It's like fans on here are so desperate to trash the club they've actually started to believe their own BS.

I've now come full circle to the point where i actually log in here just to laugh at 95% of the posters on here... The ignorance, entitlement, sheep-mentality and fickleness of our fanbase is so bad it's become comical.

To remind us that AI images are still crap.

Made a trip to the big city and picked up the first new LP i've bought in ages. Very happy with it. https://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/laetitia-sadier-rooting-for-love/

Final League Position:- 14th Date relegation certified:- not this year Date survival confirmed:- pretty late, our 'easy' run in will see us scoot from 'in danger' to 'comfortable' Top Scorer:- None of the current squad Goals scored in Premier League:- 50 Goals Conceded in Premier League:- 58 Team to give us the biggest whipping:- Man City Date (if any) Cooper gets sacked:- Nope Date (if any) Rudkin gets sacked:- Nope Our biggest win in Premier League:- Villa at home

I think the problem with the points deduction is that it's easy to get sucked into thinking that we'll be chasing it all season. But we have the second easiest start in the league, if we can capitalize on that, the points deduction could effectively be wiped out in no time at all. Last season, after 7 games, there were 7 teams who had only averaged a point a game - say we get docked 6 points and get 1.5 points per game in that period, we'd be on 4/5 points which would have been good enough to be in 16th place. After 10 games, assuming the same points per game, we'd still be just a point behind forest in 16th. 1.5 points per game isn't a huge ask - but certainly it's more in our own hands than people are inclined to believe - and with possible deductions lingering over other clubs, we might not be the only club making up ground. At the end of the day, we only need to do better than 3 other teams - and as big as the step up is from EFL to PL, there're still a number of bang average teams in the bottom half.

Also found this - not sure all if these names are still around.... (or if the likenesses (Other than Davie G) are nailed)

Back in the days of limited photoshooping skills....

Scaffolding by Lauren Elkin Stanley and the women by Kingsley Amis

I'm not that clued up but could probably hold my own at FT level, but i've stopped all fantasy league things as it just became too distracting doing the PL one.

It's one thing to do that against preston, an entirely different thing to do in the prem.

And i think we'll see that in most games - it's what we did against shrewsbury (admittedly with a very odd squad selection; for various reasons) - i think pre-season has led us into a false sense of what is to come, because both ausburg and palermo played with a very low block - but i wouldn't expect to see that approach against us very often in the PL - I don't think we'll have many games where we're going to be huffing about trying to break teams down - teams are likely to come at us. do we have the quality defensively to deal with that? - who knows - but i think we do have defenders who are more than capable of triggering counter attacks, and pace up front to take advantage of it - we just never really got to see much of that part of cooper's game plan in pre-season.

i think he's playing the system that is best for the players he has, a system close, but less limited, to the system they are used to be playing - naturally the squad is that way because that's how the club have recruited - as such, i'm not sure what else he could do. For sure we still need a few elements to click - people were melting down last summer before we got mav and fatawu in - so there's reason to believe that the recruitment team can repeat that success with the missing players this year. I think anybody trying to predict how we will play based on the pre-season is on a hiding to nothing, as we've yet to play an opponent who hasn't really sat deep - personally, i think more often than not we'll see performances closer to the shrewsbury game, where we'll have to defend for periods of the game but have more scope to counter - if this is the case, we could be in for something much more like under ranieri than people are expecting, and yes, i do think we have the squad to play like that.