Dan

That Lewandowski penalty is an utter disgrace. How can we have it so that he can do that in the run up yet the goalkeeper is penalised for what he did? Such boring manufactured 'entertainment'.

Relative to the ability of the squad we're the worst team in the tournament and I include France in that. What an absolutely golden opportunity having probably the best four sides on one half of the draw, that we're wasting on Gareth Southgate. Absolutely woeful. This is Euro 2016 all over again. I really do think anybody with a modicum of organisation can beat this England side.

It would be absolutely piss poor to go out to this Italy side. They're so ordinary. But you could completely see it.

To be fair, for all I think we're a soft touch I do think we have a breaking point. The super league was past the line for us. The line is admittedly way further down than it should be.

This myth about Scotland's support. Their anthem was great particularly in the last two games but heard very little during the games.

They're properly on the defensive aren't they. This response to the criticism thing is very Maddison tweet after Southampton. Can tell they've been sheltered from any criticism for so long when this is the response. Only one way this ends. Buckle in

Potentially going to try and do Standard Liege v KV Mechelen on the Friday night. Has anyone been there before and how easily sorted was it?

Called this pre-tournament. You don't need a worldy player - just somebody used to playing there and in familiar systems. Germany have done this with Mittelstadt. We should've called up Tyrick Mitchell. This is all very pre Southgate. Stupid pitfalls.

Why was a Swedish playing starting for Belgium?

These transfers just sum up again what a mess things actually are. Young players pawns in the game to avoid the stupid rules. If the rules incentivise clubs trading young players then the rules are wrong, as simple as that. Predictably though we will not be involved at all and will cost ourselves.

Glorious.

New ground for me. Said this year I wasn't going to do any unless I got a new ground.

I am firmly a believer that the technology is massively flawed but my god, these English officials really don't help the case. Totally fuelling the "it's the refs" argument - I think both are possible. PGMOL needs either a total overhaul or disbanding. Whatever it is we're doing isn't working. How can the Premier League with this much money and prestige have some of the worst referees in Europe? Only a matter of time until they start drafting some in from abroad.

I just want to think he's not a one trick pony. I think he'd admit himself that he wanted a bit better than that. I think if he tries to attack with speed and he isn't entirely wedded to one way in every game he will win people around here.

It's a myth, and the point about the media more so. Our media are far kinder than pretty much any of our counterparts. They definitely snapped yesterday though.

He's the luckiest manager in football. Even in this group he's lucked it through both of the other games ending in draws.

Pragmatism doesn't necessarily just mean 'defensive'. He simply has to improve on what he served up at Forest. I had real fears about Maresca's football in this league but if he produces the same here as he did at Forest in their PL days then we're going down for sure.

That Phillips quote sums him up. Just try and see the funny side in this exit. Probably better for England's longer term future if it's to someone like Austria as he probably doesn't survive it.

I know this is probably massive cope on my part but I do think he seems like the sort of personality that our fans will come to get behind in time. Still finding it hard to process he's ended up with us to be honest.

He's a left back in a 4 I think. Too many writing him off after that goal earlier - admittedly it was dreadful.

I think what's quite telling, is that plenty of people on here, Twitter etc... who are usually defensive are being critical themselves. I've not seen the pundits lose it like this over England since probably Iceland. The only ones who are peddling the usual bilge, worryingly for England, are the players and manager. Said pre tournament I thought we'd beat anybody from 5th or below and then lose to anybody else but that line is dropping no end. I think we're ripe to lose to someone like an Austria or a Turkey. Imbalanced, lethargic, clueless. Very badly coached team and Southgate must surely know in his own head now that he's got to go. He'll probably say as such when we're out. This is quite considerably the worst we've looked in a Southgate tournament. Two dreadful performances.

Favourites my arse. I might have to drop the "anyone decent beats England" to "anyone about 8th down beats England". We barely look better than Slovenia.

Southgate really is a coward.

The North Koreans would be ashamed of this propaganda

A symptom of the absolute joke of a hierarchy we have.