Dan

Co-owner Rudkin out.

Noted - Everton are the only badly run club in world football. Got it.

It's largely the same people on here white-knighting Teflon Jon and Top who were sneering at anybody who had any concerns with this deal as well. Some people have an inability to join dots and see the bigger picture, that's fine, just don't expect to be listened to.

Once again - this is being made too much about Sensi and less about the fact we've come out of the window objectively, unquestionably weaker than what we went in. If we pull the plug on Sensi and get a loanee in I think plenty would say fair enough even if it's not ideal. But we've thrown our eggs in this one basket, a deal we've known was pretty complicated (because of our own previous mismanagement by the same people) and ended up with those eggs splattered over our faces. We're three players down on when we went into the window, one of those a midfielder - not to mention the fact we've lost one of our starting midfielders for the majority of the rest of the season too. I've seen enough of these jokers. How they still get the benefit of any doubt on here is astonishing to me. We better hope we see this through. We've weakened our chances this window.

This isn't even really about Sensi himself, it's about the bigger picture. How is this situation anything other than shit for us? We are three players down on when we entered the window. This is factual information. This isn't ITK tweet speculation. This is concrete. Of those three players we have had one recalled (therefore surely freeing up whatever we were paying him), we have loaned one out (Iversen), and one has retired (Smithies). Thomas went back out on loan to another club. Sensi was in the country. This is a fact. We have had a month to get either this or an alternative done. This is a fact. So for all of these facts, whatever reason there was for him not signing, they are, at best case scenario, a result of being hamstrung by previous poor decisions made by the same regime. They are the common denominator. This has happened numerous times now. We are a badly run club. This is a fact a pretty confident opinion.

That's a shame, he was another fantastic signing made by us in the last 18 months.

we've lost Casadei and loaned out Iversen. You're telling me there was nothing there to get 'anything' in as an alternative? Not even a loanee? The usual King Power bootlickers will be out defending yet another shitshow of a window because the specific details aren't documented on SkySports. Your inability to draw the dots isn't my problem.

Not quite convinced he comes in the summer. I'd hardly be in a rush to come to us after this shambles.

More fool you if you thought the leopard had changed its spots. The same inept people. The same inept outcomes. They're the ones who will survive this while the good people will see this shitshow for what it is. Top and Rudkin out.

It's beyond poor now, it's nothing short of an embarrassment. I know everyone thinks they've got exceptional circumstances, but I really do think ours is uniquely bad these days for numerous factors that have been set out. The theories about how it's an old, tired support filling the ground have been strengthened signiicantly by the last 5 days. The atmosphere against Birmingham in a game where we were 'actually' shit for the first 45 minutes was probably the best all season where I was. Yet last night we serve up that dross.

I agree with your post, but my problem is the ground quite literally feels more negative this season than last. The whines yesterday - honestly, I can take or leave the style of play, but you would think we were 2 down. You only have to remember the way Blackburn obliterated us a year ago. My gripe is where the hell was this anger when it was needed?

Birmingham the best atmosphere at home this season, despite the first half being genuinely probably the worst we've played at home all season. Makes you think.

This club, and fanbase is completely broken.

The brutal reality is that after what we've witnessed in the last decade we cannot be just expected to reset expectations and pretend that we're excited by beating Swansea and Huddersfield. That is not a criticism of the manager, he should be respected for how well he and the team have turned things around, but it just simply isn't going to get the juices flowing and that isn't arrogance, it's the reality. It's the equivalent of Manchester City winning three straight champions leagues and the following season seeing how they react when they beat Lech Poznan in the Conference League. I think as well the speed of which we fell has placed 2022/23 as the outlier and that 2023/24 is capped by the fact we're in this league. It isn't like we had years of being rubbish in the Premier League and fell into this league gradually and painfully like Everton feel like they're doing. We have in very recent memory produced a consistently winning team at a higher level. I think the fans at our ground have been largely awful and even in spite of all of this they're just adding to the overall malaise. The loudest noise I heard from the east stand all night was a loud groan at KDH overrunning a ball. That isn't how it should be when you're winning this often. But I do understand 'sort of' where the malaise is from - it just isn't particularly exciting. It's wasted on us frankly. To be totally honest I did enjoy the style in 2013/14 a bit more though. I'm not saying that team was better but I did find the higher tempo easier to resonate with.

We're due a nice win here rather than the usual 2-2.

Wonder if Ipswich's family stand empties every night game after 80.

It's embarrassing. Nobody worth their salt would stick around on these grounds. They must have a right laugh at the state of our support.

Just keep prodding at them for the absolute embarrassment that it currently is. Actually force their hand to make changes to the layout etc... supplement the atmosphere rather than suppress it. What you're seeing play out here is years of atmosphere suppression mixed with being in a league we're clearly better than (hence it being boring). It's the perfect storm for the flattest imaginable atmosphere. The disconnect is still there at this club for a large part, although the difference this year is that the fans are at fault more than the team.

Honestly if Maresca forced the club to take drastic action to sort this shambles of a ground out he'd have pretty much unconditional support from me.

It really is broken beyond belief. You get shoots of good like the Birmingham game but the general level is absolutely appalling. I really do fear it's beyond repair. The only hope you can have is that some of the loudest grounds we've been to this season were Coventry and Middlesbrough and they used to be extremely dead as well. Though I don't think there's that same desire - we aren't a bad enough team.

Very routine. We could've scored more, they were terrible at the back.

Quite like the fact he's identified the lack of physicality - I did fear that he was overlooking this with the Sensi buy. That's good to hear.

Said at the time I didn't rate the Coady signing and we massively overpaid. Nelson is better than I thought however. Actually see a future for him here.

Yep. Think the whole "good test" rhetoric has died a bit here. Worst round we could've got the supposed test in. We have more to play for in a lower league than they do. Bournemouth are one of the worst sides we could've run into. I think the likelihood is they beat a similar side to Saturday quite resoundingly, sadly.

That isn't how I'd have profiled him at all are we talking about the same player here? The ex Benfica kid? For me he was like a poor mans Mahrez.