Dan

Why did James go off? We are stuck with these twats forever aren't we.

He's got to start with Carranza from Tuesday. How much more does he need to see?

Totally predictable type of game this is.

That ****ing defending. How long does Nelson get dropped for for that?

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I'm absolutely gobsmacked anyone thinks this isn't the best solution. Blackburn with about a 95%+ chance of a win just stolen.

All this ever was meant to be. Total racket.

They've done similar on the continent when things like this have happened. It's a bit nonsense that you'd make them travel all that way for 10 minutes but it's less unfair than this. I can't believe they've settled on this nonsense. Blackburn winning against 10 men with 10 left - they win that an absolute minimum of 95% of the time.

You just knew they'd settle on the completely wrong outcome. Play the last 10 minutes at 11 v 10. Perfect? No. Better than everything else by an absolute mile? Obviously yes.

Absolutely utterly scandalous.

Precisely - this no longer happens. The main reason you had that abomination in May.

Ominous really how bad Betis were, extremely fortunate to draw the game though you could argue Postecoglou got it wrong as well. If that's the level of competition then crikey. The Europa League has dropped off no end as a result of the new format. Forest aren't good but I'm not sure they'll need to be.

Stolarczyk Ricardo Faes Vestergaard Thomas Winks James Fatawu Ayew Mavididi Carranza Mavididi on thin ice. Red flag if Soumare starts or if Ayew starts up front - I don't know how many more games we need to waste on it.

As ever this place is overreacting to a very small minority and acting as if it's the majority.

59 points - less combined than 8 teams in the league got last season. Of those 59, 15 of them were against each other as well. You'll never see anything like it again. For one team to be that bad, maybe, but all three really is mad.

I'm glad it's happening because it makes those who tried to excuse it look silly and it also means it's not a completely closed shop either. The level of 17th was relatively high last year. We really did go down in one of the worst possible ever years.

Enzo Maresca's knack of being utterly unconvincing yet getting over the line really does seem to know no bounds.

Sums up the EFL that this is a priority over doing 3 up / 3 down from League Two / National League. 8th would be comfortably out of their depth in the Premier League yet extremely few teams who go up to League Two are relegated. The case for the latter is miles clear.

There'll never be a worse promoted / eventually relegated trio than 2024/25. Absolutely confident in that. We are without any shadow of a doubt the worst team to ever finish as high as 18th - barely believable we did. Sure I read somewhere that Leicester and Ipswich had the lowest points tallies of teams to finish 18th and 19th in the Premier League and Southampton obviously only beat Derby by 1. 40% of our points came against the other two while two of the wins were against already relegated sides which barely really count. Was a real freak and anomaly. It's why the whole revisionism around Cooper keeping us up is a load of rabble. Tottenham in 17th were probably nearer ability wise to Forest in 7th than they were to us, no exaggeration. I'm not surprised none of the three look convincing at Championship level as they are three awful teams. It's why I do think somebody a bit unexpected probably can do it this time around. Early days of course. Put it this way Burnley who are probably the poorest of the three are quite obviously better than Leicester of last year who by some miracle ended up the least shit of the three. I'm glad they're doing well - would've been real talk of structural change if there had been another trio of total rabble. Sunderland really putting all of those who excused it in their place.

Should be laughed out the room. Absolutely ridiculous idea - just designed to give us more quantity over quality which is the single most important reason for football's entertainment drop off. Imagine if the team who came 8th spawned it up to the Premier League.

Bottom 1 percentile for non-penalty xg. This paints exactly the picture I expected of Ayew - he's got his uses but the bloke just is not a striker. It's not even about bad finishing, he just hardly ever gets any chances and that is his main failing. Daka is a clown of a finisher, but Daka will at least get into the positions.

He's just a nothing player unfortunately.

Generally don't mind him but he's been out of form for ages now. I've been more in favour of Monga off the bench but I don't know how much longer we can tolerate these performances from him.

The bloke just isn't a striker. Start him behind Carranza next week. Start James and Winks behind them - like we should've done yesterday.

Forget winning the game then.