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I agree, and the act of the investigation will perhaps reveal more of the motivations of the actions. And so be it. Even from the short clips though that have been visible, some things could be sensibly presumed, perhaps? Speed of the attack - yes it happened quickly, no qualms about that. But the attack is stopped when he's down on the floor. As quickly as he's decided to kick and stamp on his head (and not any other part of his body for instance), he could have also quickly decided not to do that action). Unknown number of assailants - again, agreed that this is a contributing factor. However what I will say is that police clearly knew who to approach and speak to and no one else seemed to get involved barring the two men that started throwing fists around. Injuries to fellow officers - yeah this is shit that the cop got her nose broken and I hope the offender gets a lengthy sentence, but in no police force is it then suitable for one officer to take the law into their own hands and act vengefully in the way that he did. So I don't think this point holds as much weight as others. If there's killing threats made then that's different, but it still ends up taking me back to the point that he was Tasered and therefore incapacitated. It'd be interesting to know what the actual point, from a police perspective is, for the use of a Taser. Is it to nullify an offender and a threat to buy police time?
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Having watched the whole clip available, as in the extended footage, I'm still of the opinion that his use of force was not reasonable. There's no bias from me. I'm all for offenders getting their appropriate comeuppance, but kicking and stamping on the head is beyond the line for me. If the guy was charging at the officer, and was acting threatening in that moment, then fair play. But the main point for me is he had been Tasered and therefore that threat he initially was showing was significantly decreased. I'll condemn it quite strongly, and die on that hill to be fair! I appreciate that some will defend it and I will respect their opinion. I just can't seem to justify the officer's actions from my perspective.
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But 'all it takes' is part of the high level of training they have, surely? To act in the right way at the most intense of times, as opposed to acting with vengeful emotion, as it appears to have been done? I can't say for sure that's how he's acted and only he knows the thinking behind it, but that's how it's perceived to me.
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I'm not sure, on this point, where the law allows for the police to kick and stamp on someone's head. Happy to be corrected!!
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I don't disagree at all. I know emotions run high and decisions are made in the heat of the moment, within a split second. But I think it's fair to mention that these are highly-trained professionals, no doubt experienced in their role. All it takes is a moment of calm, perhaps also a split second, to not kick and stamp on someone's head when they're prone on the floor and not even looking at you, despite what's happened moments before.
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Where's VAR when you need it!
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Martinenghi wins it. So close.
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Reckon Qin wins it with Peaty 2nd.
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Aren't we all doing that? To an extent? I'm just putting across my viewpoint. Good job it's not an actual police drama though. I'd have thought these officers would be trained to keep their cool in high pressure environments... Controlled aggression, so to speak, and not letting your emotions get the better of you (ie not seeking revenge and acting like being above the law). But this is the UK so any other countries' policing is a moot point, with all due respect. See above for the keeping a cool head stuff. Thankfully these kinds of events and incidents are few and far between because I'd like to think the stark majority of police, armed or not, can act by keeping their aggression and emotion in check despite being verbally or physically abused for doing their job.
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Cricket (None Leicestershire County Cricket Club)
StanSP replied to leicsmac's topic in General Football and Sport
Imagine taking a wicket off this delivery -
Wow, last minute winner too. Just seen Brazil Women Leicester'd themselves too. 1-0 up going into stoppage time and they lose 2-1.
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Don't disagree that they viciously attacked the police officers. Not sure anyone actually is. The fact he had been 'temporarily incapacitated' by a Taser was the perfect opportunity to permanently restrain him in handcuffs and reduce all kind of threat. Nullify him, deal with the others as appropriate i.e. Arrest them too or disperse them away from the scene. The fact he had 2 Tasers being pointed at him (I think, after the initial Taser) meant he could have been incapacitated even further. You say he had to do whatever necessary to neutralise the threat. He already had done so. Therefore proving (?) that the kick and stamp were excessive, surely? As for not being shot to death, you're reaching there I think!
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Really not a fan of the American commentator on Eurosport. Here comes the SEM-EYE FINAL! 'what makes this really fun is that we have 16 swimmers trying to make the final 8!!!'. Yep, just like other races of the same type
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I switched over to the swimming thinking they'd comfortably lost Fair play for hauling the win back from the amount they were down.
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Marchand has absolutely hammered this.
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Can they appeal it? Nonetheless, the whole season now feels much more enjoyable to watch because or the McLaren and Mercedes added competitiveness. Hope they keep it up after the summer break.
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Premier League 24/25 Pre-season guff (misc talking points)
StanSP replied to davieG's topic in Leicester City Forum
Irrelevant because of their impending league demotion when they finally get fvcked over with their 115 charges. -
Cricket (None Leicestershire County Cricket Club)
StanSP replied to leicsmac's topic in General Football and Sport
Not even going to get to 150 lead at this rate. Whittle them all out for a lead under 100 and it's an easy coast to victory... -
Cricket (None Leicestershire County Cricket Club)
StanSP replied to leicsmac's topic in General Football and Sport
Getting into the tail just after lunch would be beneficial. -
Premier League 24/25 Pre-season guff (misc talking points)
StanSP replied to davieG's topic in Leicester City Forum
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They won't get away with it. Their actions don't absolve the police officer's actions. And the police officer's actions doesn't mean the offenders haven't done wrong themselves.
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Premier League 24/25 Pre-season guff (misc talking points)
StanSP replied to davieG's topic in Leicester City Forum
We should get extra points for low CO2 emissions (relatively). All the top half get points deductions. -
Seems like lazy journalism given we've gone for players like Soule, Nelson, Doak. Doubt there's anything in it.
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MEDICAL TOMORROW!!! for Roma.
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Police officers should be given a medal
