smudgerfox

Vesty seems to have been a first choice …no?

I wouldn’t describe Winks as a squad player who isn’t playing right now. Candidates are Ward, Coady, Daka. Probably some Ive forgotten…

Were the Copenhagen players being punished yesterday? Most of those that didn’t go played, and I think only Coady of those that did go, started. This may have affected Dawson’s selection and given the chaotic week we’ve had, I don’t think we can blame him for this gutless performance….

Don’t mind them having a Christmas Party - seems inevitably reasonable to me. Its after an early ko and no midweek match. But I do think the sign shows a lack of respect to Cooper, who no-one doubts did his best, a childish over-respect for Enzo - yes a talented coach but far from perfection and most of all to the fans who have every right ti assume the players are fighting for every point - not striving to instal a manager who suits them better. I don’t think Harry Winks should have any say in who manages LCFC and it’s arrogance beyond the pale if he thinks he should...

Still looking for one - if anyone has one

Evenly matched in the first half but Forest were impressive throughout - painful though it is to admit that. They were stronger, more cohesive and man for man, more skilful. They’ve recruited brilliantly.. Another unpalatable fact: notwithstanding his goals, Wood was far more effective in the game than Vardy - who once again gave up possession over and over again. Nuno made one change at h/t - his midfield gave Winks snd Pereira less chance to play out than in the first half. We had no answer and there was no tactical response from the bench.

I’m after one if anyone has one please. On my doorstep and want to take the lad

Not sure we’re disagreeing about too much here. Thread is about domestic disillusion with domestic football. Im arguing that theres too much football generally and on Tv more specifically- so much so that domestic audiences for live domestic matches have been falling. The TV companies ate demanding more for their huge and growing investment - the football authorities are happy to give it to them as long as the wheelbarrows of cash dont stop turning up. The growth area now is international sales and the game is increasingly skewed towards that. In effect, we are playing Forest on a Friday night do some sad IT guy in Hong Kong can bet on the time of the first corner.

Of course the TV audience is growing worldwide. They’re selling more matches to more countries. But the audience per match? Do you think PL fans in Hong Kong are quivering with excitement at the prospect of Luton v Sheff Utd or Ipswich v Southampton ?

Viewing figures for football are down which is why the TV companies demand more for their money each time. The overall contract value always goes up, but the price per match is falling. Theres too much of it and too few matches carry any real jeopardy. The expansion and revamping of the Champions League is a case in point .. The World Cup is being expanded (48 teams next time) , the bigger Euros has happened, as has the incomprehensible Nations League, a larger World Club Tournament is also in the way. The summer break has virtually disappeared amid alot of pointless football… And the PL is too divorced from the Championship to create 20 competitive teams each season At one stage this summer Chelsea had NINE first team keepers…

“You can’t have clubs going up and down, and getting away with breaches scot-free on the grounds they’ve changed divisions,” What business can cope with the loss of over £100-million revenue overnight? Basically you have four months at most to re-gear the finances- basically selling everything thats not tied down. And that’s sustainability? All you can do is get to the PL and make no effort to stay there - as we saw lsstcseason

I was among those jumping up and down at some of the big decisions - esp the penalty shout - but we have to accept that what’s happened is far easier to establish on tv than in the moment at the ground. The Skipp tackle was just in front of me and my frustration is more with the rules than the ref - you win the ball cleanly without injuring your opponent and you’re punished? Why? Because theoretically you might have injured him…crazy… The rest of it was just frustration with the persistent fouling by Villa as we tried to counter and at set pieces. If the rules had been strictly applied they’d have accumulated two red cards …

Tbf Im not sure that football agents are necessarily the best judges of good character But that said there are probably a number of players for whom the club has proven to be an Old Trafford-style graveyard: Kramaric; Praet; Perez; Soumare; Soyuncu; Benkovic; Cannon; Ward; Souttar; Ghezzal; Vestergaard (almost) ; Silva; Daka; Papa Mendy, to name just a few. Some were never good enough- but some saw their careers wither away and no doubt blame the club for persuading them to join. Add in the Mahrez gentleman’s release clause, fiasco, the Silva fax farce and the shameful treatment of Kasper and its a wonder anyone ever agrees to come.

If Cacedei is any part of the deal Rudkin can have my £25 season ticket card now::::

Who were you hoping for?

who are these preferred candidates?

And did we have a points deduction at the time? Did we have no to little money to sign players at the time? And isn’t managing the richest club in the Championship, with a Premier standard squad, a more attractive opportunity for a young manager than managing a financial basket case shorn of many of its best players in the PL?

Absolutely astonishing response on here. Do you think we have the pick of managers worldwide? Do you think we have the luxury of waiting to identify a manager with a perfect playing style? We need a pragmatic manager. One who gets results. Enough results to get enough points to outweigh a points deduction and keep us up. He kept Forest up when they were such a basket case behind the scenes. Id have preferred Potter but he clearly thinks he’s too good for us and we have a lot to get sorted and we need it sorting asap to give us any sort of chance next season. Cooper isn’t/won’t be perfect but he’s as good as we were ever going to get.

Not really - but some on here do seem to overestimate the attractiveness of the job right now.

You seem to believe we can pick and choose. This is not 2020 - the chance to manage an ambitious, well organised, reasonably generously funded Premier League club. It is an opportunity to gain a little bit of kudos by leading a club, under severe financial constraints, with a points deduction and a stale, ineffective boardroom, and save it from relegation. Not many managers need that on their CV and we have to embrace those who do.

There isn’t going to be a perfect solution and people talking about needing a manager who can restore us to top eight are, not to put too fine a point on it, deluded. At best, we’ll get a pragmatic manager who can build on the Enzo foundations rather than ripping it all up and starting again. We need a manager who can work with next to no money while we get the finances straight and we need someone who has the confidence and experience to withstand the inevitable setbacks we’ll face next season. Cooper has the advantage of having been through that kind of season already, nothing will phase Moyes, Corberan - although I think he’s the best coach - would be operating at a new level. Fans fretting about formations and styles of play really are missing the point.Season 24-25 is about 40+ points. Anything else is a bonus.

It’s Chelsea and they usually get their way. And we should know better than any….completely classless and entitled club

Since the next three year period includes two £90m+ losses plus a Championship season as yet incomplete (as an accounting period) - what do we need to do to comply for the next accounting period? By my estimates we are allowed £35m x 2 + 1 x £13m = £83-million in losses. So even before this season's losses, we need to raise income by £100-million, less the transfer fee for Harvey Barnes? Anyone know if that is the case? If so we can forget signing or re-signing anyone...

Liven up a slightly stale old favourite He’s one of our own he’s one of our own but Hamza Choudhury He’s not driving home

He didn't seem out of position when he cleared three certain goals off the line ffs he seemed to me to be in the perfect position bit seemingly not good enough for you Coach Ricey