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I also hate the faff of flying as I’ve gotten older. Getting to the airport early, security, checking bags in etc. Much prefer the boat/train/buses for going away nowadays.

Fecking hell. He’ll probably be having nightmares of those scenes for the rest of his life. Must be impossible to get your head round, the surrealness of surviving with the horrific things you’ve seen.

From bbc Leicester residents believed to have been on crashed plane - British MPpublished at 17:02 17:02 The MP for Leicester East has said she understands "a handful of Leicester residents" were onboard the crashed plane. Shivani Raja tells the BBC's Rajini Vaidyanathan that her community, which has a high population of British-Gujaratis, is "really horrified and devastated waking up to such tragic news". "So far my understanding is that there are a handful of Leicester residents who were on board that flight - but I am still awaiting for official reports on that," the Conservative MP says.

Even survivors in these cases there’s a high chance they’ll still be completely brain damaged or in a lifelong coma sadly.

That’s awful. Hard to see many surviving that sadly.

It’s on YouTube if you want to watch it.

Ok I think you’ve won this thread.

Interesting debate. I often wonder whether we really have better lives than cavemen. Like of course we have better medicine, technology, live longer, live in more comfort etc. But does is actually feel better in the pit of your stomach on a day to day basis? I’m not sure. I’ve definitely pivoted from thinking the internet being a fantastic thing for society to it doing more harm than good in the past few years and AI scares me if I’m honest. I’ve definitely started to appreciate as I’ve got older that the Luddite protesters of Loughborough had a point.

I think AI can probably make better decisions in running a country’s economy than humans, but it can also take out the humanity of the decision making process and it allows humans to remove responsibility from the decision making process, which is why the concept scares me. An AI cant really take into account human life and suffering and I can easily see a future where it’s given a decision making process but that process has no thought on the consequences of how it will affect people’s livelihoods or it will brutally say, not care about thousands of people dying if this saves some money in the budget. It also has a scary amount of legal creep potentially associated with it. I can’t remember which user said it but someone here said a few months ago - they can easily see some Grenfall style disaster in which the legal defence it was the algorithm who told us to do this, not a human at fault and then adjusts the algorithm through some public outcry. That’s how we’ve ended up with loads of crappy laws - because extreme emotional examples were used to create laws or reinterpret or enforce old laws no one had cared about in decades. With AI there are much scarier consequences to all that process to me.

In the summer I agree. But it’s nice to get out of the winter and go somewhere warm. I don’t like the faff of the airport as I’ve got older

I think it’s more about when you start explicitly saying things are right/centre/left they ban people rather than the hotness of takes. You can say absolutely anything political (everything is political after all) but as soon as you start saying certain opinions are of a certain place on the political spectrum, you get banned, regardless of how fiery the post was or wasn’t It’s a strange system. All it does is cause the political chat to spill out into other threads anyway.

Careful. I got banned from the General News thread for a much less accusatory and more milquetoast post of a similar vibe saying the right constantly saying the left and centre call them stupid all the time is a trap so they create a collective enemy to go after. See it all the time that “owning the libs” is more important for many of them than improving their lives or the deaths of people in overseas conflict.

I don’t think that’s unpopular. The way the current government is going after the institutions, checks, balances and the separations of powers mirrors exactly what the likes of Bolsanaro, Putin and Orban did. I just hope they can hold like the judges managed to in Poland when they were being replaced with government plants. (The difference of course was Poland was under the ECJ and they stepped in and threatened Poland with sanctions, the US doesn’t really have so many supra-national institutions above it to protect against democratic erosion.

Caption: “Real Brexit has never been tried.”

I’ve just found out that that old Radiohead music video from the 90s for the song Just where everyone lies on the floor has been solved. Apparently he says “I’ve seen a way” and all the stuff he says is about Jesus and bible quotes and the video was about following false prophets.

Albrighton???

I was never a fan of Corbyn’s foreign policy and his ideas to trash Trident especially look dumb now given the world we’re in. But he was still a clearly miles better choice than Boris and his brutal hard Brexit were in 2019. Corbyn I think campaigned on essentially having a similar relationship to the EU as Norway did.

I guess he would’ve been a citizen of the Roman Empire if citizenship existed back then, so probably would’ve been a modern day citizen of Turkey or something.

I’m sorry - what are you trying to suggest here? That Austria got votes for political reasons? Because they have a right wing populist government or something?

And Austria wasn’t? It’s Isreal who got all the political votes not Austria. Austria beat it comfortably in the judge votes

Take politics out of it and there’s absolutely no way Isreal is top half

Get in Italy

UK getting decent points so far

France song was good

Denmark is decent